photographing coppers could get you 10 years in jail soon if were not careful
brummie | 04.11.2008 08:29 | SOCPA | Animal Liberation | Other Press | Social Struggles | Birmingham
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"ack in April of this year I came across a police stop and search in Trafalgar Square. This was the day before the Olympic Torch was due to arrive in London. I took a few frames of what was going on and then I was stopped by a police officer who made it very clear he knew who I was but he still wanted to take a look at my UK Press Card. He said, “I want your card number for my records”, so he writes down my press card number in his notebook and I take a picture. This was not a new experience for me. But is working on Britain’s streets just about to get harder?
On Thursday 20th November the Home Office will publish new operational guidance to the police on the use of stop and search powers under section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 of those taking photographs in public places.
The draft guidance says,
“There is no power under the Terrorism Act 2000 to prohibit people from taking photographs or digital images in an area where an authority under section 44 is in place.
“If officers reasonably suspect that photographs are being taken as part of hostile terrorist reconnaissance then they should act appropriately, by searching the person under Section 43 of the Terrorism Act or making an arrest. Cameras, film and memory cards may be seized as evidence but there is no power for images to be deleted or film to be destroyed by officers.”
If section 43 with its powers to seize “cameras, film and memory cards” is misused in the same way that section 44 has been misused by the police then just think of the chilling effect this will have on photography in a public place.
And then we have Clause 83 of the new Counter-Terrorism Bill 2008.
“(1) A person commits an offence who–
“(a) elicits or attempts to elicit information about an individual who is or has been–
“(i) a member of Her Majesty’s forces,
(ii) a member of any of the intelligence services, or
(iii) a constable,”
A “Constable” is the legal term for all police officers. “Elicits or attempts to elicit information” does that include taking a photograph and publishing it?
“(b) publishes or communicates any such information.”
Yep. And you can get 10 years for this one! And I all most forgot, every police force in Britain is going to be equipped with mobile fingerprint scanners which will allow the police to carry out identity checks on people on the street. I think I’m going to need to get myself a desk job!"
brummie
Additions
freedom to film
04.11.2008 10:26
So, I propose we snappers and camera people get together and go on collective photography missions, to highlight the issue of civil liberty, press freedom and increasing harassment by police. So we turn up en masse (hopefully) at the US embassy, or MI5 or wherever, and challenge their oppressive attitudes.
Ideally, it would be good to get an organisation or two behind the campaign, or join an existing campaign. NUJ? Space Hijackers? Any ideas?
William Greaves
Correction
04.11.2008 12:42
You can read the progress of the bill here:
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2007-08/counterterrorism.html
Fitwatch could be in trouble for publishing information, but they would have a legal defense against the Act.
Offences relating to information about members of armed forces etc
(1)
After section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (collection of information) insert—
“58A
Eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members
of armed forces etc
(1)
A person commits an offence who—
(a)
elicits or attempts to elicit information about an individual who
is or has been—
(i)
a member of Her Majesty’s forces,
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Counter-Terrorism Bill
Part 6 — Miscellaneous
(ii)
a member of any of the intelligence services, or
(iii)
a constable,
which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or
preparing an act of terrorism, or
(b)
publishes or communicates any such information.
5
(2)
It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section
to prove that they had a reasonable excuse for their action.
(3)
A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
(a)
on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding 10 years or to a fine, or to both;
(b)
on summary conviction—
(i)
in England and Wales or Scotland, to imprisonment for
a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not
exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both;
(ii)
in Northern Ireland, to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the
statutory maximum, or to both.
(4)
In this section “the intelligence services” means the Security Service, the
Secret Intelligence Service and GCHQ (within the meaning of section 3
of the Intelligence Services Act 1994 (c. 13)).
(5)
Schedule 8A to this Act contains supplementary provisions relating to
the offence under this section.”.
(2)
In the application of section 58A in England and Wales in relation to an offence
committed before the commencement of section 154(1) of the Criminal Justice
Act 2003 (c. 44) the reference in subsection (3)(b)(i) to 12 months is to be read as
a reference to 6 months.
(3)
In section 118 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (c. 11) (defences), in subsection (5)(a)
after “58,” insert “58A,”.
(4)
After Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 insert the Schedule set out in
Schedule 7 to this Act.
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Comments
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Define "information"
04.11.2008 10:32
If it's really that vaguely worded, you could commit an offence by asking a cop for their name.
MonkeyBot
One Medicine
04.11.2008 12:55
anon
Re: Define "information"
04.11.2008 17:51
They don't have one.
ACAB
This is what you expect in Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe
06.11.2008 17:00
All of Farnborough and Aldershot has been declared a zone under the ant-terror laws where police can stop and search under the anti-terror laws without having to give any further explanation.
Plane spotters outside Farnborough Airport are being stopped and searched. Some plane spotters claim to have been stopped and searched as often as seven times by the same officer.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/10/411431.html?c=on
Many local authorities are now using anti-terror laws to use hidden cameras to spot householders putting their wheelie bins out on the wrong day. The gathered evidence will be used to issue on-the-spot fines.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082225/March-dustbin-Stasi-Half-councils-use-anti-terror-laws-watch-people-putting-rubbish-wrong-day.html
The Rotten Borough of Rushmoor is using hidden cameras outside all 46 schools in the borough to catch parents dropping their kids off outside the school gates, and then use the gathered evidence to issue on the spot fines.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/10/412020.html
A 15-year-old schoolboy caught taking photos of Wimbledon Station was detained and held as a terror subject by three PCSOs. 15-year-old Fabian Sabbara was forced sign a form titled 'Stop-and-Search Terrorism Act' under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act or face arrest.
PCSOs do not have the power of arrest or to detain or to stop and search.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081995/Schoolboy-15-held-terror-suspect-taking-photos-railway-station-GCSE-project.html
It will be a requirement to produce a passport to buy a pay-as-you-go mobile phone.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/10/411302.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece
A huge data base is being created to record all internet and telephone activity.
Keith
and they can target service providers too...
07.11.2008 10:22
fitwatcher
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War criminal Brown is a lot worse than Mugabe
20.11.2008 01:40
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