You people are left overs from the cold war! Wake up communism died in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down and life under communism was hell in eastern Europe!

It as a really funky party. Pity the Socialist Wankers Party woke up from the dead and is now trying to ride the horse of Discontent against Capitalism in Crisis!
(the other sad spoof is Conservative, who does not realise he was already dead before the Wall came down and that communism, err, never existed except in some tribal societies: in the URSS etc. they never had communism, only state capitalism).

Sadly for you sad morons who hate wealth and can't be bothered to work yourselfs instead claiming state benefits and scrounging off the rest of us workers, capitalism is not dead and never will be! Get a job!

who sponge billions off everyone& yep sadly capitalism isnt dead its become more centralised & hence more lay offs etc including jobs in the city. The regulars I know are mechanics,bus drivers, energy sector workers,railmen,many nurses,ambulance staff, professional musicians, some spend time on the dole like most people in precarious low paid jobs. Of course if it helps you sleep at night to think we are all on the dole, your obviously so well informed, wonder why the economy is in the state its in looked after by you lot, youve had so much charlie you believe your own BS.
Chase Morgan & co have made a killing just like they did in the 1930's, they predicted the crash & in fact their friends like Greenspan made it happen with Sub prime.
We need a cooperative economy now not a command or capitalist economy in which everyone has a fair gauranteed stake instead of a often rigged lottery or a dictatorship.
All the stimulus we need to boost us out of recession is in the fight against climate change, we already have the tech, the knowhow & the will. Unless you personally want to die in the frontline of another "boosting"war or nuclear explosion I'd think about it.

To Worker: It's more the greed and inequality that the pursuit and acquisition of financial wealth often give rise to rather than wealth itself that is disliked.

...what would be the difference between the two? Has any one ever acquired wealth without stealing it from others in one form or another? And why do you bother answering to a 'worker' who is happy to be exploited yet calls us morons? (without considering many of us do have jobs...)

Amongst the nearly all young people waving SWP placards, there was an impressive spirit and upness for doing something. I'm told it was similar on October 10th (though I wasn't there then).

The Socialist Wankers Party won't be able to control this lot. Passing through most of them, Iike many others before, I reckon. Due to its constant recruiting, the SWP is where many people's political development starts, but in the case of anyone sensible it doesn't stay there for long. Did you notice they weren't selling papers? Well, one guy of 40-50ish was but nobody else I could see. They did have their trademark shookly pasting table out at the beginning, but soon had to pack it up when things got lively.

Sure, there was tactical naivety in all the running around and there is certainly political naivety, too. But that'll change. Most of them will see the irrelevance of the SWP before long. Let's remember to talk and discuss things with this lot, not condemn them as party hacks. Let's encourage them to think for themselves and refuse to be led by anyone. There are open minds and rebellious spirits there.

there is really nothing to be gained by laying into young SWP recruits - they've generally joined the first group they came across which acted like it was interested in them and their opinions.

Why the continued assumption that protestors do not have jobs?
Why the continued assumption that retail therapy is good for the planet?
Why the continued assumption that capitalists love humanity?
Why the continued assumption that street theatre is threatening?
Why the continued assumption that protesting is harmful?
Why the continued assumption that Communism equals Stalinism?
Why the continued assumption that a 9 to 5 job is good for the soul?
Why the continued assumption that this is what we have to leave for our children?

Worker, was your reference to state benefits ironic?

To expand on De's last point and for your political education, Conservative, communism didn't die in 1989. What collapsed then was the leninist brand of state capitalism. I think that's more accurate than to call it "stalinist", though Stalin developed it and strengthened its grip. They described their system as "socialist" (as in Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) but they were a bunch of lying shits and their system was no more socialist than the "national socialism" of Hitler. It wasn't even soviet, either, but leave that aside for now.

What the leninists, from old goatee-beard himself down to Gorbachov, DIDN'T claim was that their system was communist. They said communism was a future aspiration and following the path of "socialism" (so called) would, by an inexorable historical process, lead to the achievement of communism one fine day. That process would involve the "withering away of the state" before communism's happy dawn could occur.

Well, yeah, the existence of a state and communism are certainly incompatible, but did you notice any "withering away" of the state going on in Russia, Ukraine, Bylorus, etc? Is the Cuban state "withering away" at the moment? All that withered away was the lives of dissidents in the leadership, other political opponents, ethnic minorities, and millions who starved in the course of forced, bureaucratic, "collectivisation". FFS how there be a collective except by voluntary association and autonomy?

Communism was much better envisaged by Gerrard Winstanley in the middle of the 17th century than by any of the squabbling idealogues of 2-300 years later; "The earth must be a common treasury for all". How to get there and whether we can before capitalism destroys us all is a different matter, but please don't give us this "communism collapsed in 1989" stuff. It's never been attempted.