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Cl@ss W@r | 30.09.2008 19:27

Cl@ss W@r News

This is announcing the launch of a Cl@ss W@r grouping comprised of some individuals who were part of Cl@ss W@r in its 1980’s glory days and who want to retain the best parts of that politics.

More will follow.

Cl@ss W@r News

This is announcing the launch of a Cl@ss W@r grouping which is going to rival the boring Class War Federation.

This is comprised of some individuals who were part of Cl@ss W@r in its 1980’s glory days and who want to retain the best parts of that politics.

More will follow.

Cl@ss W@r
- e-mail: classwarAtlive.co.uk

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underclassrising.net

30.09.2008 19:36

As most of you folk know, we whole heartedly support ANARCHISM in its many forms but The Anarchist Bookfair (bun fight) is a fucking disgrace, an insult to the organisers and an insult to the name of ANARCHISM.

This is not a direct attack on the many good folk involved with ANARCHISM and the event itself in theory should be an example of anarchists having a good time and to fly the Black Flag with pride, instead we are treat to university educated webels who can’t hold their beer, lifestyle anarchists who let their dogs off their ropes (instead they should hang themselves with said rope) and quite literally acting no better than the rest of The Middle Class.

So, is this what ANARCHISM has become in the UK? The good Working Class living in the area had to endure the kind of behaviour we’d have come to expect and see from crusties and lifestyle anarchists at the annual bookfair has all the normal STEREOTYPES in full swing. So all those working class families are supposed to see ANARCHISM as the saviour of humanity against the filth and habits of The Middle Class controlling and disrespecting our lives and all we hold sacred. What they got instead was a handful of fuckwits who despite being small in numbers caused maximum stupidity.

If this story had been about a bunch of working class holding an event and doing the same, the Middle Class would have all been up in arms about it, but this is done under the name of ANARCHISM and it’s a fucking crying shame.

Again we don’t hold the organisers responsible and we still support The Anarchist Bookfair but serious questions need to be asked because if ANYONE can honestly say they were proud of this weekend they can fuck off to the sewer next year because that’s all they are fit for and if anyone is under the illusion that ANARCHISM is a driving force here in the UK then you are sadly mistaken because those involved are as bad as The scum they name “The Working Class”, they turn what could (or still can be?) a great anarchist event into a farce. Does anyone really expect anything positive to come out of this? Bollocks!

Lets start to make THE MIDDLE CLASS HISTORY..

“underclassrising is a modern day concept whose purpose is to, educate, lead and direct today’s teenage working class energy, anger and hate in a positive direction. Through health, fitness and challenging pursuits, underclassrising will clear your mind, body and soul, and prepare you for any challenge. underclassrising will lead you away from drugs, gangs, poisonous TV propaganda and all the sickness now destroying your lives and future. underclassrising will equip you with all the tools necessary to achieve this. Only through underclassrising will you be able to fight back and survive in today’s confusing world”.

underclassrising.net

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This year, there is an alternative...

30.09.2008 19:57


If you've got enough books already, and think an attempt by neo-nazis to 'take back the streets' is worth confronting, we'll see you there.

Antifascist

???

30.09.2008 19:59

Students back then?

???

underclassrising.net

30.09.2008 20:14

Oh dear me some people have had a humor by pass, seems to be one group of thugs fighting another please do tell in simple patronising words so us working class can understand what is the difference between your thuggery and that of the far right,

You talk about your revolution, well, that's fine
But what are you going to be doing come the time?
Are you going to be the big man with the tommy-gun?
Will you talk of freedom when the blood begins to run?
Well, freedom has no value if violence is the price
Don't want your revolution, I want anarchy and peace

You talk of overthrowing power with violence as your tool
You speak of liberation and when the people rule
Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me

But what about those people who don't want your new restrictions?
Those that disagree with you and have their own convictions?
You say they've got it wrong because they don't agree with you
So when the revolution comes you'll have to run them through
You say that revolution will bring freedom for us all
Well freedom just ain't freedom when your back's against the wall

You talk of overthrowing power with violence as your tool
You speak of liberation and when the people rule
Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me

Will you indoctrinate the masses to serve your new regime?
And simply do away with those whose views are too extreme?
Transportation details could be left to British rail
Where Zyklon B succeeded, North Sea Gas will fail
It's just the same old story of man destroying man
We've got to look for other answers to the problems of this land

You talk of overthrowing power with violence as your tool
You speak of liberation and when the people rule
Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me

Vive la revolution, people of the world unite
Stand up men of courage, it's your job to fight

It all seems very easy, this revolution game
But when you start to really play things won't be quite the same
Your intellectual theories on how it's going to be
Don't seem to take into account the true reality
Cos the truth of what you're saying, as you sit there sipping beer
Is pain and death and suffering, but of course you wouldn't care

You're far too much of a man for that, if Mao did it so can you
What's the freedom of us all against the suffering of the few?
That's the kind of self-deception that killed ten million jews
Just the same false logic that all power-mongers use
So don't think you can fool me with your political tricks
Political right, political left, you can keep your politics
Government is government and all government is force
Left or right, right or left, it takes the same old course
Oppression and restriction, regulation, rule and law
The seizure of that power is all your revolution's for
You romanticise your heroes, quote from Marx and Mao
Well their ideas of freedom are just oppression now

Nothing changed for all the death, that their ideas created
It's just the same fascistic games, but the rules aren't clearly stated
Nothing's really different cos all government's the same
They can call it freedom, but slavery is the game

Nothing changed for all the death, that their ideas created
It's just the same fascistic games, but the rules aren't clearly stated
Nothing's really different cos all government's the same
They can call it freedom, but slavery is the game
There's nothing that you offer but a dream of last years hero
The truth of revolution, brother................... is year zero

CRASS

underclassrising.net

I wasn't a student

30.09.2008 20:41

Was thinking of going to the @ Book Fair myself but I'd imagine that the Vegan Fair was more meaningful, relevant, radical, more of a point even more anarchist etc, etc but I couldn't make that, family! I think anyone of an anarchist persuasion should black up, mask up and get themselves down or up to Leeds on the 18th and show that we are alive and well and will not let nazi scum go unchallenged on our streets. Unless someone can tell me otherwise?
And oh I nearly forgot, I wasn't a student back in the 80's. Most of us weren't. Maybe it's just impossible for people to believe these days how large the anarchist (wrong to label people I know but it's term of endearment) movement was. In fact the lot I was with, well we hated students. but then we were divided into those that had jobs and those that wouldn't have jobs. See you on the 18th and what we really need is an Antifa fundraiser somewhere on the Leeds area for that night. Let's all get active again and bollocks to all the talking.

D@ddy

check out this new radical site that im about to make on dreamweaver on my ....

30.09.2008 20:53


own, that will change the face of politics in the world....

establised UK grassroots activist scene stand back, here comes...

www.youndreckoneractivistdiscoversanarchismandgetsanerectionrisinginunderpants.com

youre a NOB HE@D

Nothing new

30.09.2008 20:57

So underclass.net are just a bunch of whiny middle-class cunts? Certainly sounds like it.

Uncle Albert

CR@SS

30.09.2008 22:09

"You talk about your revolution well that's fine" probably my first anarcho record of any real meaning. Made me doubt myself as a 13 year old kid as to what was right and wrong but then getting 'involved' with real people not middle-class commune dwelling rockstars made me realised that you can't be passive with Old Bill, Nazis, Teachers, Parenets, Fox-Hunters, Hunt-Heavies, Stockbrokers, Vivisectionists, Tories, Labour et al and any other cunts. Well that song may have had a point back in the late 70's early 80's when people had an issue with NF v SWP but it's not fucking relevant now and nor was it when CRASS were still going '83,84 time when the NF were off streets and the Stop City demo's were showing where you can stuff your fluffy anarcho pacifist shit where the sun don't shine. @ // E

D@ddy

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The wanker's version of the RWB

30.09.2008 22:20

It seems to me that The Anarchist Bookfair is the middle-class version of the Red, White and Blue Festival, it's just that the BNP have showers on their camp site.

Do you have books by Mikhail Bakunin? I'll bet it sticks in your guts that if he was alive today and lived in the UK he'd probably be in the BPP!

"…one exploiting sect, one people of leeches, one single devouring parasite closely and intimately bound together not only across national boundaries, but also across all divergences of political opinion…[Jews have] that mercantile passion which constitutes one of the principle traits of their national character."
Mikhail Bakunin

Concerned of Wigan

What problems were there at last year's Anarchist Bookfair

30.09.2008 23:16

question for underclassrising.net:

Maybe I'm out of touch, but what were the problems caused to local residents at previous Anarchist Bookfairs?

confused

Class War were great in the 80s

30.09.2008 23:27

I agree that Class War were great in the 80s - they didn't take themselves too seriously and knew how to have a laugh. The paper went downhill when it started having too many waffly and dull "political" articles in it.

I look forward to seeing this new enterprise.

hospitalised copper

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I was only joking

01.10.2008 07:09

I am having a bit of a breakown lately, ignore the shite I post on newswires and forums.

It's because I havent any friends and dont get out a lot.

Dr.Trevor Bark

Please remove

01.10.2008 07:10

This is clearly a fascist attempt at humour.

Zanda

Doubtful

01.10.2008 08:23

If the comment above on the nature of militant antifascism ('one bunch of thugs fighting another'), and the long quote from a Crass song, are anything to go by, I very much doubt this has anything to do with anyone who was involved with CW in the 80's.

Antifascist

This doesn't smell right to me

01.10.2008 08:37

This this perhaps a fascist honey-trap?

??

Life of.................

01.10.2008 09:06

We aren't the class war federation, we are cl@ss w@r! Bastards, splitters, wankers!

.........Brian

underclassrising.net

01.10.2008 09:54

fuck me sideways lifestyle anarchist and others this dose smell right, a fascist honey trap here are the words on our blog  http://projectsheffield.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/underclassrisingnet/ it is what we name as situationist

* The ideas of Situationist International, an international political and artistic movement of the 1960s
* Situationism (psychology), which holds that personality is more influenced by external factors than by internal traits or motivations
* In Situational ethics, the idea in ethics that the morality of an act is a function of the state of the system when it occurs

Much the same as crass

Crass were an English anarchist punk rock band, formed in 1977[1][2][3][4] which promoted anarchism as a political ideology, way of living, and as a resistance movement. Crass popularized the seminal anarcho-punk movement and advocated direct action, animal rights, and environmentalism. The band used the "Do It Yourself" approach to produce sound collages, graphics, albums and films. Crass also criticized and attempted to subvert the dominant culture with messages promoting feminism, anti-racism, anti-war, and anti-globalization.

Crass practiced their "direct action" philosophy by spray-painting stencilled graffiti messages around the London Underground system and on advertising billboards, coordinating squats, and organising political action. The band also expressed its ideals by dressing in black, military surplus-style clothing and using a stage backdrop which amalgamated several "icons of authority" (including the Christian Cross, the swastika and the Union Flag) and an Ouroboros.

The band were critical of the punk movement itself, as well as wider youth culture in general. Crass promoted the type of anarcho-pacifism that eventually became more common in the punk music scene (see anarcho-punk[5]). They are also considered part of the art punk genre[6], due to their use of tape collages, spoken word releases, poetry and improvisation.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRASS

people get all worked up over non fascist, but more than happy to let them post here (freedom of speech) and support the thuggery of so called anarchist, all this is doing is serving the interest of the far right, why bloody revolutions why this is as relevant as it was when it was written.

you do not defeat fascism with fascism, you defeat it by engaging with the working class, and showing them that anarchism is not another form of government but true freedom.

underclassrising.net

Sheffield?

01.10.2008 14:49

So is this Mozaz or some other half-wit with a biblical name?

Crass were the antithesis of everything Class War stood for. You're not 'Class War' so why don't you get your own name instead of trying to steal somebody else's clothes?

Not so green

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Wankers

01.10.2008 16:21

[name removed] - is a toffs son whose dad works in the city at a merchant bank, with a big house in Hampstead, whose inheritance will dwarf the GDP of a Third World Republic - the Class War Federation are a joke.

Cl@ss W@r

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What bollocks you talk..and write.

01.10.2008 17:33

Personally I couldnt give a toss what someones parents are, nobody is responsible for them.

You're a fat phd doctor who has a chip on his shoulder for being thrown ought of Class War, you hate CW so much you cant stop fantasizing about them!

You're writings are utter bollocks and an absolute joke.

Why dont you concentrate on you're family and stop trying to be some wadical guru.

The jokes on you mate.

Truth and Justice

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cheers trev

01.10.2008 18:12

you once told me, trev, how hard you'd tried to help me when i was drinking to excess. it was bollocks then and it's bollocks now. any vestigial respect or sympathy for your predicament i had for you has unsurprisingly vanished after your post a couple above. it's as accurate as might be expected from you, which is to say not at all.

seyton

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No rich kids here

01.10.2008 18:37

If you do not understand that inheritance could affect politics then you are a bigger fool than you currently think.

No rich kids here

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Stupid Practice

01.10.2008 18:42

This is what happens when you create aggravation rather than trying to solve problems through discussion and debate. The public bickering is laughable.

Stupid practice

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Im also a grass..

01.10.2008 19:00

but enough about me...

Fat Doctor On Largactil

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Drill it mate.

01.10.2008 19:04

There aint no public bickering, just a jolly overweight idiot doing the rounds of forums trying to sell his comics.Listen to the fella above Trevor n think of the kids before it all goes pear shapped!

Stupid Practices Dentist

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Stupid CWF

01.10.2008 19:53

Seyton the grass named names first - you only have too look above...

Grasses grasses everywhere

This idiot...

02.10.2008 07:29

...was expelled from Class War around 3 years ago.

As you can see he never quite got over it and it's become an obssesion.

Doc Martin

no future?

03.10.2008 06:13

comrades and friends,

class war was great, but great at what? did it actually make any political change? can it? frankly speaking, we may all like punk rock, but punk rock lyrics are not really politics, and i do not think the british state are quaking in their boots over a rock band. direct action may be fun, but simply blocking the road or throwing a brick at a copper are nothing. i remember before september 11 we all liked the wombles and the black bloc, and thought they were radical, but after september 11 it suddenly seemed very tame. my question is simply this: do you anarchists, class war or whatever, actually have any idea of what you are trying to do? IF you do not, perhaps you should sit down and think of something, because you are just wasting precious time. many people have spent a long time with various types of anarchist groups, but after so many years, what has been achieved? nothing, it seems to me.

kropotkin

Kropotkin my arse

09.10.2008 07:46

Brian - your comment is for wallies. Kropotkin is also talking out of his arse. Cl@ss War was great at encouraging people to fight back, to encourage class consciousness and action. It still could be. The difference today is that the Class War federation does nothing - it has no politics. A bonfire in London on Nov 5th (enjoyable a social event it maybe and i am encouraging people to go and have a chat to Ian who I suspect will be there) does not count as politics.

Cl@ss W@r

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