do you really take this stuff seriously? That all the bad humans have to be initiated first?

Like get real. Do you look at a fluffy cuddly kitten with the same tolerance, interspecial love & lack of speciesism as you look at a cockroach?

Did you go to Molesworth street Dublin yourself & put your head in a noose and let a bunch of middle-aged men try and scare the shit of you in a process of initiation which pales into utter significance against a first trip on LSD, Ketamine, psilocybin or DMT?

or did you not go and photograph that room on the second floor yourself?
Did you just download the images from some conspiracy site?
Perhaps you just enjoyed the regular open days & took the photos with your digital camera.
What logo is on your digital camera Tony?

On the other side of reality : Have you ever gone on a trip?

Perhaps not, many people heed the warnings & stay far away from such experiences. Proper order too. We can't have a multitude of people seeing through kiddies telly & seeing the truth - can we?

Well, let me initiate you right now into the secret mysteries.

It really worked like this. Egypt was sexy. All things draped in gauze with a bit of bling and incense were well sexy back in the 19th century. & then as now a bit of "hidden knowledge" worked wonders on the impress your mates front. Honestly. Illuminati masonic conspiracies are pants. You seemed to overlook that atheism and encyclopedias as well as decent pornography libraries were the priniciple reserves of those old men and bro's whose respectful nay worshipful photos you think are so creepy.

I am really surprised @ you Tony.

tsk tsk tsk.

I lick my reptile eye at you.

I mean you don't need weird secret cameras, the freemasons are quite open
in erseland- anyone can go have a peek.

Jayzhus!

Look it's Stewart Home outside MI6 Vauxhall Cross and aGain outside the Grand Lodge; so, just what am i trying to Get at here. Well an editor of indymeda scotland who Goes under the name of sbunny, (a well known critic of tony GoslinG theory on freemasons, bilderberg.org (see tony gosling traveller of the far right) ) desiGn's and mantians the website for stewarthomesociety.org incidently where i Got the attached pictures from, how stranGe. Sbunny also made a website about the Rosyln Chapel, my what a strange facisnation we have with all things masonic. The same Sbunny whom orGanised the resistance aGainst the G8 in scotland, called dissent.org. hmm... ok, the G8 rules the world, BUT THE BILDERBERGERS PAINT THE BACKDROP, GOT IT.

We know who the real self style facists are in this world don't we?

The Freemasons always claim to be holier than thou by saying much of their time is spent on "charitable works". What they don't admit is that the charity they support is themselves.

Freemasonry is evil through and through. My own view is that the Pagans were far more honourable than this lot.

Although they claim to be akin to a religious organisation, I know for a fact they are involved in all manner of crimes and corruption. They will murder those who oppose them, or even speak out against them.

In the UK most of the government bodies, Police and Local Councils are stuffed full of "The Brothers" all doing their bit to help each other and cover up their corrupt practices.

Politicians are also likely to be Freemasons, Tories in particular. It is interesting how Blair, a big mason, got such an easy ride despite his war crimes. Brown, who is not a mason, is being hounded by the press and others, yet he is far more honourable a man. Is he being targetted by "The Brothers" as he is not one of them?

By far the worst outrage are the Freemasons who engage in paedophilia. This seems to be a predeliction of masons, prominent ones especially. Look at the abuse in the North wales care homes. In the main, this was carried out by masons in politics and Police. The latest cases in Jersey have also revealed the extent of masonic involvement in child abuse there and on a massive scale. The horrifying details indicate that children were murdered too. People who are now trying to achieve justice for the victims are meeting with huge obstructions in the political, Police and judicial systems. The masons are trying to cover it up.

Freemasonry should be proscribed and the Lodges disposed of in the most suitable manner, total destruction.

Make no mistake, these are no kindly do gooders, they are evil incarnate.

So what you are saying is that a group of people whose social club was derived from/modelled on what was essentially a trade guild for stone masons happen to like pictures and models of amazing feats of human construction.

They also have religious symbols from all kinds of religions as your pictures show - which if anything supports their claim to have no religious demands other than that you must believe in *a* god to join.

The people who run the world love nuts like you. You spend all your time telling people about the Masons, Bildebergers and Illuminati running the world in secret and so no-one pays attention to the simple truth - the power in this world is concentrated amongst a small group of people who not want to relinquish it and will use it to further their own interests over everyone elses.

The fact that they like to dress up in aprons at the weekend is of no more relevance than if they were in the scouts.

Or rather I was one of the ilk who decorated and used the space in the photos provided by Tony which he sugests prove an Egyptian cult. Odd, I see only one sphinx and loads of Christian crosses, a bunch of old bods, a bunch of orphans, and several seals of the royal arch. (the triple T inside the star of David) for those of who want inside knowledge.

Not only was I one, but I took it really quite seriously, going through the º all the way to 33 at which level you can talk qabala with the bestest of rabbis, make your own golem and would be able to decypher the missing akadian relics stolen from the Baghdad musuem less than 48 hours into invasion. For some reason my peers and contemporaries thought I had a worrying "Alastair Crowley" thing going down. Some catholic workers still spread rumours about me because of it.

& then for reasons to do with a cute girl from Sardinia with tattoos and piercings, a kicking sound system, really good drugs and so on so forth - I left off the circumambulation and set dinners & hung up my apron & kid white gloves. I had reached the age of 23.

Oh but it's not so easy to get out of.
is it Tony?
Once a 33º expert in all things creepy and hoody - always a 33º expert in all things hoody and creepy.

& you've tricked me into exposing myself.
Maybe you're in Opus Dei +

But really before we go on looking at the dark sinister rites of Scotland - Let's ask Tony a question.

Why do you risk accusations of anti-semitism by attacking not only the English craft but other equivalent orders & also in so doing choose to ignore the contribution to atheism, socialism, anarchosyndicalism, encyclopedias and bilingual dictionaries by the masons of the European tradition who schismed from the York & Scots rites in 1877?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Freemasonry#The_great_schism_of_1877

Do you really think the model suggested by Weishaupt for a infilitrationist "illuminati" to work through global masonry before the schism and thus cause feminism and global anarchism has served you so badly?

Or is it the light thing that worries you? You go all sweaty every month when the Moon is dark but Venus is still there tracing her perfect cycle star in the night and morning skies. Some people shouldn't do drugs. it's true. Some people should do drugs - it's even more true. & really frankly and truely the worst place to start a global control conspiracy would be where you insist on looking. It might have worked in Weishaupt's time or up to the mid 19th century. But right now you want to find a global control thing - you look in binary.

This forthcoming Fortean Times (issue 239) will do a special though on the history of the "illuminati conspiracy".  http://forteantimes.com/front_website/themag/

MonkeyBot 500 says:

The people who run the world love nuts like you. You spend all your time telling people about the Masons, Bildebergers and Illuminati running the world in secret...' And then says: '...and so no-one pays attention to the simple truth - the power in this world is concentrated amongst a small group of people who not want to relinquish it and will use it to further their own interests over everyone elses.' ???

So, this small group of people are the Masons, Bildebergers and Illuminati.

If not, how does MonkeyBot explain how it is that this small group of people manages to keep their privilege and fool everyone else?

Why does George Washington on his statue explain himself as: 'Mason, and first President of the United States'? How come Masonry was openly associated with the American Independence movement?

Marxism just fails to explain why those who own the means of production manage to control politicians who claim to represent the people? I haven't come across any Marxist explanation that demonstrates the links between a particular leading politician and 'those who own the means of production'. What Marxists need to do is name names, identify meetings and expose agreements among the ruling class.

But they should start with naming who the leading members of the ruling class are. Who are they? Name names. The reality is British Marxists are clueless about who the leading members are.

As for saying that Tony is a fascist. Which fascist party is Tony a member of? Which leading fascists does he associate with?

I would suggest anyone who does should identify him or herself with their own address so that Tony can take you to court.

I guess most people, political or otherwise, would regard MonkeyBot's assertion that Masons are unimportant as absurd. They would be interesting in Masonic influence in the Cabinet and would not regard a conspiracy among Masons as either ridiculous or unimportant.

feminism and global anarchy?

Sounds like disinformation to me, either deliberate or more likely accidental seeing as the poster reckons he made 33rd degree by the age of 23. How come he's not hanging in a tidal river yet?

I think the grand plan was more like global socialism based on plato's republic and orwell's 1984 with illuminated, enlightened 'Guardians' ruling an 'equal' human race from behind the scenes.

Weishaupt's own words tell us this.

For more info on the bavarian sect of the illuminati, how they infiltrated the masons, their discovery, the schism, the reintroduction of the order by cecil rhodes just after the schism and other conspiritorial stuff search for the torrent 'capitalist conspiracy' by G. Edward Griffin. It's on Vuze.

For further illumination on a daily basis take a look around you as to how society is playing out- cctv, insidious economic and social control techniques. DFo you think the sub-prime fiasco was an accident. Do you really believe that those involved in the black magic occult con trick of high finance, those who have the money, those that write the rules concerning the buying and selling of mortgages did not know this would happen? Take a look at previous depressions and recessions- who profited at the end? And who will profit this time?

There is more to the occult than the qabbalah, just as more can be revealed than by simply taking drugs. The evidence is all around- you just have to look