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Zimbabwe: Western Lies and Hypocrisy

brian | 23.07.2008 02:40 | Social Struggles | World


How Do We Know What We 'Know'?

In recent times I have been reasoning with many people about what is happening in Zimbabwe, and a continual theme that emerged is just how much people rely on mainstream media for views about Zimbabwe and the wider world. Many persons admitted that BBC and/or CNN were the main sources that 'informed' their perspective on Zimbabwe. However, the Western Media, especially BBC and CNN, are openly on a mission to demonize President Robert Mugabe and bring about regime change in Zimbabwe. So it is like asking a person's sworn enemy for opinions/news about that person. Very unbalanced stories will be told. It is clear that the Western international media is complicit in fabricating/distorting stories to justify intervention in the affairs of sovereign nations. And that is one of the main points that is connected to understanding the Zimbabwe issue. Local media around the world, especially where I am from in the Caribbean, simply reproduce coverage by the dominant international media. Even when local commentators try to analyze the events they end up giving a very distorted picture mainly because they assume that the news they get from Western sources are true.

Western Lies and Hypocrisy
How Zimbabwe Exposes Mainstream Media
By Ras Tyehimba
July 20, 2008

The recent Zimbabwe elections saw an escalation of attempts by external forces to intervene in the sovereign and independent nation. Given the complex circumstances surrounding Zimbabwe, for the millions of people in the Caribbean and around the world, it has been difficult to get balanced views of what is going on; ever since the Zimbabwe government, under President Robert Mugabe, started to reclaim land that was stolen during British Colonial rule. Since the start of this land reclamation exercise to now, the events in Zimbabwe have exposed, firstly, how complicit international media are in the imperial agenda of the United States and Britain and secondly, how irresponsible and lazy the local mainstream media are. Local media seem quite content to jump on the anti-Mugabe bandwagon as they casually parrot news from international media sources such as BBC, CNN, Reuters and Associated Press.

How Do We Know What We 'Know'?

In recent times I have been reasoning with many people about what is happening in Zimbabwe, and a continual theme that emerged is just how much people rely on mainstream media for views about Zimbabwe and the wider world. Many persons admitted that BBC and/or CNN were the main sources that 'informed' their perspective on Zimbabwe. However, the Western Media, especially BBC and CNN, are openly on a mission to demonize President Robert Mugabe and bring about regime change in Zimbabwe. So it is like asking a person's sworn enemy for opinions/news about that person. Very unbalanced stories will be told. It is clear that the Western international media is complicit in fabricating/distorting stories to justify intervention in the affairs of sovereign nations. And that is one of the main points that is connected to understanding the Zimbabwe issue. Local media around the world, especially where I am from in the Caribbean, simply reproduce coverage by the dominant international media. Even when local commentators try to analyze the events they end up giving a very distorted picture mainly because they assume that the news they get from Western sources are true.

What is the importance of Zimbabwe some may ask? The misinformation surrounding Zimbabwe is relevant for many reasons. Firstly, for all people, misinformation hampers the ability to make proper assessments and subsequent decisions. Secondly, people of the 'Third World' are subjected to the same racism and imperial arrogance being directed towards Zimbabwe. Thirdly, it shows that because of the dominance and supposed credibility of Western media and spokespeople, they have great influence in manufacturing reality, world views and 'truth' that excludes and denies the historical experiences and sovereignty of many 'Third World' countries.

All of this raises an important issue. How do we know what we know? Zimbabwe is but one issue, but if the mainstream media cannot be trusted on Zimbabwe, it is not likely that they should be trusted on other issues, especially issues where the domination by Western powers is being challenged. The consequences of their laziness, irresponsibility and uncritical reproduction of Western propaganda is that many people remain ignorant, including many local commentators who are in a position to influence the masses. Many people thus need to re-examine their views on Zimbabwe and President Mugabe given this inadequate and biased reporting.

The land situation in Zimbabwe is crucial to understanding the motives and interests that underlie the Zimbabwe situation. Britain never saw the importance of urgently and fairly addressing the land issue, and from the colonial period to now, it has been intent on maintaining illegitimate White control of the land, which belongs to Black Zimbabweans. What is happening now has implications for countries across the African continent, where, after political independence, White settler families have maintained control of ill-gotten land, thus perpetuating the dispossession of many indigenous Blacks who had their land stolen during the European scramble for Africa. Zimbabwe, under President Mugabe, has made the most progressive moves on the whole of the African continent in addressing the vexing land issue. For more on how the land is at the center of Zimbabwe's liberation struggles read "Zimbabwe, BBC and illegitimate White Control".

Of Sanctions, Half Truths and Outright Fabrications

Make no mistake about the situation. Things are desperate in Zimbabwe, but contrary to media reports, it is not because of the evil or excesses of Mugabe but because of the deliberate actions of the US, UK and other European countries working through, and/or sponsoring a complex web of actors including opposition forces, NGO's, the IMF and the Western media. Contrary to the views of many, sanctions against Mugabe are not a recent act, although the sanctions have increased in severity in recent times.

The sanctions started approximately ten years ago as the Western-instigated response to the land reclamation exercise that saw land illegitimately gained by Whites repossessed and redistributed to over 300,000 Black Zimbabweans. These sanctions include denial of access to development loans, boycotting exports from Zimbabwe, discouraging foreign investment in Zimbabwe and blocking Zimbabwe's access to technology, agricultural supplies and machinery. According to one commentator: "In November 1998, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) implemented undeclared sanctions against Zimbabwe, by warning off potential investors, freezing loans and refusing to negotiate with Zimbabwean officials on the issue of debt. In September 1999, the IMF suspended its support for economic adjustment and reform in Zimbabwe. In October 1999, the International Development Association, a multilateral development bank, suspended all structural adjustment loans and credits to Zimbabwe; in May 2000 it suspended all other forms of new lending."

It is understandable that some Zimbabweans support the opposition given that it is being said by Western leaders that sanctions will be lifted and life made better if Mugabe is removed. Persons inside of Zimbabwe may even have some very valid reasons for being against Mugabe, similar to many people in any country being against their present leader. That is okay if such is the case, then elections will allow them to elect and change their representatives as they want. What I am saying is that the people of Zimbabwe should determine their leader without foreign imperialistic intervention. People should be wary about puppet governments being installed to simply look after Western interests and perpetuate Western domination.

There is political violence in Zimbabwe from both sides. The police have arrested supporters of both parties for acts of violence. Mugabe has implored party supporters not to use violence; the MDC on the other hand, has encouraged the overthrow of the democratically elected government by violence.

Many reports coming from mainstream sources reporting on violence sanctioned by Mugabe appears to be fabricated. For example, supposedly after the elections, there were reports of gangs of Mugabe's thugs going around and beating up those who voted for the opposition. This smells of fabrication, given the secret ballot system. There was one case where a report was made that ruling party thugs beat up a young child, which caused international furore, and was carried boldly by several international media houses. However, when independent doctors examined the child, it was discovered he was not injured but had a preexisting physical condition (club feet); the mother admitted she lied and allowed her child to be used for this ruse because she needed the money. The New York Times, among those that carried the story, subsequently issued a soft retraction. So they lie loudly and retract softly. Story is here.

There are other examples of their fabrications being exposed, a pattern of lying that is strikingly familiar to the lies and media complicity (including the invention of weapons of mass destruction) in the lead-up to the US and UK's illegal invasion of Iraq. Given the agenda of BBC, CNN and others, no report coming from them can be trusted. It is impossible to understand what President Mugabe's motives and actions really are when being relayed from his sworn enemies who have a VESTED INTEREST in demonizing him, the ruling party and their policies. That is the West's blueprint for regime change.

Blueprint for Regime Change

The events in Zimbabwe should not be totally strange to students of history as it is a simple application of the West's blueprint for regime change. This blueprint is multi-pronged and involves but is not limited to:

1) Deliberate lies, fabrications and distortions all in an effort to demonize and discredit the government they are trying to overthrow.

2) Sponsoring of opposition forces, local media groups, mercenaries, NGO's and other subversive elements to challenge the ruling party and destabilize the country. For more see "Zimbabwe at War".

3) Formal and informal economic sanctions and international isolation which amounts to economic terrorism, even in the eyes of one anti-Mugabe commentator. See "The Darker Side of Sanctions".

4) The use of organisations such as the IMF, the World Bank and even so-called independent human rights watchdogs to pressure 'problem' countries.

The imperial logic is that the more poverty, inflation and violence there is, the more desperate the local population will get to remove the leader. Also, the consistent unfair demonization of Mugabe and the ruling party has created allies for the Western intervention project as a direct consequence of the West's web of propaganda that says that Mugabe is solely responsible for the present economic and social woes of Zimbabwe. The United States sponsored 'Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act' of 2001 authorized President George W. Bush to fund 'opposition media' as well as 'democracy and governance programmes' inside Zimbabwe. In fact, the United States and Britain have been quite open about their desires for regime change and the fact that they are actively spending millions of dollars to accomplish that.

The Real Bullies and Dictators

I should state that I have many points of disagreement with Mugabe. However, he does not deserve the type of demonization that he is being subjected to in the Western media. It other words, it is not that Mugabe is not without his faults like any other leader, but his demonization is reflective of Western RACISM. For example, no matter how many millions Bush, Blair, Clinton and many other Western leaders kill, maim, oppress and starve with their sanctions, policies, bombs and acts of violence, they will never be mentioned in the same deep negative light.

Sensible people should easily recognize who are the ultimate dictators and bullies. It is those same countries that are accusing Zimbabwe of human rights abuses and dictatorship that have a long rap sheet of genocide, illegal interventions, economic terrorism and hypocrisy. I am not even slightly convinced that these Western powers are even minimally concerned about human rights and the welfare of ordinary Africans. The United States and Britain are quite content to support the most rabid of rulers and regimes, once it suits their strategic interests. Little mention is made in the Western press about the Ethiopian regime, headed by Meles Zenawi, who has imprisoned opposition members, stolen elections and carried out a brutal invasion of Somalia at the behest of Western powers.

It is the US, the UK and other Western imperialist regimes that have been acting like world dictators and bullies, and they are quite accustomed to supporting dictators who follow their agenda while, on the other hand, resorting to intervention and violence when the actions of a country threaten their interests or capitalist ideologies. The circumstances of Haiti, Venezuela, Iraq and Afghanistan (TO NAME A FEW) show the lengths that these dominant world powers will go to get their way. The invasion of Iraq was a classic example of their blueprint for regime change, one that involved deliberate lies about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction as a pretext for invasion and their dismissal of the objections by the international community.

The Age of Information and Misinformation

People should not be casual about accepting information; instead they should make the effort to explore alternative perspectives and sources. Given the stranglehold that mainstream ideas, views and Western media have on shaping people's world views, in this age of information and misinformation, those who have access to better information should not be naïve or lazy. I would strongly recommend that people expose themselves to a variety of perspectives to better understand what is happening in Zimbabwe. The Zimbabwe Watch website (www.zimbabwewatch.com) is a good place to start. The local media houses also need to get their act together and look at how they get their international news. However, when the public becomes more informed then they can pressure mainstream media into being more responsible.
 http://www.rastaspeaks.com/tyehimba/2008/2007.html

brian

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PLease please please.....

23.07.2008 08:43

Go away. Walk pier short. Re-arrange as you see fit.

Exasperated


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Exasperated

23.07.2008 08:58

Don't you mean Exasperated, racist Rhodie who wants whites to have the land not those nig*ers!

Simon


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Retitle the story as.

23.07.2008 09:30

Stupid White People you have no right to be here now give me your homes and farms. Sounds like the BNP don't you think?

loppy


So why don't you start a Zim IMC Brian?

23.07.2008 13:00

Obviously you feel something for (((i))) since much of your campaign to correct our misconceptions of Zim and Mugabe have been published here. Naturally you have not included Al Jazeera in your list of sources for western imperialist lackey conduits of dodgey data.

Quite right too.

All the same, should you follow up on my suggestions to start a Zim IMC, it would be an idea to familiarise yourself more with the actual transmission and diffusion of information in this our "information age". After which you will learn of how low on the list of journalistic and blogging freedoms Zimbabwe is (I'd refer you to the very dodgey RSF  http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=25410&Valider=OK (whose director general I recently exposed as a CIA asset, would you believe, "because he got up my nose". But more of that another day) & then you could compare notes with the newest African IMC working groups. Most of these are north of the Sahara, but one could be useful to you in that it is located in a "post-British imperial state". i speak of course of Kenya. Now interestingly enough Kenya has a government of national unity and makes the most persistent "anti-Mugabe" noises on the continent. It would be very interesting for you (as a Mugabe apologist / supporter) to link up with those Kenya Indymedia who I'm sure you're not going to dismiss as imperialist lackeys since they have the courage to criticise their own regime. & therein lies a test.

.:. if you don't trust Kenya IMC - then which IMC can you trust?

let us know how you get on.

gurgle ribbid - weren't you on the red bush tea?


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murder, repression is justified - Uncle Joe said so

23.07.2008 13:03

To repeat what someone from a previous thread said - you'd probably praise Hitler if he had said he was 'anti-imperialist'.

mimic


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Mugabe & ZanuPF have ruined Zimbabwe, as well as sanctions

23.07.2008 13:29

Zimbabwe's plight may well have been made far worse because of sanctions, but it primarily came about because of the collapse in agricultural production from 200 onwards - the heart of the economy, and which directly came about as a result of the way Mugabe's government handled the land reform process. The main sanctions were exerted upon Zimbabwe in 2001.

Mugabe and ZanuPF's sanctioning of a rushed, ill-considered, large-scale land redistribution resulted in the dramatic reduction in export receipts and food producing capability. Prior to 2000, land-owning farmers, mostly white, had large tracts of land and utilized economies of scale to raise capital, borrow money when necessary, and purchase modern mechanised farm equipment to increase productivity on their land. The reforms broke this land into smaller tracts (thereby destroying the economies of scale) and gave it to former black farmworkers and peasants, who had little knowledge of how to run the farms efficiently or raise productivity, albeit made worse by the fact that levels of credit extended by banks dried up (which meant that the new resettled population on the land had no access to finance to purchase equipment or otherwise raise capital). However, Mugabe should have anticipated this - instead he diverted scarce financial resoiurces to the continued appropriation of the elitist black bourgeois and petite bourgeois and that Mugabe's regime is exposed as being primarily focused upon the protection of patronage networks predominantly within the ruling Zanu PF party, such as the war veterans (including the announcement of extraordinary compensation for the ‘war veterans', amounting to some 3% of GDP - begging the question, if they viewed themselves as having put themselves out for the independence struggle, who did they conceive they were fighting for - the Zimbabwean nation or just themselves?)

As in Guyana, anti imperialism and vanguardism has been used to cover up the repression of it's own citizens. imbabwe's problem has entirely been due to ZanuPF's overweening grip on power.
Horace Campbell and Eusi Kwayana : "It was only after the massive opposition from the working people in 1997 and after the loss of the referendum of February 2000 that the ZANU leadership opportunistically launched the Fast Track Land reform process. This opportunism has only been surmounted by the fact that the best land went to the political elite who was not real farmers. Opportunism and cronyism exposed the reality that for land reform to be beneficial for the mass of the population, reform must involve the political empowerment of the poor, especially farm workers. The new black landowners did not treat the farm workers any better than the previous settlers. If anything, this experience exposed the reality that the issues of the health and safety of farm workers and their children are just as important as the question of land ownership. Farm workers whether working on farms owned by blacks or whites must be paid a living wage and must have adequate protection from pesticides. They must be accorded full political and economical rights instead of being forced to live in a semi-slavery state. The experiences of land acquisition in Zimbabwe pointed to the reality that land reclamation by itself could not solve the problems of the Zimbabwean society. There had to be transformation of the credit, transportation, agricultural marketing, seed production, distribution of fertilizers, water management and all of the aspects of economic relations associated with agriculture."
Ref:  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/401546.html

Mugabe corrupted the land reform process by rushing it through, appropriating major concentrations of land to his own supporters while carrying out brutal supression of political opponents, abandoning the rule of law and free press, and corrupting the election counts and voting procedures of the 2002 presidential elections. In 2003, a particularly severe drought meant that thousands of people died from famine; however, Mugabe's blockading of food aid convoys to regions non-supportive of the regime was effectively akin to a Stalinist extermination policy.

Mugabe neglected to invest in the domestic food producing capability of his own country; he under-invested in agricultural capacity, and it's infrastructure from well before the IMFausterity measures of structural adjustment came into play by 1990 and shrunk state spending (inadequate investment in technical support, credit, seeds, fertilizer, irrigation, marketing and the like). Mugabe's populist land strategy was mainly about trying to restore some legitimacy amongst the vast rural population, whom he'd ignored for two decades, - at a time, in early 2000, when he faced certain electoral defeat. Now in the last few years, financial mismanagement (maintaining high salaries and payments to his patronage networks from an increased stock of printed currency) has led to over-supply of currency and hence inflation. Patrick Bond: "According to Reserve Bank governor Gideon Gono, 67 trillion Zimbabwean dollars (US$33 million at the effective exchange rate in January) were in circulation but could not be traced inside the financial system.The banks had only Z$2 trillion cash on hand. Said Gono, "The rest of the money is with cash barons who have opened mini-central banks at their houses. Unfortunately the people doing that are influential citizens with leadership positions."

Mugabe had the chance to make Zimbabwe truly independent through slow transition and gradual land redistribution in 1998, but he blew it, and has been crashing the economy just to keep the politbureau's head above water ever since. Doubts remain over the financing of the MDC by western backers and their enthusiasm for privatisation, with western financial capital looking to ride on the coat-tails of the installation of MDC into power. The extent of the accusation that the MDC is seeking to facilitate the recolonisation of the country claimed by Mugabe sympathisers is, however, unsubstantiated, since much of the talk of privatisation and shrinking the amount of state employees is really all about reducing the nepotism and flabby bureaucracy familiar to many post-independence bureaucratic-heavy "socialist" African states of which Zimbabwe is the last remaining. Where the MDC have said "In areas where a high level of technical skill is required, foreign strategic investors will be encouraged to bid for a majority stake in the enterprises being privatized", ZanuPF's denouncement of the MDC being spokespeople for the re-invasion of western financial capital is more resonant of a state bureaucracy that specialises in a discourse of pseudo-socialist propaganda that attacks the opposition on the basis of exaggerated proclaimation purely because it sees it's own hegemony under threat. They are also claims which ring abit hollow, while ZanuPF are happy to negotiate with the mining multinational Anglo-American about a proposed £200m platinum mining scheme in Zimbabwe. The plain truth is that the upper echlons of Zanu PF represent a cowardly bourgeois and petite bourgeois.

Most of the black left dismiss ZanuPF as primarily representing the interests of a bourgeios elite and capitalist-class who exact brutal suppression of political opponents and commandeer ruthless execution of political power in partnership with military rule. for instance the International Socialist Organisation, the Zimbabwe Social Forum and all the organisations under the umbrella of the Zimbabwe People's Convention who signed up to the Zimbabwe Peoples' Charter Ref:  http://www.kubatana.net/html/archive/cact/080209pc.asp?spec_code=080121elecdex&sector=ELEC&year=2008&range_start=901&intMainYear=2008&intTodayYear=2008

Mark


Record of ZanuPF

23.07.2008 13:33

ZanuPF represent a predominantly ethnic (Shona) capitalist bourgeois elite, propped up by their tribal support base, that have:
- successfully led the independence struggle alongside Joshua Nkomo's mainly Ndebele PFZapu against Ian Smith's Rhodesian Front, also known as The Second Chimurenga, or as Zimbabwe's liberation war, resulting in a negotiated settlement through British initiated negotiations culminating in the Lancaster House Constitutional Agreement in 1979.
- Involvement in border clashes against South African Afrikaner forces in the Border Wars of the 1980s
- committed war crimes within an internal civil war between ZanuPF forces and Zapu guerillas in Matabeleland during the 1980s, when the 5th brigade killed 10,000 Ndebele
- corrupted the land redistribution process, and in turn, sacrificed the long-term food producing and currency earning capability of the country, destroying the central dynamic of the Zimbabwean economy
- Completely mismanaged the economy by allowing cash-baron beneficiaries of Zimbabwe's patronage networks to print loads and loads of extra currency, so that the total currency in circulation was vastly in excess of the underlying productive resources of the country, leading to hyper-inflation
- financially enriched a priviledged elite and maintaining high salaries for the military, state police and civil service whilst neglecting public sector workers and allowing the mass of the population to endure hunger, starvation and severe economic hardship,
- hoarded land amongst their patronage networks and cronies, at the expense of the majority of the rural poor during the 1990s, when financial constraints meant the land redistribution process even after the 1992 Land Acquisition Act, was always going to be limited under the shadow of IMF austerity
- allowed the new capitalist farming entrants to treat the farm workers no better than the previous settlers
- and exhibited a woeful record on investment in agricultural infrastructure such as credit facilities, transportation, agricultural marketing, seed production, distribution of fertilizers and water management
- alleged suppresion of opponents and election irregularities in the 2000 and 2002 election in Zimbabwe
- The paying off of all outstanding debts to the IMF in 2006
- The introduction of the Indigenisation and Economic Empowerment Bill, legislation which stipulates that every company operating in the country must have at least 51% of its shares owned by indigenous Zimbabweans, in 2008
- election irregularities and brutal suppression of Zanu PF's political opponents in the run-off election has been so severe that even countries within SADC such as Zambia, Tanzania and Angola have broken ranks from the previous "benefit-of-the-doubt" consensus afforded to Zimbabwe, criticising the manner in which the election run-off has been handled in recognition that the excesses of the Zimbabwean state's brutality now have no bounds under Mugabe

Mark


Zanu-PF record

23.07.2008 17:16

The record of Zanu-PF led by Robert Mugabe certainly makes uncomfortable reading. This is not surprising!! Robert Mugabe comes from a rich elite and that's why he was able to afford his university days in London; Robert Mugabe has six degrees. In his words he said he has a "seventh degree in violence"(I agree with him on that one), and I'd say an eighth degree in apathy/incompetence!! I wonder if Joice Mujuru would do better as President!

J

Jason


Misrepresentation - of course! But all media is in this country.

24.07.2008 00:27

There is no doubt that the media in this country do manipulate facts and statistics and often downright lie, but there is no doubt in my mind that Mugabe is a facist, and should therefore be ridiculed and criticised at every possibile moment. Sure, the MDC aren't too much better, but its the lesser of two evils. Tsvangirai is a neo-liberal puppet.

Beehives


Mugabe not from a wealthy background

24.07.2008 02:37

'he record of Zanu-PF led by Robert Mugabe certainly makes uncomfortable reading. This is not surprising!! Robert Mugabe comes from a rich elite and that's why he was able to afford his university days in London;'


'Mugabe was born in Matibiri village near Kutama Mission in the Zvimba District north east of Salisbury in Southern Rhodesia. He had two older brothers, and one of them, Michael, was very popular in the village. Both his older brothers died, leaving Robert and his younger brother, Donato.[19] His father, Gabriel Mugabe Matibiri, a carpenter,[8] abandoned the Mugabe family in 1934 after Michael died, in search of work in Bulawayo.[20] Mugabe was raised as a Roman Catholic, studying in Marist Brothers and Jesuit schools, including the exclusive Kutama College, headed by an Irish priest, Father Jerome O'Hea, who took him under his wing. Through his youth, Mugabe was never socially popular nor physically active and spent most of his time with the priests or his mother when he was not reading in the school's libraries. He was described as never playing with the other children but always enjoying his own company[8]. He qualified as a teacher, but left to study at Fort Hare in South Africa graduating in 1951 while meeting contemporaries such as Julius Nyerere, Herbert Chitepo, Robert Sobukwe and Kenneth Kaunda. He then studied at Oxford University in 1952, Salisbury (1953), Gwelo (1954), and Tanzania (1955–1957).

Originally graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Fort Hare in 1951, Mugabe subsequently earned six further degrees through distance learning including a Bachelor of Administration and Bachelor of Education from the University of South Africa and a Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Laws, Master of Science and Master of Laws, all from the University of London External Programme.[21] The two Law degrees were taken whilst he was in prison, whilst the Master of Science degree was taken during his premiership of Zimbabwe.[22]'
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe

brian


what mugabe is not

24.07.2008 02:46

'There is no doubt that the media in this country do manipulate facts and statistics and often downright lie, but there is no doubt in my mind that Mugabe is a facist, and should therefore be ridiculed and criticised at every possibile moment. Sure, the MDC aren't too much better, but its the lesser of two evils. Tsvangirai is a neo-liberal puppet.'
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Tsvangirai IS a neoliberal puppet..Mugabe is an economic nationalist....that makes Mr T a disaster.

Mugabe is no facist, and you dont even know what facism is.

Your wish to ridicule Mugabe is driven by the MSM, which is your source of misinfo on him.

Mugabe is widely admired in africa and in third world...If he wasa real fascist he wouldnt be...Just ask Fidel Castro, who endores Mugabe.

brian


What a.....

24.07.2008 11:31

Muppet!
Brian you are excelling yourself again.

Hitler is widely admired
Pol Pot very much admired by many leaders in and around SE Asia
apartheid is still admired by many
Thatcher is admired by many....

Admiration is not justification for committing crimes against your own people & country.

Please keep the articles coming. They actually make my day full of laughter & Mirth.



Mat Sinclaire


Brian

25.07.2008 11:12


Brian/All

Thank you for citing the wikipedia article on Robert Mugabe! However I found it curious that you omited much of what was in that article on the oreo cookie Robert 'Ian Smith' Mugabe.
Here's what brian omits from the article he cites:

-The targeted killings of the Ndebelle people in 1988.

-The costly intervention in the second Congo war and at a time when the Zimbabwan economy was struggling.

-Printed hundreds of dollars triggering hyperinflation.

-Mugabe's waging a violent campaign on homosexuals (hardly a libertarian social democrat is he brian)?

Once again thank you for this enlightening information brian. Yes, this infomation comes from brian people!!!

Jason

Jason


No jason

26.07.2008 01:04

Jason, do me a favor and pretend to speak for me.
Not everything on Wiki can be trusted..Its open to anyone peddling anything. For eg:

No targeted killings of the Ndebelle people in 1988.

The war in the congo was started by the invasion of the US backed Kagame regime in Rwanda....the same guy had the former president of Rwanda assassinated. Zimbabwe as asked to send troops by SADC.

Got it...

'Printed hundreds of dollars triggering hyperinflation.'

What??? The hyper inflation is caused by the massive sanctions, that have undemined industry and destabilied the economy.

'Mugabe's waging a violent campaign on homosexuals (hardly a libertarian social democrat is he brian)? '

'violent campaign'? Sorry but he hasnt. Meanwhile, if you are looking for violence against homosexuals, look no further than contemporary western world:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_gays,_lesbians,_bisexuals,_and_the_transgendered

and here are its roots:

'Prior to the rise of Christianity, homosexuality had been accepted as normal expression of sexuality by all ancient cultures. There is evidence that same sex unions have occurred since the beginning of recorded history in Egypt, China, Greece, Rome and Japan. [5] Famous lovers include the Egyptian couple Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum and the Greek couple Harmodius and Aristogiton. The first recorded use of the word "marriage" for same-sex couples occurs during the Roman Empire. A number of marriages are recorded to have taken place during this period. [6]

The rise of Christianity changed attitudes to same-sex unions and led to the persecution of gays and the rise of homophobia. In the year 342, the Christian emperors Constantius and Constans declared that same-sex marriage to be illegal.[7] In the year 390, the Christian emperors Valentinian II, Theodoisus and Arcadius declared homosexual sex to be illegal and those who were guilty of it were condemned to be publicly burned alive. [8] The Christian emperor Justinian (527-565) made homosexuals a scape goat for problems such as "famines, earthquakes, and pestilences." [9]

(ditto)


Meanwhile, the UK and US HAVE caused real atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet managed to escape even on measly sanction. I suggest you deal with real home grown evils before you or wikis anonymous contributors ingvent any more

brian


Mat

26.07.2008 01:34



Glad to make your day. Pity i cant educate you to the realities of political life whereby rich white govts disguising themselves 'the international community', attack a poor black third world country simply because its govt prefers to exercise some sovereignty. Gone are the days of straightforward aggressive invasion by macho men. Now they are dressed up as humanitarian missions of mercy.

Hitler, polpot, thatcher..that tells me you are a token white liberal, who likes to think he is too smart to be fooled by the media, when he is being fooled by the media.

Hitler (much admired in US and UK), Polpot(US pawn) and Thatcher are all creatures of the same western world which is attacking Zimbabwe.

brian


Matt

28.07.2008 14:26


Matt,

You must not be fooled by the western media, nor should be fooled by any other media, the situation is obviously not as black and white nor simplex as I may have made you believe. But that's the power of media rhetoric. Also you should not be fooled by my media efforts to be so pro-Mugabe, maybe I'm an SIS agent, trying to see what the opinions are on Zimbabawe. Maybe not, who knows, just keep thinking as nothing or nobody are what they seem. Maybe I'm genuine and just naive. Work it out for yourselves.!!

P.S. You become what you oppose!

brian


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fake brian alert

29.07.2008 02:39

Fake Brian

Please be a little more original and dont try to disguise your message under my name.

Real Brian

brian


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