Protest against fascist BNP's Red, White & Blue

redletter | 14.07.2008 21:48 | Stop the BNP's Red White and Blue festival | Anti-racism

Protest against fascist BNP's Red, White & Blue

Join the protest to stop the BNP Rally in Derbyshire

Saturday August 16th
11am in the village of Codnor, Derbyshire, East Midlands

A protest will take place against the Red, White & Blue fascist rally organised by the BNP in Derbyshire on Saturday August 16th.

Despite significant local opposition — including the withdrawal of a premises (alcohol & music) licence by the local authority and police — the BNP are going ahead with their Nazi rally in the Derbyshire countryside. In previous years, BNP members were secretly filmed by BBC documentary makers singing Nazi marching songs at the event.

Unite Against Fascism are calling on every organisation and individual opposed the BNP's attempt to hold an event aimed at stirring up race hate, to protest near the rally site in Codnor, Derbyshire from 11am on Sat 16th August (exact timings and venue tbc).

This protest is called by Derby, Mansfield and Nottingham Trades Council, Derby Unite Against Fascism, Notts Stop the BNP, and Unite Against Fascism nationally. Supported by East Midlands TUC (and in conjunction with local and regional trade union organisations and local UAF/ LMHR groups).

For further information contact the national UAF office on 020 7833 4916 /

unite@ucu.org.uk

redletter

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And if you want to avoid being penned in with a load of trot paper-sellers

14.07.2008 22:17

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Antifascist

quick off the mark aren't you?

14.07.2008 22:40

now i wonder what provoked this announcement....?

Now i don't lol

Anne T. Faugh

Situations vacant

15.07.2008 10:57

Think the BNP can be defeated by voting Labour or for some middle-class tourist standing on a left-wing ticket?

Want to waste your time on pointless marches waving a lollipop or standing behind police lines shouting trite slogans at the BNP, instead of going in and dealing with them directly?

Fancy being bossed around by clueless ‘stewards’ who collaborate with the cops?

Want to be recruited into the Socialist Workers Party?

If so, you should contact the Unite Against Fascism about the Red, White and Blue protests.

If you want to get on with the job of smashing fascism contact your local Antifa group:

http://www.antifa.org.uk/cont.htm

Quick of the mark doesn't even come close, up until a few weeks ago our local SWP were denying any knowledge of a protest against Red, White and Blue!

Militant

Great to see unity in action

15.07.2008 12:54

The truth is that the more people who join the demo, the more likely this nazi fest will be smashed as oppose to Antifa line that we will smash them come what may. What happens if only 20 antifa turn up, are you telling me you are gonna stop the RW&B fest.

Numbers are key to this demo and antifa do nobody favours with their usual secterian ways.

The point is get there whether its with UAF, antifa or whoever (i dont care), people can decide what action to take after a proper assessment of the situation. If 20,000 anti nazis turn up then were talking, if 100 turn up then our actions will be limited, simple as.

redletter

SWP, non-sectarian?

15.07.2008 18:46

Redletter, do you really think that UAF, a SWP front group are non-sectarian?

Autonomous groups have always had to protect themselves from hierachical groups such as the SWP who wish to swallow up all dissent under one banner, and effectively subdue all action to a load of people chanting slogans. I myself and many others involved in campaigns and activist groups of a wide variety have experienced this. Why do you think the turn-over of SWP members is so high?

If you want to disrupt for stop the festival from taking place (a pretty worthwhile goal) then direct action is needed, something UAF would never be willing to encourage. It does not matter how many people turn up to a demo if stewards boss people around and protestors are reprimanded for doing anything which will actually work.

I would recommend that people involved in UAF who are planning on going should break away and plan their own action if the idea of sitting penned up in a protest chanting ineffectual slogans for several hours is not your cup of tea. And if you have no experience of direct action then perhaps contacting Antifa might be a good place to start.

Blackletter

Who's the real enemy?

16.07.2008 17:57

Seems to me that if certain individuals put as much time and energy into attacking the RWB as attacking the SWP we should have 50,000 there on the day, and no problem shutting it down!

Come on guys, this leftier-than-thou isn't doing anyone any favours.

See you there

See you there

16.07.2008 21:59

There's nothing 'sectarian' about exposing the SWP/UAF as the opportunist wankers they are. If you want to be penned in by the cops (as previously arranged) and cop-stewards in Codnor, well away from the site, being hassled to buy shite Trot papers by middle-class idiots who won't have a clue what to do if they come into contact with the BNP, put your faith in the worthless tossers who have been bounced into belatedly mobilising for this because Antifa and their own rank and file are already doing so. If you really want to stop the RWB, you know where the site is, go for it...

And if the RWB has not been scrapped by the 16th August, let's get out there together, bypass the cops, bypass the Trots, and close the fucker down.

Antifa

You obviously know nothing of the SWP tradition

16.07.2008 22:52

Really, I feel compelled to engage myself with the antifa's comments or better phrase smears. Antifa has no tradition to speak off when fighting the fascist, nothing, they have no sense of history.

Do they know nothing of the battle with the NF in the 70's, the last time the nazis were a threat, do they know nothing of the battle against the NF when they were driving from the streets of Lewisham by the ANL (SWP were heavily involved) do they know nothing of the battles with the NF in brick lane, do they know that a SWp comrade named Blair Peach was killed by police in 1978 by the police when he was protesting against the nazis. Do they know nothing when the NF were driving away from the streets all along the UK in the 70's initiated by SWP members, this is our proud tradition, what is antifa?

Look i dont mean to put you down but please when you have no record it a bit sleazy to be rightous on this matter.

redletter

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Redletter

17.07.2008 07:03

And when your time comes redletter, it will be slow and painfull in full reflection of what kind of little red whore you are.

Get ready for a rope red fascist scum.

Anarcho

imc take this off

17.07.2008 08:55

Since when has death threats been acceptable on Indymedia.

IMC please take the above comment off

redletter

The SWP tradition

17.07.2008 10:03

Unfortunately we do know about the SWP tradition, hijacking causes, taking them over or shutting them down/marginalising them when it can't.

The SWP have contributed little positive to anti-fascism since the late 1970's, when the ANL was forcibly shut down.

Since that time the SWP's role has been counter-productive and confused with little understanding of the changing nature of fascism.

For example, last months pathetic demonstration in central London which had a few thousand people shouting 'smash the Nazi BNP'.

The UAF are not interested in 'shutting down' RWB, they will organise a counter-protest several miles away where they can be penned in by police and sell Socialist Workers to the people who've turned up.

Antifa is a relatively new organisation but it stands in the tradition of militant anti-fascism. The SWP is opposed to this.

As for the comment about Blair Peach, yes his death was a tragedy and outrage but getting killed is not and achievement and nothing to be proud of!

Militant

RedLetter and the SWP tradition

17.07.2008 10:49

I was at Lewisham Redletter, were you? Back in those days the SWP may have had some members who were willing to get their hands dirty fighting the fascists, but they either had the good sense to leave or were expelled. Even then the party hierarchy constantly manipulated anti-fascist events, collaborated with the cops, and even with the fascists themselves, because all they wanted was a nice safe arena in which to sell papers and recruit. Nothing has changed in that respect.

Antifa

Bricklane

17.07.2008 10:59

Some of us are old enough to remember the fascists peddling their wares in Brick Lane. We also remember the SWP selling down the other end, alternating shifts with the fascists. SWP members and others were constantly told not to attack the fascists because it would endanger the paper-sale. That was SWP national policy, and anyone who broke with it was expelled.

Old International Socialist & Antifascist

red `white and blue

17.07.2008 17:02

sadly the swp mean well but it will be antifa that has the balls to actually fight with the fascists. swp\uaf will phone ahead and say mr policeman we will be there at 11 can you protect us please. this old fashioned approach is dead in the water and just makes us all look like schoolkids .the only way forward is to actually fight the fash head on ,yes we know there will be a lot of fash scum and thier football hooligan mooron mates but if enough of us turn up dodge the coppers and fight we will make history.not just be laughed at as in the past.

maguire

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BNP Festival

20.07.2008 09:29

What is your problem with this festival?
I live in Denby and last years festival went off without most people knowing it was there.
No noise, no traffic and the only incident I saw was some hippy muppet with a cardboard anti BNP sign trying to stop traffic.
If Muslims can march through the streets of London burning British flags and shouting kill all non Muslims then the BNP can have a party in my village.
You guys need to look where you live. When I last looked it was a free country and I for one are happy to see people celbrate some English values for a change instead of pandering to the minorities and all this PC rubbish.
The SNP and Welsh national parties have rallies all the time so bring on the BNP

Dr Tim Hicks
mail e-mail: bender@starspath.com

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ANTIFA MUGS _ ALL BANGED UP BY CHRISTMAS

17.08.2008 22:27

Well ladies what a pathetic show that was at yesterdays RWB. What a bunch of wankers. You really aint got a clue have you? First 30 of you get nicked on your way to the last London BPP meeting & now this. With a bit of luck you'll all be banged up by Christmas & then you will be able to reflect on just how great multi-racialism is. Make sure to tke some lube to Court with you as your new cell mate might just split your sphinctres without - we all know what they say about black men don't we? Let me know if it's true. Mugs. YES WE SHALL PASS. HITLER WAS RIGHT.

ES
mail e-mail: greater-london-bpp@hotmail.co.uk

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