Support grows for anti-Nazi demonstration
red letter | 20.05.2008 20:52 | Anti-racism
Assemble 12 noon on Saturday 21 June at Tooley Street, London SE1, behind City Hall for a march to Trafalgar Square. For more details go to » www.lovemusichateracism.com
The national march against fascism and racism called for Saturday 21 June in London is building momentum.
Unite Against Fascism (UAF) has joined Love Music Hate Racism (LMHR) in organising the march, which is also being backed by a range of trade unions and other campaigning organisations.
The demonstration comes in the wake of the fascist British National Party (BNP) winning a seat on the London assembly, as well as making gains in council elections across England.
Wherever the BNP gets established, race hatred and racist attacks inevitably follow. It is time for the anti-Nazi majority to stand up to the BNP and drive them out of the political mainstream.
The 100,000-strong anti-BNP carnival organised by LMHR on the eve of the elections shows the potential for building a movement.
The 21 June demonstration will send a message to the fascists that the broad spectrum of society rejects their bigotry and their politics of hate.
It will also serve as a focus to reinvigorate and reinforce the movement against the BNP across the country.
Assemble 12 noon on Saturday 21 June at Tooley Street, London SE1, behind City Hall for a march to Trafalgar Square. For more details go to » www.lovemusichateracism.com
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SWP copyrighted farce,boring placards & get stabbed in back like antiwar&afa
21.05.2008 07:02
Can anyone prove SWP arent behind UAF front besides Lancaster?
If they are, I though UAF wasnt just SWP, maybe we should play them at their own tactics & reclaim our nests from the crazy cuckoo swappies.
At best you want us to build you a mass movement & then have it go a2b?
The Kaiser & some bankers let Lenin through in his sealed train to pacify russia the revolution had already started with Battleship Potemkin lead by the anarchists with help from the master at arms.
Bakunin wasnt perfect he was right about the marxism & dictatorship though.
Eva Mackhno
More opportunity to sell papers!
21.05.2008 07:48
@narchist
copyright?
21.05.2008 10:31
see through the shite
2 bald men fighting over a comb
21.05.2008 10:55
gimme antifa anyday rather than YET ANOTHER cynical, soul-destroying swappie frontjob
Daansaaf
The demo...
21.05.2008 13:10
I would argue though that Antifa - as an antifascist organisation of the anarchist movement - should produce a statement and some ideas on what people who are opposed to parties like the BNP can do. Otherwise, again, we leave all the arguments to the piss-poor left.
anarchist
please stay at home
21.05.2008 15:53
antifa is a anarchist front where every member is an anarchist, nothing more nothing less.
red letter
suggestion
21.05.2008 22:31
these will be small demos and definiyley make BNP show thier true colours.
burn barnbrook
Why oh why....
22.05.2008 03:15
surely an antifascist movement could be created that was far bigger and better and connected with the working class by ANYONE else?
Even the damn reformists could probably put together a damn sight better thing than "UAF"
Where are the bloody activists of the 80s? why is the SWP the only group left organising mass protests?
anti-swp
Ah yes, a march...
22.05.2008 06:38
Different tactics suit different occasions, and a march hardly seems like the appropriate way of 'sending a message to the BNP'. (Personally I'd use carrier pigeon, since they seem to be stuck in the 1930s)
The only possible good that can come out of this is that some people who have a herd instinct might be more reluctant to vote BNP because they think everyone else is going to look down on them because of it - probably a worthwhile aim, but only the means to an end, and not the be all and end all of fighting fascism.
We really need to discover/invent/rediscover more effective methods of dealing with issues like this, where those we are fighting are not the ones in power; the appeal to public opinion through the lense of the media, the implicit threat to electoral majorities, etc are all useless against a party who are on the fringes of political seriousness and certainly outside of any respectability, with no hope of getting into any considerable position of power.
rogue
to red letter re antifa
22.05.2008 10:29
afa wob
Question
22.05.2008 10:50
Red Roger
SWP has good record with resisting nazis
22.05.2008 13:05
Today the BNP do not hold demonstrations (they might in the future) so what should our response be. There are many of working class people and orgainsations that a worried about the nazis, at the moment we need to establish our forces, by holding this demonstration we can gauge our potential forces.
Now that it is clear that the BNP are more of a threat I am sure working class people will be motivated to mobilise.
In future UAF in conjunction with LMHR will hold festivals in BNP strongholds such as dagenham and blackburn.
P.S UAF is a very broad coalition including most of the trade unions, labour party MPs and members, musicians , artists, individuals, arguably alot more broader than antifa certainly is.
Also the SWP has a very good history of uniting people against the nazis, the period around the 70s prove this and the Anti Nazi League was very affective with dealing with the NF, i dont recall or know any anarchists lead group at the time worth a mention.
red letter
Red Letter Dates
22.05.2008 14:58
To build a better world a revolutionary must first address (head on) all those who fight for exactly the opposite. But you obviously know that which is why you co-operate with them. Labour, Police, Capitalists........SWP
A21
SWP's real 'good record'
22.05.2008 15:48
But they are even better at gulling naive, but angry and idealistic young potential activists and using them and fucking them around until said idealists become bitter, apathetic ex-idealists.
They are also good at endless self-propagandising and pretending they are a significant force in Uk grassroots politics, rather than a tiny, stgnant irrelevant trot sect.
Not sure what else they're good at, though.
And this is a trot saying this.
DaanSaaf
Misinformation, the facts stand out
22.05.2008 16:00
This is very typical of anarchists, they spout off all this "I am hard man" and how the SWP love the police but how many of your UK comrades have actually been killed by the state, nill/none.
Blair Peach, a SWP member was killed by the police in 1978 on an anti nazi demonstaration, the police tried to cover it up, please do not tell me how the SWP suck up to the police, the same police that killed our members. idiot.
red letter
My thoughts...
22.05.2008 17:00
I think an antifa/anarchist bloc is exactly what this demo needs.
All this talk about the great SWP of the ‘70s is all well and good but the SWP today is a far cry from what it used to be. It used to have a decent amount of working class people involved before they started solely pandering to middle class students and showing contempt to the working classes just like all the other political parties.
The fact is it isn’t activists/revolutionaries/lefties that are being killed by the police its normal people like Charles De Mendez and Hayley Adamson. And it is these deaths that show the police in their real colours, mindless thugs who have no respect for life, anyone who collaborates with them is either highly ignorant or a complete cunt.
If I die on a nazi street, there'll be 10 dead nazis at my feet...
Regarding two earlier comments -
22.05.2008 17:21
And as for red letter, bemoaning the fact that your movement has no clue what to do because "we used to just organise counter-demos, but now there's nothing to counter-demo against" (paraphrased) is a bit pathetic, isn't it? Who's the one not offering a positive alternative now? The answer is that you get off your arses and do some kind of POSITIVE campaigning against the BNP if you're so concerned...
Leafleting, community meetings (particularly if they can be drawn together around some kind of community centre/social centre/etc), publicising the misadventures of the criminal elements of the BNP, stickers in public places (although of course I'm not advocating criminal damage - your car window/bumper should do nicely, although watch out for flying shards if the BNP see it), etc are all viable alternatives to a tired old symbolic march that misses the point of what a march is all about. They should help to turn people off of BNP far more effectively than seeing some people walk down a street against racism.
rogue
@ red letter
22.05.2008 18:27
says it all. The SWP are in fact an - admittedly involuntary - aid to the fash, and a shackle on the left, in that they use the anti-fash cause so cynically for their narrow sectarian centralist cause that it drains the life from the anti-fash, and other left campaigns.
By contrast, Antifa are a group whose core is anarchist but who work honestly and honourably with non-anarchist types, which is why antifa is far more dynamic and strong at the grassroots than the pale shadow of a force that is UAF.
DaanSaaf
A word of warning to inexperienced anti-fascists.
23.05.2008 09:22
THE AUTHORITARIAN LEFT
For decades revolutionary left groups such as the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party, have opportunistically used the mobilisation against fascism as a way of trying to swell their membership numbers and the coffers of their party.
We are not interested in working with these groups, nor with their front groups, such as the Anti-Nazi League™ or Unite Against Fascism™.
Our experience is that these front groups exist merely to try and recruit members on behalf of the controlling party, to peddle their papers, and to manipulate and marginalize genuine anti-fascists.
In the past we have seen the leadership of such fronts collaborate not only with the State, but also with the fascists themselves.
We will not be fooled again, and advise genuine anti-fascists within these organisations to leave, after which we may be able to work with them.
http://www.antifa.org.uk/foundstat.htm
Rosemary.
A UNITED FRONT
24.05.2008 03:07
ABB
ABB
24.05.2008 09:23
Danski
DANSKI
24.05.2008 12:25
Is that because i believe that all of us who are against racism should fighting against the bnp and not each other, or is it that i think it is bad public relation's for the met pol to allow a known neo- nazi to march with them.. I mean, what does that say to multi- racial london.
Or was it because of spelling mistakes?
Look forward to hearing from you MATE.
ABB
ABB
25.05.2008 17:22
There is no such thing as a fucking 'united front', its an urban fucking myth.
You can not work with the SWP and expect to achieve ANYTHING.
And if that isnt enough for you try this...
TROTSKY WAS A CUNT.
Danski
Danski
25.05.2008 21:38
ABB