How dare anyone in the Labour Party point the finger at anyone else and talk about Toffs and money. The only people who seem to have benefited from Labour's years in power are the super rich and the Blairs and his Cabinet who have all had and continue to do so even when they leave office of having their snouts firmly in the trough.
It is completely laughable to even pretend that the Labour party is a party of the working classes. The working classes have suffered more under Blair than under Thatcher. I would like to see Ian Bone and Class War take on the decadent money grabing carreerist scum in the Labour Party as well as the Tory party.
Strangely, the Mail on Sunday printed exactly the same story on Sunday 18 - the date Ian Bone put it up on his website. Both use the same pictures.
The Mail on Sunday would have to have written the story before Ian Bone put his version online, because it would have gone to press on Saturday.
There can only be two conclusions I can see to this, both of which paint class warrior Ian Bone in a weird light.
Either:
1) Ian Bone's reading the Mail on Sunday and ripping it off.
2) The pics with the Mail on Sunday's story - which they credited to Getty images - were the ones Bone says were "exclusive" to him, Which means Bone's selling pics to Getty which are being used to accompany pro-Tory articles in the Daily Mail.
Both are weird and uncharacteristic. Hope there's another explanation.
1) he would never collaborate with anyone he'd ID'ed as an MoS partner 2) he wouldn't scream 'EXCLUSIVE!' if he knew this wasn't the case. i'd say he was just mistaken, and there's a perfectly reasonable explanation. I CAN'T believe either of those 2 other explanations
Agree entirely, DaanSaaf - I think it's weird and uncharacteristic too.
After a bit of pondering, I can think of a third possible explanation:
3) A third party with a camera and sympathies to Class War was visiting Crewe or is based there. They tipped off Ian Bone and gave him the pics, but decided it was worth making some cash on the side so also gave them to Getty or another news agency. That agency in turn sold them to the Mail on Sunday.
But there's a hole in that theory as the Mail on Sunday were already on to the story - they had quotes from Alex Norris which they'd have got by sending one of their reporters or a freelancer to loiter outside the Labour HQ, which they would have to have done at least a day before Bone ran the story on his site. Curious.
(I'm being even more cynical about story sources than normal this week - a posting about deaths in Palestine, which began with a rant about how the incidents hadn't been covered by the mainstream media, was 99% copied and pasted from an article in The Independent two years ago with a fake dateline attached. Thanks to the indy mods for hiding it.)
I submitted the above comments to Ian Bone's website underneath the article. But he did not upload them or respond to them. Which is also weird, given that if someone pointed to evidence suggesting I was a Daily Mail plaguiarist I'd challenge them and try to explain what really happened.
1) he hasn't had time 2) knows he ain't that: knows that all who know him know that the very idea is absurd 3) feels incensed at the idea he has any need to defend himself. c'mon, the idea of IB, of all people, taking the DM's shilling is about as feasible as finding Ian duncan smith outside tesco's shouting "SOCialist workah! SOCialist workah!" and flogging papers
Agree with your IDS analogy. It's exactly because it's so downright weird and unlikely that I've been challenging it. If it's come about that the Mail on Sunday are ripping him off, or using him as a source, that's equally funny given how much they must hate him.
2) and 3) don't make sense in the face of the evidence. But I'd accept excuse 1)
Norville - just realised my last post read as a tad abusive. not getting at you at all mate, and you were right to put that on Ian's site, and I can see why you'd challenge those comments and not want to be smeared as a DM-Plagiarist.
I guess the only point I was trying to make is; some would respond in kind, some would take a water-off-duck's-back line and think it not worth taking time to refute, all depending on the individual.
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Labour Party Toffs
19.05.2008 11:14
It is completely laughable to even pretend that the Labour party is a party of the working classes. The working classes have suffered more under Blair than under Thatcher. I would like to see Ian Bone and Class War take on the decadent money grabing carreerist scum in the Labour Party as well as the Tory party.
JIMBO
Same story was in the Mail on Sunday
19.05.2008 11:51
Strangely, the Mail on Sunday printed exactly the same story on Sunday 18 - the date Ian Bone put it up on his website. Both use the same pictures.
The Mail on Sunday would have to have written the story before Ian Bone put his version online, because it would have gone to press on Saturday.
There can only be two conclusions I can see to this, both of which paint class warrior Ian Bone in a weird light.
Either:
1) Ian Bone's reading the Mail on Sunday and ripping it off.
2) The pics with the Mail on Sunday's story - which they credited to Getty images - were the ones Bone says were "exclusive" to him, Which means Bone's selling pics to Getty which are being used to accompany pro-Tory articles in the Daily Mail.
Both are weird and uncharacteristic. Hope there's another explanation.
Norville B
Ian bone; 2 absolute certainties
19.05.2008 18:19
2) he wouldn't scream 'EXCLUSIVE!' if he knew this wasn't the case.
i'd say he was just mistaken, and there's a perfectly reasonable explanation.
I CAN'T believe either of those 2 other explanations
DaanSaaf
OK, alternative explanation
20.05.2008 12:06
Agree entirely, DaanSaaf - I think it's weird and uncharacteristic too.
After a bit of pondering, I can think of a third possible explanation:
3) A third party with a camera and sympathies to Class War was visiting Crewe or is based there. They tipped off Ian Bone and gave him the pics, but decided it was worth making some cash on the side so also gave them to Getty or another news agency. That agency in turn sold them to the Mail on Sunday.
But there's a hole in that theory as the Mail on Sunday were already on to the story - they had quotes from Alex Norris which they'd have got by sending one of their reporters or a freelancer to loiter outside the Labour HQ, which they would have to have done at least a day before Bone ran the story on his site. Curious.
(I'm being even more cynical about story sources than normal this week - a posting about deaths in Palestine, which began with a rant about how the incidents hadn't been covered by the mainstream media, was 99% copied and pasted from an article in The Independent two years ago with a fake dateline attached. Thanks to the indy mods for hiding it.)
Norville B
just a thought
20.05.2008 14:21
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I did.
21.05.2008 10:43
I submitted the above comments to Ian Bone's website underneath the article. But he did not upload them or respond to them. Which is also weird, given that if someone pointed to evidence suggesting I was a Daily Mail plaguiarist I'd challenge them and try to explain what really happened.
Norville B
mebbe
22.05.2008 13:33
2) knows he ain't that: knows that all who know him know that the very idea is absurd
3) feels incensed at the idea he has any need to defend himself.
c'mon, the idea of IB, of all people, taking the DM's shilling is about as feasible as finding Ian duncan smith outside tesco's shouting "SOCialist workah! SOCialist workah!" and flogging papers
DaanSaaf
Ta
22.05.2008 14:07
Agree with your IDS analogy. It's exactly because it's so downright weird and unlikely that I've been challenging it. If it's come about that the Mail on Sunday are ripping him off, or using him as a source, that's equally funny given how much they must hate him.
2) and 3) don't make sense in the face of the evidence. But I'd accept excuse 1)
Norville B
apologies Norville b
22.05.2008 14:40
I guess the only point I was trying to make is; some would respond in kind, some would take a water-off-duck's-back line and think it not worth taking time to refute, all depending on the individual.
DaanSaaf