Well I mean to be fair, the cops did move the BNP on, just as they would anarchists or socialists in a similar situation. Do you really want or expect preferential treatment from the state? Do you really want to be seen to support the explicitly ideological use of offenses that exist to create trumped up charges like "breach of the peace" or "wasting police time"?

Be a lot easier just to kick the fuck out of 'em.

In plain view of two police vans? That sounds like an intelligent way to spend an afternoon. [note to the forces of law and order: the above statement was intended to be taken sarcastically]

Sometimes people need to know when to pick their fights [metaphorically speaking, our dear defenders of justice and public safety]

Pure quisling nazi scum, insult to freedom & the flag. Why are we paying taxes for police to protect them???given the chance most BNP leaders& many supporters would try to massacre half the mixed race uk police force as well,

bless their little democratic red white & poo socks, they are lucky they just get a duffing, childkilling scum, more depraved than Stalin which takes some doing

If you lot had an ounce truth in all the lies you are spreading what’s your problem with the BNP selling there papers. if they are that bad surely the public would just ignore them.
Your problem is that the BNP speak the truth.
Also a lot of the BNP are ex forces, people who would fight to defend our country, a degree of loyalty and citizenship that you would no nothing about.
I wonder if any of you Marxist, Communist traitors have ever served your country.

You shout and scream on the streets like demented children.

And yes the BNP do 100% support the police, no matter what colour they are, the new BNP Scottish secretary was engaged for many a happy year to a coloured lass.

I agree that Griffin has to go and his coterie that he surrounds himself with, but 99% of the BNP's membership are decent people, many of whom are ex police officers, just because we care about our country, and we actually want to do something about spiralling crime, social injustice, taxation and a whole host of other problems that are propelling Britain into a crime ridden hell hole. But then that is what you Anarchists want eh.
It’s also pathetic how you go on like we are some Nazi henchmen, that is a outright lie, we don’t intend to invade or take over another country, we wont force anyone to do anything they don’t want, apart from foreign criminals who will be repatriated to their own homelands, that’s of course unless you want our streets full with criminals, to enhance our populations life.
Yes we want to stop mass immigration, note the word mass, we have a duty to make sure we can feed our own people and provide them with a job and house. Or perhaps you Commies also have problems with that.

We don’t even have problems with Muslims, just the ones that want to blow us up or preach hate, and yes we are aware that certain followers of Islam have declared war on the West, maybe you would have been happy if the Glasgow airport bombers had been successful and lots of children and families had been killed, you can be sure that the BNP would fully support our security services and police in protecting our citizens, but then you anarchists don’t mind the odd bomb or too.

Its time you all grew up and cleared your drug induced haze from your mind and had a look at what’s happening in the real world.
Next time you see the BNP on the streets talk to them I am sure they will listen to you; they even have the humility to concede if you have a valid point.

I wonder if you Marxists can act as grown up. I doubt it, but then miracles do happen.

Aberdeen BNP, do you actually know anything about the party you are a part of?

The BNP was formed as a breakaway from the National Front as they saw the NF as being too liberal.
The BNP is an actively anti-working class party who have in the past said that the greatest mistake of democracy is that any one is allowed to vote, under the BNP only select people would be allowed to vote. They are also rampantly homophobic and yes they are racist.

You claim that the BNP have no hatred for Muslims yet Charlie 'wee man' Baillie posted a 'poem' on the BNP-Scotland blog calling for the blood of Muslims. You lot are contradicting yourselves.

I myself have many friends who are either in the armed forces or are ex-forces. Also both my grandfathers were in the armed forces, like many many others, during world war II and fought valiantly against the forces of fascism which are represented today by the BNP. You lost the second world war now please lay down and die.

The BNP in my opinion have the right to free speech and to sell their papers on the streets. However those people who don't forget the lessons of the past also have the right to continue the fight against fascism that began in the early decades of the twentieth century. You are not wanted in Glasgow, Scotland or anywhere else in this country.

The entry on your parties blog claims that only John McGuire was brought in from outside Glasgow yet who was that sporting the trendy bobblehat on Saturday but John Robertson? Now John Robertson is the Highlands and Islands organizer of your grouplet isn't he? What's he doing living in Glasgow if he is supposed to be organizing the H+I?

You claim that the BNP want to improve the lives of British people by stopping mass immigration. How would this improve our lives? Britain is a nation that was built on migration, the NHS would have crumbled a long time ago if it wasn't for foreign workers.

To really improve the lives of people we have to get rid of rich scum bags like your chairman who live on the backs of decent working people. There is enough to go around once we get rid of the rich.

Oh and here's a little bit of history for you Aberdeen BNP. Your hero, Adolf, once said that the only way they(German National Socialist Party) could have been stopped was if their enemies had recognized them for what they were and smashed them in their infancy.

We recognize you.

Hugs and kisses

Miserablist

First thanks for putting your points over in a none aggressive manner, I will try and answer them as someone who was a BNP member last year and as someone who is not allowed to rejoin because I support the leadership challenge that if successful will make the BNP more democratic and moderate.

Yes the BNP did form after some people left the NF, but that was because the NF was and is too rightwing.

The BNP are anti globalist, and if you look at the policies of the BNP they lean toward socialism, we believe in workers getting a fair deal and not the rich getting richer off of the backs of the workers, so snap it seems we agree on something.

I make no apologies for not wanting to see Scotland Islamified. The BNP do not have a problem with law abiding Muslims that do not wish to change our country into an Islamic one. I suggest you take a look at what’s happening around Europe and indeed in Iraq where thousands of Iraqi Christians (Assyrians) are being ethnically cleansed.

I was in the Armed forces,11 years my friends still are. my father and all my uncles fought in WW2 against the Nazis, as did my Grandfather in WW1, as far as I am aware we did win the war and managed to keep Britain free from tyranny, we protected free speech and a homeland for our children. All of these are now at risk by the ever growing threat of the EU and mass immigration.


The Poem was not C Baillies, it was Robert the Bruce, how Ironic that a poem that was penned over 700 years ago resonates so loudly today.

You say the BNP is not wanted in Scotland, I can then take it you agree that your Marxist Socialist parties that were behind the BNP in regards votes at the last election are definitely not wanted in Scotland. Especially as the true image of the BNP is getting out to the public.

Now speaking of Image I agree that everything that the BNP has done has not been rosy, but lets just have a look at the SNP who DID support Hitler during WW" and who thought they had good ideas ref the Jewish people. The SNP actively encouraged Scottish people to be
I enclose a link for you to browse.
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1749995.ece

I hope to see your fellow lefties vent your fury at Mr Salmond in future.

You say Britain was built on immigration, I think if you look at any photograph from 50 years ago it blows that Myth out of the water. The BNP also has no problem with selective Immigration as long as it does not mean someone missing out on a job, a house, or making our island too over crowded. We should be getting our own work-shy doing jobs not raiding countries that badly need there nurses working at home such as Nigeria. Perhaps your conscience rests easy with Britain depriving third world countries of essential staff.

If you look at the Scottish BNP website you will see there are two John Robertson’s in the Scottish BNP one in Glasgow and one in Gordon, the one in Gordon even has a nice picture. The One in Gordon is yet another ex serviceman with 22 years service in both the RAF and Army.

And Adolf is not my hero anymore than Nick Griffin is, what I am proud of is my nation and way of life, I just wish to protect my homeland and way of life for my children, something I would support of all other nations around the world.

Do you as a socialist respect the rights of, lets say the Peruvians to there way of life, culture and the right to live amongst there own people if they wish. Or should they just shut up and have mass immigration and different cultures swamp there nation and turn it into something not recognisable, from that of today.

I agree that the BNP have, not done everything correctly and we have still got the odd bad egg hanging around, but the party is evolving, I for one support Israel’s right to have its own nation, I suspect you will support the Palestinians, but then that’s why we have political opponents.

I agree with you that people should have free speech, I would never try and stop socialists, Marxists from selling there wares of getting there point of view across.
If you have to resort to mob behaviour, you really have lost the argument.

Some of the comments on various forums from the Leftists leave a lot to be desired, threats of violence and broken teeth, to Nazi scum, smacks of desperation and hysteria. Perhaps if you bother to speak to members of the New BNP, rather than shout and scream, you may realise we have genuine concerns about where our nation is headed, I joined the BNP out of fear, not because of hate toward anyone.

I do fear our nation heading down an Islamic path, or heading into third world status unable to feed ourselves due to mass immigration.

Fear not hate. And a love for what we had as a nation 30 years ago, and yes that did include a reasonable percentage of Immigrants, just not enough to change our way of life, culture, and tradition.

First thanks for putting your points over in a none aggressive manner, I will try and answer them as someone who was a BNP member last year and as someone who is not allowed to rejoin because I support the leadership challenge that if successful will make the BNP more democratic and moderate.

Yes the BNP did form after some people left the NF, but that was because the NF was and is too rightwing.

The BNP are anti globalist, and if you look at the policies of the BNP they lean toward socialism, we believe in workers getting a fair deal and not the rich getting richer off of the backs of the workers, so snap it seems we agree on something.

I make no apologies for not wanting to see Scotland Islamified. The BNP do not have a problem with law abiding Muslims that do not wish to change our country into an Islamic one. I suggest you take a look at what’s happening around Europe and indeed in Iraq where thousands of Iraqi Christians (Assyrians) are being ethnically cleansed.

I was in the Armed forces,11 years my friends still are. my father and all my uncles fought in WW2 against the Nazis, as did my Grandfather in WW1, as far as I am aware we did win the war and managed to keep Britain free from tyranny, we protected free speech and a homeland for our children. All of these are now at risk by the ever growing threat of the EU and mass immigration.


The Poem was not C Baillies, it was Robert the Bruce, how Ironic that a poem that was penned over 700 years ago resonates so loudly today.

You say the BNP is not wanted in Scotland, I can then take it you agree that your Marxist Socialist parties that were behind the BNP in regards votes at the last election are definitely not wanted in Scotland. Especially as the true image of the BNP is getting out to the public.

Now speaking of Image I agree that everything that the BNP has done has not been rosy, but lets just have a look at the SNP who DID support Hitler during WW2" and who thought they had good ideas ref the Jewish people. The SNP actively encouraged Scottish people to be pascifists
I enclose a link for you to browse.
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1749995.ece

I hope to see your fellow lefties vent your fury at Mr Salmond in future.

You say Britain was built on immigration, I think if you look at any photograph from 50 years ago it blows that Myth out of the water. The BNP also has no problem with selective Immigration as long as it does not mean someone missing out on a job, a house, or making our island too over crowded. We should be getting our own work-shy doing jobs not raiding countries that badly need there nurses working at home such as Nigeria. Perhaps your conscience rests easy with Britain depriving third world countries of essential staff.

If you look at the Scottish BNP website you will see there are two John Robertson’s in the Scottish BNP one in Glasgow and one in Gordon, the one in Gordon even has a nice picture. The One in Gordon is yet another ex serviceman with 22 years service in both the RAF and Army.

And Adolf is not my hero anymore than Nick Griffin is, what I am proud of is my nation and way of life, I just wish to protect my homeland and way of life for my children, something I would support of all other nations around the world.

Do you as a socialist respect the rights of, lets say the Peruvians to there way of life, culture and the right to live amongst there own people if they wish. Or should they just shut up and have mass immigration and different cultures swamp there nation and turn it into something not recognisable, from that of today.

I agree that the BNP have, not done everything correctly and we have still got the odd bad egg hanging around, but the party is evolving, I for one support Israel’s right to have its own nation, I suspect you will support the Palestinians, but then that’s why we have political opponents.

I agree with you that people should have free speech, I would never try and stop socialists, Marxists from selling there wares of getting there point of view across.
If you have to resort to mob behaviour, you really have lost the argument.

Some of the comments on various forums from the Leftists leave a lot to be desired, threats of violence and broken teeth, to Nazi scum, smacks of desperation and hysteria. Perhaps if you bother to speak to members of the New BNP, rather than shout and scream, you may realise we have genuine concerns about where our nation is headed, I joined the BNP out of fear, not because of hate toward anyone.

I do fear our nation heading down an Islamic path, or heading into third world status unable to feed ourselves due to mass immigration.

Fear not hate. And a love for what we had as a nation 30 years ago, and yes that did include a reasonable percentage of Immigrants, just not enough to change our way of life, culture, and tradition.

* there is no common ground between socialists and fascists.
* Fascism stands for state-run unions, you are scabs.
* a "moderate and democratic" BNP?
* have you ever *met* a Scottish muslim?
* 50 years ago, your lot were stoking up fear against the Irish. Dark threats of the Catholicisation of Scotland
* Scotland's population is declining. We *need* immigration and I welcome it.

Really, fuck off trying to appear reasonable. You "fear islamification"? You love fear, you thrive on building fear. People that work together to take control of their communities aren't fearful, that's why your lot hate working class communities and want to keep people divided and weak, so you can tell them they need a strong leader.

We don't need leaders and we don't need lying snakes trying to convince us that our neighbour or our workmate is our enemy.

...I expect "New BNP" to be every bit as anti-working class as New Labour. Slicker suits, different lies, same neo-liberal, anti-human bullshit.

In response to 'Aberdeen BNP' or x BNP or whatever you are.
You failed to tackle the final point of miserablists post:

"the only way they(German National Socialist Party) could have been stopped was if their enemies had recognized them for what they were and smashed them in their infancy. "

Lots of the big ugly looking guys in suits in your party are ex street fighting fascists that have gone respectable as a tactic, not because they have gone liberal but because the believe this is the way to instal national socialism upon Britain. (and the got their arses kicked in the 80s/90s...) Just as the Nazis did in Germany the plan is mislead a nation down a dark path towards fascism. This will not be tolerated and it will be resisted both on the streets ie using physical confrontation and also in the propaganda wars that must be fought.

And to address another point you gone on alot about 'you marxists/communists/anarchists'. Get one thing straight i hate communists n Marxists as much as you lot. As an anarchist i beleive in no borders and freedom of movement for all. Forget Palestines "right" to have a state thats whats caused the conflict (and numerous others) in the first place. The solution is a stateless one. Please do a little research in to anarchism before you make such comments because it makes you look like an idiot. Because we know exactly what national socialism looks like even if its being hidden.

The BNP will be fought on every level.

OK first off, just so we know where we stand I am not in any Marxist socialist party. Whilst I think Marx's economic analysis of capitalism is spot on I wouldn't trust the left any more than I would trust the right with power.

At the time of the split with the NF the NF was down playing the Hitler worshipping elements of its credo. This stuck in Tyndalls craw somewhat and is a lot of what caused the break away. The introduction of Griffinism(?) saw the party attempt to cover up it's fascist roots and attempt to appear as a respectable political party. This is true to the roots of fascisms tactics. In the 1930's both the German and the original Italian Fascists used leftist terminology to mask their true nature, even cosying up to the unions and having a left wing of its party until the night of the long knives in Germany. Also see Oswald Moselys British Union of Fascists which was modelled along Syndicalist lines, something the BNP would like to imitate with it's shambolic Solidarity union.

The BNP are, despite their rhetoric, anti-working class. Like all fascist groups they believe in the superiority of the upper classes and would not allow the vote to the working class.

I am not a fan of Islam, nor am I a fan of Christianity or Judaism. However I have no problem with people following whatever wacky superstitions they want. The UK is not being Islamified but it is diversifying which is a good thing for a culture. Without the constant comings and going and intermingling of different cultures our own culture would atrophy and die. Stagnation of the cultural gene pool if you will.

The UK has always been a melting pot of different races and cultures going all the way back to the bronze age if not before. Way back when the Cornish would trade with sailors from the middle east and when the Romans invaded they described certain tribes in the south as being dark skinned. For an Italian to describe a people as dark skinned I would think they would have to be Middle Eastern or African in origin.

Scotland itself is a mass of different cultures what with the mix of Norse, Irish, Welsh (Glasgow area) and indigenous Picts and Scots and has benefited greatly from it.

The thing is that the second world war was fought against the fascists who had support in this country. The BNP can trace its routes back directly to that support.

The poem posted by C Baillie was from an address given by the Bruce at the Battle of Bannockburn which was a fight for Scots independence and freedom from English rule. This is something that does not tie in with the BNPs schemes.

The BNP are not wanted in Scotland and even in England then any votes they have won this time around are only protest votes and will not be repeated. Like I said I'm not a part of any party and I don't believe that the problems of the working class will be solved by legislation or through any parliamentary means. I would no more trust the SSP, SWP or Tommy 'the grass' Sheridan's wanky solidarity party with even a modicum of power than I would the far right.

I agree that the SNP are pretty vile.

If you look at a picture of Britain from 50 years ago you would find a fairly multicultural society even then. It is only natural; that as means of transportation increase in speed, safety and efficiency then people will move around the world a whole lot more. This can be seen by the million people who were missing from the last census as they are working elsewhere in the world.

By the by did you know that back in the 1800's Scotland was captained to victory over England by a black immigrant?

If we can work together as a class then we can not only take power away from the greedy rich but share out the work that needs doing more evenly and reduce the amount each of us needs to do. There are plentiful resources in britain but the ridiculous mode of production used by capitalism is extremely wasteful and much work is unnecessary.

The guy with the bobblehat was the H+I organizer, I'd recognize his ugly mug anywhere.

As an Anarchist-Communist I support the free movement of all people around the world. The planet is at once amazingly big yet amazingly small. It belongs to all of us by right of birth. National borders and distinctions drawn up between people on national lines are false. We have amazing potential as a species to move beyond this small blue rock and explore the wider galaxy. That will never happen whilst we bicker about who owns or has more right to a piece of soil and kill one another over pieces of cloth.

Actually should the BNP ever, no matter how unlikely it is, manage to get into power they will indeed round up people of differing political ideologies. Par for the course with any fascist group. And yes the same goes for Stalinists too.

Actually broken teeth and violence is the proscribed remedy for Fascism. Even old Adolf agrees with us on that one. The reason for the BNP's change from street politics to 'respectable' politics is precisely because the BNP, NF et al got beaten off the streets by militant anti-fascists throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's.
If you joined the BNP out of fear of your way of life being eroded then you were sadly mistaken. Like I have said elsewhere migration is a good thing for our culture and has been an ever present part of British culture. Any fear you have felt is the sort that is peddled not only by the BNP but by the main stream political parties and media. They seek to keep the working class divided and on it knees. The working class is international in its nature and that is one of its strengths.

“I do fear our nation heading down an Islamic path, or heading into third world status unable to feed ourselves due to mass immigration. “

This is not going to happen, whilst there are a lot of Muslims in the UK there are also a hell of a lot of people of all colours who follow no faith or only pay lip service to the one their familiy traditionally follows.

“Fear not hate. And a love for what we had as a nation 30 years ago, and yes that did include a reasonable percentage of Immigrants, just not enough to change our way of life, culture, and tradition.”

These are the same things that were being said by fascists 30 years ago about the wave of immigration from the Caribbean and from the east.

You keep saying you love your nation and want to preserve it from Islam. Which nation are you refering to ? Scotland ? Scotland is a net exporter of people. There are more Scots who live abroad than foriegners living here. The vast majority of immigrants here are white, northern europeans who aren't planning on staying.

I looked at your Times link because I was hoping to have some ammo against the SNP, but it looks pretty weak. "The situation was difficult because the SNP chairman, Andrew Dewar Gibb, was a crypto-fascist who thought Hitler had some sound ideas about the Jews. In this, he was out of step with his more left-leaning colleagues. Most supported the war but there were also a number of pacifists and arch-qualifiers."

That's the strongest it gets. He was replaced as leader in the year he was elected, 1940, presumably because the rest of them were left-leaning The SNP opponents of the war were mostly pacifists, but remember Eire remained neutral and not because it was sympathetic to fascism, but because it couldn't risk supporting the British Empire.

Why are you so shy to link to your blog just to introduce yourself better ?



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Rather than regurgitating the same sentiments in regards to my views on the obvious hypocrisy and selective reasoning of the liberal mindset, as evidenced in this discussion, I'll simply refer you to a recently composed essay of mine which effectively sums up my opinion of the liberal opinion on the subject of Nationalism and Nationalist activity.

Read the essay entitled 'an open letter to the liberal fascisti' here:  http://blog.britishnationalism.org/?p=14#more-14

Regards,

Brendan.
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-Britnat

So the fascist police of this repressive bourgeois globalist state think they have gained a victory over the representatives of the working class do they?

Some hope, the Progressive Peoples Vanguard will be back on the streets taking on the middle class statists and their running dog lumpenproletariat police lackeys.

Victory to the working class!

Down with the Red Fascists!

I love the previous commenter to insinuates that the only reason the BNP put on suits was because they had been "beaten off the streets"... LMAO

By the time the late 90s came around there was barely any "antis" left to fight, most had either graduated from whatever university they had been wasting mummy and dads money at and had moved on to begin paying taxes, or they had gotten their arses kicked by the likes of the {admittedly psychotic} C18.

The BNP reversed the street fighting ideals for a much better reason, because when the reds won, the BNP did badly in elections. And when the nationalists won the fights the BNP did badly in elections.

Im just amazed that it took the BNP so many years to figure it out. You can be street fighters OR legitimate political figures, but not both.

In the 80s and early 90s the "squadists" and other violent thugs beat up the BNP from pillar to post. Yet far left groups still did just as badly in elections as ever.