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911 Cultist and UCL Research Fellow in Holocaust Denial Shame

riotact | 18.04.2008 20:03 | Education | London

The dark side of conspiracy theory has been exposed this week with the news that prominent 911 'truth' activist and UCL Research Fellow, Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom is a committed holocaust revisionist who has published many articles online detailing his warped views on the holocaust (1).

Dr Kollerstrom claims:

“As surprising as it may sound, the only intentional mass extermination program in the concentration camps of WW2 was targeted at Germans. From April, 1945 five million Germans were rounded up after surrendering, and deliberately starved until well over one million had died” (2)

as well as:

“Let us hope the schoolchildren visitors are properly taught about the elegant swimming-pool at Auschwitz, built by the inmates, who would sunbathe there on Saturday and Sunday afternoons while watching the water-polo matches; and shown the paintings from its art class, which still exist; and told about the camp library which had some forty-five thousand volumes for inmates to choose from, plus a range of periodicals; and the six camp orchestras at Auschwitz/Birkenau, its the theatrical performances, including a children’s opera, the weekly camp cinema, and even the special brothel established there. Let’s hope they are shown postcards written from Auschwitz, some of which still exist, where the postman would collect the mail twice-weekly.” (3)

Dr Kollerstrom regularly uses his PhD when publishing his views on the holocaust and also posts on internet forums under the name astro3.

The nineeleven truth forums (4) are currently deleting threads as quickly as people can post them showing their real attitude to the truth. What has become clear is that Kollerstrum is not the only so called truth activist who shares these opinions.

More worryingly Dr Kollerstrum is a Research Fellow at the prestigious University College London which has a Holocaust History department.

UCL have been contacted to warn them about the insiduous views they have in their midst (5). Their media team can be contacted at  d.fourniol@ucl.ac.uk and the head of the Holocaust department can be reached at  g.paizis@ucl.ac.uk.

(1)  http://www.blairwatch.co.uk/node/2014
(2)  http://codoh.com/newrevoices/nrillusion.html
(3)  http://codoh.com/newrevoices/nrnktrip.html
(4)  http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/index.php
(5)  http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/dear-ucl/

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Honorary no more!

23.04.2008 22:09

Just thought I'd update this thread as Dr Kollerstrom's Honorary Research Fellowship has been terminated by UCL.

Here is the statement from UCL.....

Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom
22 April 2008

UCL has been made aware of views expressed by Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom, an Honorary Research Fellow in UCL Science & Technology Studies.

The position of Honorary Research Fellow is a privilege bestowed by departments within UCL on researchers with whom it wishes to have an association. It is not an employed position.

The views expressed by Dr Kollerstrom are diametrically opposed to the aims, objectives and ethos of UCL, such that we wish to have absolutely no association with them or with their originator.

We therefore have no choice but to terminate Dr Kollerstrom’s Honorary Research Fellowship with immediate effect.

 http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0804/08042202

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Prominent?

18.04.2008 21:03

Never heard of him, but thanks for pointing him out. nineeleven.co.uk has been a disgrace for a long time and clearly needs a massive cleanup or to be shut down -- it's good that Tony Gosling has finally got around to deleting holocaust denial material (but stupid that he thinks that Mossad is behind it...), but I don't understand why riotact objects to this material being deleted -- it should never been allowed in the first place.

C


This put's "astro3"'s attack on Nafeez Ahmed in context...

18.04.2008 21:34

If you search for astro3 and 9/11 one link that is thrown up is Nico Haupt's blogging [1] of astro3's critical review of Nafeez Ahmed's book, THE LONDON BOMBINGS - AN INDEPENDENT ENQUIRY [2]. Nico Haupt is totally discredited within the 9/11 truth movement for his stalking of other activists and his absurd views that no planes hit the twin towers, he is however promoted by the likes of 9/11 Cultwatch [3] -- promoting the people who discredit the 9/11 truth movement the most is not a new tactic...

The latest talk from Nafeez Ahmed on this site is here and it also has links to previous talks by him:

The Hidden Holocaust - Our Civilizational Crisis
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/01/388961.html


[1]  http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=515
[2]  http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=18419
[3]  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/11/385261.html?c=on#c184026

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Whats the betting

18.04.2008 21:43

that this post wont be promoted on indy unlike the crap thats regularly spouted by the truthers

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interesting use of censorship by indymedia

18.04.2008 22:55

funny that this comment should be hidden

"Whats the betting

18.04.2008 22:43
that this post wont be promoted on indy unlike the crap thats regularly spouted by the truthers

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so is it true that indy has now been infiltrated by the 9/11 nutters

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Please read the Editorial Guidelines

18.04.2008 23:15

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zionists using cointelpro tactics!

19.04.2008 00:29

Why are you a Zionist Islamophobe, riotact? This is disgraceful, total cointelpro tactics against anyone who questions the Zionist version of events.

FREE PALESTINE!!

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antizionist what are u on about, your stirring, this"doctor" needs striking off!

19.04.2008 02:46

I think article is a bit of a smear on the "911" investigating movement which although can be whacky, but comes from Micheal Moore to Alex Jones who isnt fascist onwards., this doc dont represent everyone stop war or 911 investigators.
This so called Doctor seems like a real nutter & should be struck off academic records, shame on UCL & lazy legals, good one for putting emails out
This guy possibly classes himself as part of stop war movement & needs total shunning,

green syndicalist


COINTELPRO INDEED

19.04.2008 07:09

Wonder who put him up to it ...

The architects of 911 are really starting to sweat, as their own ludicrous, disproven Conspiracy Theory falls apart under the weight of the evidence.

911=PNAC, CIA, Mossad


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Its the Jeeeeeeeeeews

19.04.2008 07:52

Comeon Jordan you can do better than that, how about a secret Mossad controlled building company who pre rigged the towers with Thermite or maybe a secret Jewish laser beam from the Israeli embassy, how about Jewish bankers they must have been involved somewhere ?

Please try harder in your anti Semitic slurs or Roy Bard won't let you play here anymore

911 = Jordan Thornton's bathwater


#5 Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

19.04.2008 08:09

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
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Indeed.

19.04.2008 12:08

Youre so right, Twenty-Five Rules - it's clear that the Zionists are responsible for 9/11 and the Iraq war, and now Mossad is cleaning up. We have to watch out for the Zionists in our midst who would discredit us by using fake COINTELPRO tactics like this!

Anti Zionist


10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists

19.04.2008 12:55

(as reposted from Urban75)

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

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Its actually difficult to tell....

19.04.2008 12:57

...whether you conspiracy lunatics are being ironic/sarcastic or whether you're actually being serious. But then again, i'm probably an infiltrating zionist member of MI5 right?

(A)


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Now we know where Indymedia stands

19.04.2008 15:01

By censoring my comment IM have shown that they are Zionist shills themselves. Shame on you for siding with Israel and America against the oppressed, no doubt you want the occupation and genocide of the Palestinain people to continue.

Anti-Zionist


Discussion thread now open on 911 Truth forum

19.04.2008 18:14

There was no intention to stifle debate on this issue - came at a difficult moment as things had gotten out of hand and I was just implementing a policy, discussed behind the scenes, of no discussion of the Holocaust on the forum.

Still, this should be, and is, an exception to that rule.

see also
Mossad trick - Link 9/11 Truth to Holocaust denial
 http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14360

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A Personal Message

19.04.2008 22:09

It has just come to my attention that certain websites have recently attempted to imply that any 'Conspiraloons™' who harbour doubts about the official narratives of 9/11 and 7/7 are almost certainly holocaust deniers as well

This is an outrageous lie and almost certainly libelous

Far too many decent, honourable and principled fascists have sacrificed their reputations, livelihoods and sometimes their personal liberty for me to sit back and witness the good name of Revisionist Holocaust Scholarship being sullied by association with the disgusting cult of Conspiraloonacy™

Whilst it would be impossible to deny that some individual Revisionists may, from time to time, express sceptical opinions about the Official Narrative of 7/7 these views are in no way representative of the majority of contemporary, forward-thinking Nazi sympathisers who continue to maintain a broad-based, irrational hatred of all foreigners and who appreciate that Johnny Darkie almost certainly carried out 7/7 as part of a wider plot to force Britain into the Bolshevik European Union. A union which will be nowhere near as favourable to the Sacred Anglo-Saxon Race as that fought for by our beloved Fuhrer.

Sincerely,

David

D. Irving
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'mossad trick'

19.04.2008 23:18

Any evidence of Mossad involvement Tony?

Anything at all?

builderberk


And the original source of this story is...?

21.04.2008 14:27

Of course it's good that Nick Kollerstrom has been exposed, however the only post, out of 189 [1], the first one being from July 28, 2005, by astro3 (AKA Nick Kollerstrom) on holocaust denial on nineeleven.co.uk is his last one, posted yesterday (Sun April 20, 2008 3:31 pm, and it's fairly grim reading... he clearly is a holocaust denier).

However there have been many other posts on holocaust denial by others on nineeleven.co.uk over many years (which is a disgrace), including a massive thread that has now been hidden, so the question arises why did Johnny Void and Rachel North pick up on Nick Kollerstrom and promote him as being a "mainstay of the 'truth movement'" and a "prominent 911 'truth' activist" when he doesn't appear to be (what evidence is there that he is?) -- most his posts are on 7/7 and why did they do it when they did?

Their source was Blairwatch, who blogged on April 14th, 2008

"We've just found another conspiraloon, Nick Kollerstrom aka astro3, who's been pestering 7/7 survivors as they offer an inconvenient witness against his ludicrous theories. Although he specialises in that ultimate conspiracy theory, crop circles, he's not afraid to take a deep bath in Nazi apologism and Holocaust denial" [2]

Meanwhile over at nineeleven.co.uk Ian Neal has said:

"Nick was recently interviewed for the upcoming conspiracy files programme on July 7... I believe it was last Monday when the interview was recorded. A 'co-incidence' then that Blairwatch 'broke' this story on the same day" [3]

I don't know what the source is for Ian believing that the BBC interviewed Nick Kollerstrom on Monday April 14th, but nobody seems to be denying that this took place and since Nick Kollerstrom's holocaust denial posts (linked to in the article above) have been public for months, "Nick posted on CODOH last year" [3], it does seem odd, to say the least, that the story broke on the day the BBC interviewed him...

Needless to say the linking of people questioning the official story of 9/11 to racists is not new, as Jim Hoffman has pointed out:

"The association of challenges to the official myth of 9/11 with deniers of the Nazi Holocaust of Jews is one of the more potent weapons in the arsenal of the apologists for the official myth" [4]



[1]  http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/search.php?search_author=astro3
[2]  http://www.blairwatch.co.uk/node/2014
[3]  http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=115800#115800
[4]  http://www.911review.com/denial/holocaust.html

C


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Brief comment

21.04.2008 14:46

Wow, sounds like the Holy Sanhedrin is out to get me. Have I been been casting doubt upon their Sacred Dogma? Gosh, I’m scared!

But, what is this about my supposed ‘attack’ upon Nafeez Ahmed? I’d say in recent years there is no British intellectual I admire more, than Nafeez. I recommend all of his books. Surely, my review of his ‘The London Bombings, an Independent Inquiry’ had quite an affectionate tone, didn’t it?* It is I suggest the one book on the July 7th event which you do really need on your shelf. In general, his postings are vital reading for the often bogus construction of ‘Islamic terror’ that we get on the news these days. Let’s hope he soon becomes ‘Dr’ Nafeez, and then his words will carry a bit more clout!

* www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=3341&highlight=

N.Kollerstrom


re. why Monday?

21.04.2008 18:50

''Of course it's good that Nick Kollerstrom has been exposed, however the only post, out of 189 [1], the first one being from July 28, 2005, by astro3 (AKA Nick Kollerstrom) on holocaust denial on nineeleven.co.uk is his last one, posted yesterday (Sun April 20, 2008 3:31 pm, and it's fairly grim reading... he clearly is a holocaust denier).

However there have been many other posts on holocaust denial by others on nineeleven.co.uk over many years (which is a disgrace), including a massive thread that has now been hidden, so the question arises why did Johnny Void and Rachel North pick up on Nick Kollerstrom and promote him as being a "mainstay of the 'truth movement'" and a "prominent 911 'truth' activist" when he doesn't appear to be (what evidence is there that he is?) -- most his posts are on 7/7 and why did they do it when they did?

Their source was Blairwatch, who blogged on April 14th, 2008

"We've just found another conspiraloon, Nick Kollerstrom aka astro3, who's been pestering 7/7 survivors as they offer an inconvenient witness against his ludicrous theories. Although he specialises in that ultimate conspiracy theory, crop circles, he's not afraid to take a deep bath in Nazi apologism and Holocaust denial" [2]

Meanwhile over at nineeleven.co.uk Ian Neal has said:

"Nick was recently interviewed for the upcoming conspiracy files programme on July 7... I believe it was last Monday when the interview was recorded. A 'co-incidence' then that Blairwatch 'broke' this story on the same day" [3]

I don't know what the source is for Ian believing that the BBC interviewed Nick Kollerstrom on Monday April 14th, but nobody seems to be denying that this took place and since Nick Kollerstrom's holocaust denial posts (linked to in the article above) have been public for months, "Nick posted on CODOH last year" [3], it does seem odd, to say the least, that the story broke on the day the BBC interviewed him...''

Well, actually it was because I saw him on Monday at Kingston Crown court for the 7/7 trial, badgering a survivor. Something he has done before.

I was chatting to Blairwatch and mentioned it, they went off and googled him.

Nothing to do with the BBC, Jews, or any great conspiracy.

So there you go.

Rachel
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Thanks Rachel

21.04.2008 19:44

Thanks for clarifying the origin of the impetus for Blairwatch to investigate Nick Kollerstrom and for shining a light on his activities.

I wonder how the BBC will present him, if they use the footage of him in their show...

C


Mainstay Rachel?

22.04.2008 08:20

Rachel, your blog entry is entitled "Nick Kollerstrom, mainstay of the 'truth movement' is a holocaust denier"

Can you expain how he can be seen as a mainstay of the movement please?

thanks

Hierarchivist


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Well we were warned

22.04.2008 12:03

The increasingly desperate 911 and 711 crowd are now happy and welcome here at Indymedia UK so I give it about six months before we have to alter the editorial guidelines to prevent posts about these subjects as the newswire will be groaning under the weight of their half assed, laughably inncaurate, insulting to the intelligence and downright crap ideas.

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Sad PsyOps

22.04.2008 15:19

It's interesting that the real archtects of 911, the Neo-Fascists who used them to start a regional war of aggression, have spent so much time and resources trying to discredit the Movement exposing their LIES, instead of proving their case instead ...

911=PNAC, CIA, Mossad


follow up article

25.04.2008 19:52

riotact posted a further article on this here:  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/397247.html

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Clarification

26.04.2008 15:19

A week last Monday, April the 14, having just watched the Elephant in the Room premiere, I received a call from Tony Gosling to discuss nineeleven.co.uk and he mentioned he had just finished recording a piece with Tristan the producer of the BBC's Conspiracy Files programme on July 7. I thought he said that Nick had been with him but if Rachel says Nick was watching the trial in Kingston then clearly I'm wrong about this. Nick must have recorded his interview previously.

That said I would surprised if Nick would have come to anyone's attention were it not widely known that he had agreed to co-operate with the BBC in the making of this programme. That is not to say the BBC were involved in exposing Nick's beliefs about the holocaust just that the two events are linked, i.e. someone knowing Nick's co-operation with the BBC decided to dig into his cyber footprint.

The other point I would make is that the thread entitled "Understanding 911 -Does The Holocaust Matter?" and referred to in Rachel and Blairwatch's pieces is back in the public domain. Judge for yourself. In doing so you should be aware that several of the posters who crossed the line and broke the forum's rules outlawing racist/anti-semitic content were banned as a result and that many of the most persistent 'holocaust deniers / revisionists / obcessives' were recent arrivals on the site.

Finally it is worth repeating that www.nineeleven.co.uk is what it is (a public forum currently moderated by Tony and those he has appointed). It is not and never has been the British 9/11 Truth Campaign website. The views posted on this forum do not represent the campaign and I and those representing the campaign have consistently rejected racists or racism.

Ian Neal

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Hmmm, doesn't seem to add up...

26.04.2008 20:40

Thanks Ian for answering my question from earlier:

"I don't know what the source is for Ian believing that the BBC interviewed Nick Kollerstrom on Monday April 14th"

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/396964.html?c=on#c194036

In the comment above Ian Neal said:

"That said I would surprised if Nick would have come to anyone's attention were it not widely known that he had agreed to co-operate with the BBC in the making of this programme... someone knowing Nick's co-operation with the BBC decided to dig into his cyber footprint"

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/396964.html?c=on#c194392

However Rachel North said earlier:

"actually it was because I saw him on Monday at Kingston Crown court for the 7/7 trial, badgering a survivor. Something he has done before.

I was chatting to Blairwatch and mentioned it, they went off and googled him."

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/396964.html?c=on#c194060

So Ian, what is the evidence that Blairwatch knew about "Nick's co-operation with the BBC"?

C


Co-incidence?

27.04.2008 13:58

I was guessing, speculating, hypothesising. I think that was fairly clear from what I've posted. So was it a mere co-incidence? Quite probably. Just because I believe in certain conspiracies does not mean I don't also believe that co-incidences and cock-ups also happen.

Ian Neal


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