Shell ditched as sponsor of Wildlife Photographer Exhibition due to protest
David Rose | 29.01.2008 14:41 | Climate Camp 2007 | Climate Chaos
Shell's two year tenure as sponsor of the Natural History Museum's ¡Wildlife Photographer of the Year¢ exhibition has come to an end. A determined, creative two year national campaign, coordinated in part by the direct action group Rising Tide and its Art Not Oil (1) campaign, helped to force the NHM to ditch Shell. In Bristol, as well as the local Rising Tide group, People and Plane and FoEt were also heavily involved in the protests
SHELL DITCHED AS SPONSOR OF WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHER EXHIBITION IN FACE OF WIDESPREAD PROTEST
Shell's two year tenure as sponsor of the Natural History Museum's ¡Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition has come to an end. A determined, creative two year national campaign, coordinated in part by the direct action group Rising Tide and its Art Not Oil (1) campaign, helped to force the NHM to ditch Shell. In Bristol, People and Planet were also heavily involved in the protests
Using a combination of creative direct action (2) and a ¡Shell's Wild Lie exhibition (3), Rising Tide has been pressurising the Museum and partner BBC Wildlife magazine to acknowledge that one of the world¢s largest oil companies is not a good sponsor for an exhibition that has become a powerful testament to the beauty, diversity and fragility of the natural world.(4)
This campaign, and the significant public pressure it mobilised, has now paid off.
In Bristol, several protests took place. This includeda polar bear die-in at the museum and a visit to BBC Wildlife Magazine offices.
Mr P.Bear of Bristol Rising Tide: said "The people of Bristol should be proud that they have helped stop this particluarly noxious piece of greenwash from happening.
London Rising Tide's Sam Chase said: ¡We are delighted that the Natural History Museum has seen sense and bid farewell to Shell in what must rank as the most absurd and appalling sponsorship deal ever seen. Now it's time for the Museum to turn down cash from climate-destroying companies like BP, BA and Shell (5), and for cultural institutions across London and the UK to do the same.
¡The oil industry is destroying our future, as well as the lives and of countless living beings right now. For that reason, and because this victory has shown what climatically conscious grassroots art can achieve, we will be keeping up the pressure with our Art Not Oil campaign.
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Contact:
info@artnotoil.org.uk, 07708 794 665
Notes to editors:
1) Now in its fifth year, Art Not Oil stands for ¡creativity, climate justice and an end to oil industry sponsorship of arts and culture¢. It has acted as a beacon for artists worldwide who are committed to using their creativity positively, and is a hub for protest against the oil industry greenwashing its image by appropriating UK cultural institutions. Its 2008 online gallery is now open for submissions: www.artnotoil.org,uk
2) Over the past year protests have taken place at (print quality copies of the photos below are available on request):
Natural History Museum, October 2007:
http://risingtide.org.uk/node/231 and January 2008: http://www.planestupid.com/?q=content/march-penguins-climate-activists-protest-british-airways-ice-rink
BBC Wildlife Magazine HQ, Bristol, December 2007: http://bristol.indymedia.org/newswire.php?story_id=27160
Bristol Museum, December 2007: http://onthelevelblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/direct-action-in-bristol-reveals-shells-greenwash/
Tate Britain, January 2008: http://www.londonrisingtide.org.uk/node/409
3) The ¡Shell¢s Wild Lie¢ exhibition will tour the UK and Europe through 2008 and beyond. http://www.artnotoil.org.uk/gallery/v/Shell/
4) 'Shell: the evidence': http://www.artnotoil.org.uk//content/view/23/2/
5) Both Shell and BP are Corporate Members of the NHM, donating £25,000 or more per year. BA gives £10,000 per year. Current Prime Minister-appointed NHM Trustees include Louise Charlton of Brunswick Group, the public relations firm contracted in 2004 by Shell to carry out PR damage limitation in the wake of its reserves-reporting scandal, and Sir William Castell, non-executive director of BP. Conflicts of interest like these are rife right across the UK¢s leading cultural institution.
6) Friends of the Earth has also been running a campaign against the Shell deal:
http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/corporates/press_for_change/wildlife_photographer/index.html
Shell's two year tenure as sponsor of the Natural History Museum's ¡Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition has come to an end. A determined, creative two year national campaign, coordinated in part by the direct action group Rising Tide and its Art Not Oil (1) campaign, helped to force the NHM to ditch Shell. In Bristol, People and Planet were also heavily involved in the protests
Using a combination of creative direct action (2) and a ¡Shell's Wild Lie exhibition (3), Rising Tide has been pressurising the Museum and partner BBC Wildlife magazine to acknowledge that one of the world¢s largest oil companies is not a good sponsor for an exhibition that has become a powerful testament to the beauty, diversity and fragility of the natural world.(4)
This campaign, and the significant public pressure it mobilised, has now paid off.
In Bristol, several protests took place. This includeda polar bear die-in at the museum and a visit to BBC Wildlife Magazine offices.
Mr P.Bear of Bristol Rising Tide: said "The people of Bristol should be proud that they have helped stop this particluarly noxious piece of greenwash from happening.
London Rising Tide's Sam Chase said: ¡We are delighted that the Natural History Museum has seen sense and bid farewell to Shell in what must rank as the most absurd and appalling sponsorship deal ever seen. Now it's time for the Museum to turn down cash from climate-destroying companies like BP, BA and Shell (5), and for cultural institutions across London and the UK to do the same.
¡The oil industry is destroying our future, as well as the lives and of countless living beings right now. For that reason, and because this victory has shown what climatically conscious grassroots art can achieve, we will be keeping up the pressure with our Art Not Oil campaign.
[Ends]
Contact:
info@artnotoil.org.uk, 07708 794 665 Notes to editors:
1) Now in its fifth year, Art Not Oil stands for ¡creativity, climate justice and an end to oil industry sponsorship of arts and culture¢. It has acted as a beacon for artists worldwide who are committed to using their creativity positively, and is a hub for protest against the oil industry greenwashing its image by appropriating UK cultural institutions. Its 2008 online gallery is now open for submissions: www.artnotoil.org,uk
2) Over the past year protests have taken place at (print quality copies of the photos below are available on request):
Natural History Museum, October 2007:
http://risingtide.org.uk/node/231 and January 2008: http://www.planestupid.com/?q=content/march-penguins-climate-activists-protest-british-airways-ice-rink BBC Wildlife Magazine HQ, Bristol, December 2007:
http://bristol.indymedia.org/newswire.php?story_id=27160 Bristol Museum, December 2007:
http://onthelevelblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/direct-action-in-bristol-reveals-shells-greenwash/ Tate Britain, January 2008:
http://www.londonrisingtide.org.uk/node/409 3) The ¡Shell¢s Wild Lie¢ exhibition will tour the UK and Europe through 2008 and beyond.
http://www.artnotoil.org.uk/gallery/v/Shell/ 4) 'Shell: the evidence':
http://www.artnotoil.org.uk//content/view/23/2/ 5) Both Shell and BP are Corporate Members of the NHM, donating £25,000 or more per year. BA gives £10,000 per year. Current Prime Minister-appointed NHM Trustees include Louise Charlton of Brunswick Group, the public relations firm contracted in 2004 by Shell to carry out PR damage limitation in the wake of its reserves-reporting scandal, and Sir William Castell, non-executive director of BP. Conflicts of interest like these are rife right across the UK¢s leading cultural institution.
6) Friends of the Earth has also been running a campaign against the Shell deal:
http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/corporates/press_for_change/wildlife_photographer/index.html
David Rose
e-mail:
daviddoesbristol@googlemail.com
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Blowing own trumpet department
29.01.2008 15:32
This was a two year sponsership deal which has now come to an end. So in fact the actions of the various group involved did not stop the deal or shorten it.
There is little point in claiming credit for something when it is patently obvious that the campaign did not achieve what it set out to. This is up there with claims of "200 000 people on the demo" when it was nothing like that. The Shell campaign was well thought out, well executed and well planned but it failed to achieve one of its key aims. Better to acknowledge that. learn from it and move on.
Bix
But it's not renewed, is it?
29.01.2008 15:58
Was it ever likely that such a short-term sponsorship deal would be ended before the 2 years?
Look at how long other corporate art sponsorship programmes like BP or the Whitbread-now-Costa have lasted. Short contracts are probably the norm, but the companies are looking to "build a relationship", long-term, to the extent that the two brands become nearly synonymous (witness the Mercury Music Prize, or the Man Booker Prize", names outlasting the deal or even the company).
So when Shell realise that to continue with this deal makes them look hypocritical to the casual observer, they don't renew but quietly walk away at the end of the contract. And that image damage is as a result of the campaigning by RT and others.
That is a victory and I'll help Rising Tide blow their trumpet on this one.
xiB
No problem
29.01.2008 16:21
One final thing take a look at the Shell website for the period when this was announced, it was a two year deal, it was always going to be a two year deal because that is what Shell does. The only and only exception in the past 15 years of corporate sponsorship that Shell extended was their deal with Ferrari in Formula 1.
But like I said claim it as a victory if that makes you feel better.
Bix
Great to hear
29.01.2008 16:23
Now that they've decided to shun Shell from renewing the contract, it's also likely they won't go for such big climate criminals next time. That is more of a positive sign in my opinion because it means another oil company won't get in there either (like they might of) and they probably aren't interested at all after the campaign!
I can imagine Shell were waiting for that expiry date to come. as well as the museum...
Great work
In the real world
29.01.2008 16:33
Reality = Shell's two year deal to sponsor exhibition comes to an end. New head of Marketing at Shell decides to spend money on motorsports advertising so doesn't renew deal.
Realism check
David Rose Is Banned On Bristol Indymedia
29.01.2008 22:10
Warning : IP Logging May Be Switched On!
information
Victory!
29.01.2008 22:30
'Bix' and 'reality check', what the fuck have you done to make a difference this year - oh, except for sit behind your PC in shell company HQ, or Scotland Yard trying to dampen the spirit of a re-emerging eco direct action movement.
Well done again folks!
(A) Sab x
Shell info
30.01.2008 08:26
The myth of the oil "running out" is a well worn tactic by the oil companies that has been used eight times in history and has worked every time. Shell is sitting on trillions of barrels in its US fields which they in agreement with the US government will not drill because they want the Middle East oil used first, the Saudis don't care because they have even more but the Iranians are not folled which is why they are developing nuclear generation to slow their oil use domesticly.
don't trust Shell
world oil reserves
30.01.2008 10:01
The World Oil Forum has pushed the US government for years to relase the real figures but the major oil companies now get around this by declaring fields to be "theoretical and non proven" so they are not included in true reserves.
Prof Robert Engler made a number of calculations based on exploration - sucess ratios and an assumption of oil demand doubling by 2012 and calculated that current reserves both declared and undeclared equate to nearly 300 years worth however the crucial thing is that for the final 140 years almost 100% of the world's oil will come from either Saudi Arabia or North America. In 2005 Exxon CEO Lee Raymond was said to have called these figures, "about right".
None of this takes into account non found fields, the Artic region for example probably has more oil under it than the entire current fields already found but the challenges of getting it are formidible.
oil info
Shell stuff
30.01.2008 12:28
Many are now aware of Margeret Thatchers role in creating the story of Carbon influenced climate change but the web could well be wider than just politicians.
rik
I've been unfairly excluded from activism!
31.01.2008 13:21
If anyone can do anything to resolve this crazy situation, please get in touch. My exclusion is really
unfair and wrong!
David Rose
Direct Action Works
31.01.2008 19:32
David Rose
Clarification re Bristol situation
01.02.2008 00:21
Rose has been banned from attending Bristol RT meets due to his persistent 15 month harassment campaign of a female activist. This has included the sending of countless emails to her, copied to many others; and multiple texts to her, sometimes as many as 40 a day. All these profess the delusional, pathetic obsessions of a forty-something male who has been rejected by a female.
Bristol Indymedia are currently trying to block his repeated posts to the newswire, and calendar, on the same subject. Rose also faces a potential ban from the Bristol social centre 'kebele', and it is believed he has been excluded from other climate & activist lists & events, for the same reason.
You are advised not to engage with Rose, nor involve him in any activities requiring a degree of confidence, as his paranoid behaviour makes him a serious security list.
Rose has not been 'effectively banned' from activism in Bristol, nobody has the power to do that, nor should they. After all activism does not require involvement in a specific group, it is a state of mind and self-activity. Rose however precludes himself from activism by his adoption of the 'victim mentality' typical of abusers, and by his ongoing harassment of the female - today, and every day.
Be warned, stay away from Rose.
Bristol activist (not Rising Tide)
re: Clarification re: Bristol situation
01.02.2008 01:46
Yes, I have been sending many emails to groups like Bristol Rising Tide, Climate Camp etc. These emails are requests that they end their exclusion of me, so I can be an activist on the issue of Climate Change.
If everyone was excluded from society for sending people who have rejected them in love some text messages, I suspect there wouldn't be many people left in society! I'm not a perfect person and I would suggest that 'Bristol activist' is not a perfect person either and has no right to judge me as they do. I'm just another human being like everyone else and nobody like being rejected.
If 'Bristol activist' you tell the world that I am: 'delusional', 'pathetic', 'paranoid',
'a serious security risk', that I have a 'victim mentality' and that other activists should 'stay away from Rose', then you are effectively banning me from activism in Bristol.
All that I have done wrong was to send some text messages to someone who had rejected me in love. That I have ended up being excluded from groups like Rising Tide and Climate Camp is a crazy over reaction and my exclusion should be ended.
There are more serious issues at stake here 'Bristol activist', like Climate Change! (I notice you do not have the courage to use your real name). Excluding me from activism in Bristol for sending someone some text messages is wrong. I present no real threat or risk to anyone's safety or security or the security of any group.
My exclusion from Rising Tide and Climate Camp is wrong and it should be ended.
love to all the activists of Bristol x
David Rose
Give it a rest for a bit maybe?
01.02.2008 13:58
I once had a stalker with aspergers syndrome..
oi RIk
01.02.2008 14:10
Given their hatred of environmental causes, and past form pimping for corporations, I hope the "small group" you refer to have got some better information than that because frankly it sounds like a new hobby for 911-truthers.
What's more likely, that Thatcher, a chemist by trade, understood the science early on and recognised the dangers? Or that she was part of a NWO-style conspiracy to hold back human progress?
CH
For CG re Thatcher
02.02.2008 09:58
The info we have so far is that this started during the miners strike, Thatcher needed to talk up nuclear power which at the time was disliked by the majority of the population. Conservative central office looked at a number of ways that coal could be slagged off and nuclear made to shine. At the same time she was under pressure from BP who were seeing their share price fall because of the new fields being found at the revised oil exploration techniques which allowed fields to release nearly 90% of their oil compared to the old 40%.
The enviroment was chosen as the unlikely target, Imperial College and the Met Office had already seen the begining of solar influenced climate change and so the whole myth of carbon driven climate change started. Now of course to question this theory is near heresy and anybody who does so is persona non grata as far as the UK activist community is concerned hence this group keeps a low profile and makes little fuss.
Hope this helps
rik
rik
Injustice
08.02.2008 00:54
from:
to: David Rose
date: 8 Feb 2008 00:26
subject: Decision from Kebele
David,
it is with some regret that I write to advise you that at the Kebele co-op
meeting on Tuesday 5 February, we decided that you are not welcome in
Kebele social centre at any event.
I say 'regret' because we do not like to exclude people, especially as our
aim is to make Kebele as inclusive as possible - a place where all are
welcome. However this means that we are creating a space where people feel
safe, respected, and accepted, and in order to do that we acknowledge that
certain behaviours are not conducive to creating such as space.
We find that your behaviour towards Ms Hall, in the form & content of
multiple emails & texts, along with your posts to newswires and your
widespread distribution of emails all pertaining to Ms Hall, are not
acceptable, and are detrimental to both her wellbeing and the positive
functioning of various activist groups and projects.
Therefore do not attempt to attend any events at the Kebele social centre,
as you will be asked to leave.
We are informing Ms Hall of this decision, and communicating it to a
Bristol Indymedia collective member, but apart from that we have no wish
to discuss the matter publicly. We will not enter into prolonged dialogue
with you about our decision, but I will respond to 1 email only if you
choose to respond. Any future emails will not be opened. If you choose to
make this a public matter we will of course confirm our decision robustly.
We will review our decision in 1 years time, in February 2009, taking into
account your behaviours towards Ms Hall, and others where applicable, in
the intervening period.
Tim
(for Kebele)
David Rose
Hypocrisy Beyond Belief
08.02.2008 12:43
From: Claire Hall
to:
cc:
date: 27 Jan 2008 13:19
David,
Until a time when you demonstrate that you are taking responsibility
for your own actions and choices then I do not want any process of
mediation with you. This situation can not be sorted by us meeting up
for a coffee.
While I appreciate that being excluded from certain processes has been
difficult for you, you have decided to partially blame me for the way
you choose to respond. This is not fair. It is an attempt to make me
feel guilty.
For example you write
"I would really like to write back and say that I will not be posting
any more stupid stuff on BIM .... ever, ever again. I want to give
them my word on this.
It would really help if I was no longer excluded from Rising Tide and
Climate Camp.
Do you think this is possible?"
You are acting like a child, saying you can't control your behaviour
but if I did something then it would all be ok. I disagree. You are
responsible for your actions, not me.
Arguing that being ill and spending too much time feeling sorry for
yourself is not an excuse for sending insulting emails to me. Stop
making excuses for yourself
You claim you feel better.
When you claim you feel better you try and manipulate me, through
blame and guilt, to help you. Then when I refuse, through non
correspondence, you react by attacking me and behaving outside of
boundaries of social interaction (eg contacting friends of friends of
mine that you do not know and insulting me to them)
Can you count how many times this pattern has happened in the past year?
I don't want to know the answer but hope you can recognise your behaviour.
Your exclusion from Bristol Rising Tide is a result of this behaviour
not the cause of it.
Claire
David Rose
Carry on spamming!
08.02.2008 12:45
Anyway, looks like David's discovered the joy of proxy servers so the fun will continue for a while yet.
OG Bristol Indymedia
The Paranoid Delusions of Claire Hall
08.02.2008 13:32
email from Claire Hall to the Kebele social centre:
"I know I'm safe at public events and can take the precautions to keep it that way (eg telling friends where I'm going).However if he was allowed regular access to Kebele he could easily orchestrate a situation where say, I was upstairs and he follows me up and even though there are people in the building I find myself alone with him, and have to endure sexual harassment from him. There is no way I am going to put myself in a situation where that could happen, it would be deeply emotionally damaging."
Claire, what are you talking about? These are paranoid delusions. Perhaps you should seek help?
David Rose
restraining order
08.02.2008 13:33
Please get some professional help. I would suggest you first visit your GP, and take time to reflect upon your behaviour. This is a public forum, and you are publicly stalking in a very real sense of the word, not the loose sense it is sometimes used in.
You are also undermining BIM, by repeatedly trolling the open newswire. You are only able to 'publish' this stalking behavour, because BIM has a policy of not pre-editing material. It would be a shame to see the open newswire restricted as a result of your stalking.
observation
banning on UK IMC
08.02.2008 13:42
The only reason you have not yet been banned on UK IMC, as well as BIMC, is that you have not yet conducted the same level of disruptive trolling of the open newswire as you have now repeatedly conducted on BIMC, and are again conducting on BIMC.
It is clear that you are an activist, but also that you are experiencing a mental illness, possibily manic depression, nowadays called bi-polar condition. You are apparently 'Rapid Cycling' between extremes of mood and intent, as the jargon goes.
Exceptions are being made in light of your apparent illness, and you still have a chance to relfect, as bans can be extended across the IMC network, and IP logging can be used to enforce such a ban.
A restraining order, also covering email lists and websites may need to be seriously considered by the victims of your behaviour. Again, I imagine the only reason this has not yet occured is due only to the incredidble degree of patience people are allowing you in light of your apparent mental ill health.
indymedia volunteer
What about the right of free speech and protest?
08.02.2008 14:48
If people think that I am mentally ill or need a restraining order or whatever .... then there is not much I can do to change their minds about that or argue with them. That's their opinion and they are entitled to it.
The reason that I am posting on UKIM about this issue is that I am being excluded from NVDA protest about Climate Change. I find this situation very frustrating as I honestly believe that I pose no threat whatsoever to Claire or anyone else.
So why exclude me from activist groups and Kebele etc? That's my question and no one seems to want to answer it. If I pose no risk or threat to anyone , then why am I being excluded?
What about the right of free speech and protest? Isn't that important?
What about my right to free speech and protest?
David
David Rose
What about the right of free speech and protest?
08.02.2008 16:06
If people think that I am mentally ill or need a restraining order or whatever .... then there is not much I can do to change their minds about that or argue with them. That's their opinion and they are entitled to it.
The reason that I am posting on UKIM about this issue is that I am being excluded from NVDA protest about Climate Change. I find this situation very frustrating as I honestly believe that I pose no threat whatsoever to Claire or anyone else.
So why exclude me from activist groups and Kebele etc? That's my question and no one seems to want to answer it. If I pose no risk or threat to anyone , then why am I being excluded?
What about the right of free speech and protest? Isn't that important?
What about my right to free speech and protest?
David
David Rose
Rapid Cycling
08.02.2008 17:24
Dear 'Indymedia Volunteer',
How you can diagnose me with 'bipolar disorder' without ever meeting me? You are way out of line doing that.
Perhaps you should talk to the people I live with, day in day out and ask them if I am insane? Perhaps you would be surprised by their answers.
The level of hypocrisy in my unnecessary exclusion from Climate NVDA and Kebele is huge.
Its just fine for Claire Hall to email me with her 'opinion' that I need to 'grow up' but if I email Claire Hall asking that I re-join Bristol Rising Tide (to do something about Global Warming!) .... then I am labeled as a 'stalker' with bipolar disorder! The hypocrisy and double standards is appalling. I just want to do something about Global Warming. Why are you ('Indymedia Volunteer') trying to limit my right to free speech and protest?
The only thing that is detrimental to Claire Hall's well being is her own hysterical and over active imagination. It is only her paranoia that needs 'help'. Claire Hall accuses me of being someone who will sexually assault her.. without having the slightest evidence! She is basically calling me a rapist! This is completely unacceptable!
I think we can all leave the "Rapid Cycling" to Britney Spears.
I just want to take direct action on Climate Change. Why are you trying to stop me?
David Rose
You Know You Are Ill!.. Now Go And See Your GP!
08.02.2008 19:44
From: David Rose [mailto:daviddoesbristol at googlemail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2008 20:33
"FW: OK. I will go to counselling.
I am willing to go to a counsellor ..... BUT I WILL NOT BE FORCED TO GO TO ONE BY YOU , CLAIRE (or anyone else!).... OK? Can I repeat ... I am willing to talk to a counsellor about my problems with controlling my anger and obsessive behaviour. This all goes back to my father... who used to loose his temper all the time and throw objects at the wall when arguing with my mother. These arguments were very aggressive and violent in atmosphere (but my Father did not hit my Mother. He just threw things at the wall and smashed things up). This is what my problem is all about. I used to suffer from panic attacks when I was younger but I learnt to control the panic attacks ... but now this 'problem' has resurfaced as obsessive text and email sending."
That your Father never hit your mother is not the point, violence is measured in more ways than direct physical violence. You are behaving violently and you are a bully. You fit all the normal definitions of a stalker, and appear to closely fit the personality of someone who is experiencing extreme mood swings. You are a threat to others, you are just denying the extent to which you're behaviour is already threatening. Virtual smashing up BIMC. Virtually smashing up Clare Hall's peace of mind with a daily barrage of emails.
You have become your father.
A bully with an apparent manic depressive disorder.
You father had no excuses for this behaviour.
Neither do you.
Go and see your GP.
information
'kinnel you freaks make it easy
09.02.2008 00:02
So far in this row you've published each others names, phone numbers, email addys, locations and partners. Now you're telling me about your relationship with your parents? Too much fucking information.
You're all so fucking paranoid you play possum over IP addresses (er, we pick them up through the linked pictures by the way although to be honest it means fuck all) but then you publish more about you than I want to know.
DC Copestake, Trinity Road
WatchingCop
Thanks
09.02.2008 16:40
Thanks, UKIM for doing that. It was all getting a bit weird.
Whilst I admit that I am not a perfect human being, social exclusion and accusations of insanity are not very constructive moves ... in the present circumstances.
I would welcome any dialogue and any genuine attempt at mutual understanding and respect. If others do not want dialogue ... then no dialogue is going to happen.
Its as simple as that.
When it comes to doing Climate Direct Action and Activism, I will still try to do these activities .... as the current reality leaves any sane person with no other choice.
I passionately believe we can do nothing about Climate Change without radical social and political change and I will do all I can to make this happen ASAP.
love to all the activists of Bristol x
David Rose
thanks
09.02.2008 17:18
Thanks, UKIM for doing that. It was all getting a bit weird!
Whilst I admit that I am not a perfect human being, social exclusion and accusations of insanity are not very constructive moves ... in the present circumstances.
I would welcome any dialogue and any genuine attempt at mutual understanding and respect. If others do not want dialogue ... then no dialogue is going to happen.
Its as simple as that.
When it comes to doing Climate Direct Action and Activism, I will still try to do these activities .... as the current reality leaves any sane person with no other choice.
I passionately believe we can do nothing about Climate Change without radical social and political change and I will do all I can to make this happen ASAP.
love to all the activists of Bristol x
David Rose
upswing downswing
09.02.2008 17:50
No-one is saying u are insane, but you are clealry suffering from something which looks very much like bi-polar disorder. You have said yourself you are ill, and suffering from an obsessive compulsive disorder.
Piece it all together David.
Go and see your GP.
If you don't it could worsen into something more approaching insanity, or schizophrenia, which I fear may already be occuring.
information
upswing downswing
09.02.2008 17:51
No-one is saying u are insane, but you are clealry suffering from something which looks very much like bi-polar disorder. You have said yourself you are ill, and suffering from an obsessive compulsive disorder.
Piece it all together David.
Go and see your GP.
If you don't it could worsen into something more approaching insanity, or schizophrenia.
information
the need for dialogue
10.02.2008 00:09
While I admit that I am not a perfect human being, social exclusion and accusations of insanity are not very constructive moves.
I would welcome any dialogue and any genuine attempt at mutual understanding and respect.
If others do not want dialogue ... then no dialogue is going to happen.
Labelling someone as 'mentally ill' without meeting them (and giving them a specific diagnosis) is extremely irresponsible and stupid.
When it comes to doing Climate Direct Action and Activism, I will still try to do these activities .... as the current reality leaves any sane person with no other choice.
I passionately believe we can do nothing about Climate Change without radical social and political change and I will do all I can to make this happen ASAP.
love to all the activists of Bristol x
David Rose
your conscience
10.02.2008 00:40
While I admit that I am not a perfect human being (are you?), social
exclusion and accusations of insanity are not very constructive moves.
I would welcome any dialogue and any genuine attempt at mutual
understanding and respect.
If others do not want dialogue ... then no dialogue is going to happen
but I seek constructive dialogue.
Labelling someone as 'mentally ill' without meeting them (and giving
them a specific diagnosis) is extremely irresponsible and stupid.
When it comes to doing Climate Direct Action and Activism, I will
still try to take action .... as the current reality leaves any sane
person with no other choice.
I passionately believe that we can do nothing about Climate Change
without radical social and political change and I will do all I can to
make this happen ASAP.
If others wish to prevent me from taking direct action on Climate
Change by excluding me from activist groups (and telling me that I am
mentally ill with bipolar disorder!) then they need to ask themselves
if they are doing the right thing and if they have a clear conscience?
love to all the activists of Bristol x
Bristol Dave
Homepage:
http://your conscience
your conscience
10.02.2008 01:57
While I admit that I am not a perfect human being (are you?), social
exclusion and accusations of insanity are not very constructive moves.
I would welcome any dialogue and any genuine attempt at mutual
understanding and respect.
If others do not want dialogue ... then no dialogue is going to happen
but I seek constructive dialogue.
Labelling someone as 'mentally ill' without meeting them (and giving
them a specific diagnosis) is extremely irresponsible and stupid.
When it comes to doing Climate Direct Action and Activism, I will
still try to take action .... as the current reality leaves any sane
person with no other choice.
I passionately believe that we can do nothing about Climate Change
without radical social and political change and I will do all I can to
make this happen ASAP.
If others wish to prevent me from taking direct action on Climate
Change by excluding me from activist groups (and telling me that I am
mentally ill with bipolar disorder!) then they need to ask themselves
if they are doing the right thing and if they have a clear conscience?
love to all the activists of Bristol x
David Rose
A request to also now remove comment 6
10.02.2008 21:29
This is a request to also now remove comment 6 (along with this comment, and further off-topic comments). Please also note, this is not a formal request, but an informal one. I hope it will be validated as genuine, simply by no other collective member questioning this request.
There is still a ban on Bristol Indymedia, however, no requests are currently being made to extend this ban further. This now permanent BIMC ban would be very difficult to reverse, but not impossible.
It is, however, up to UK IMC, as to whether it feels comment 6 needs to remain visible.
Many thanks to all moderators in these difficult situations.
Bristol Indymedia Volunteer
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