Iranian Jews Condemn Emigrant Stunt
CNN | 28.12.2007 22:38 | Anti-militarism | World
Iranian Jews Condemn Emigrant Stunt
(CNN) -- -- The well-publicized (staged) landing of 40 Iranian Jews in Israel on Tuesday spurred glee among some Israelis and the immigrants themselves (and our Plant) and drew public scorn from a surprising quarter in Iran -- two officials from its centuries-old Jewish community.
Iranian Jews arrive at Ben Gurion airport near Tel Aviv, Israel, on Tuesday.
One of them described the emigration as a "misinformation" campaign and defended their lives under the government of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
The arrival in Israel was publicized as the largest single group to arrive in Israel from Iran since Iran's Islamic Revolution, and the immigrants traveled via an undisclosed third country. Other Iranian Jews have immigrated to Israel over the years.
Anti-Semitism has been a worldwide phenomenon for centuries and the state of Israel became a homeland for Jews to escape anti-Semitic persecution.
(Or at least, this was the excuse to frighten Jews, who opposed Zionism, to embrace this racist ideology. The purpose of the state was to empower Zionism, pure and simple.)
The group that sponsored the immigration is the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, based in Chicago. It says it wants to help Jews flee such persecution. The group receives money from evangelical Christians.
(However, since 'such persecution' rarely occurs these days, it appears that they invented some, towards the Zionist goal of attacking Iran.)
Its founder, Rabbi Yehiel Eckstein, believes Iranian Jews face dangers, citing the words of Ahmadinejad, who has urged Israel's destruction but not by military means.
(He hasn't urged 'Israel's destruction', but at least this journalist attempts to right the wrongs committed by a media repeating this lie ad nauseum.)
There has been great criticism of Ahmadinejad by Jews across the globe for his remarks about Israel, for the government's stance toward Israel, and for the regime's sponsorship of a recent Holocaust denial seminar.
Eckstein said immigrants received $10,000 each because they left behind possessions to go to Israel.
(Iran's Jewish community referred to this as bribery, as their organizations condemned the action.)
Noting the evangelical support from his group, Eckstein, in fact, believes it's no "coincidence" that the people came to Israel on Christmas Day, which Eckstein describes as "kind of a Christmas present to these folks from Christians in America who seek to tell Israel and the Jewish people that they're not alone."
(You bet it was not a 'coincidence', since this was a carefully-staged publicity stunt. Those are not "Cristians", they are Christian Fundamentalists. There is a huge difference, just as there is between Zionism and Judaism.)
The immigration comes at a time of great tension between Iran, whose president stoutly rejects the Jewish state's existence, and Israel, which asserts that Iran is funding terrorism, has ambitions to develop nuclear weapons, and is intent on destroying the Jewish state.
(Ahmadinejad rejects the existence of Israel as an Apartheid state on stolen land, and its continued occupation and expansion. As do most people concerned with the conflict. Israel is plotting a war against Iran, and their plot precedes any of the baseless allegations they're now trying to use to start one.)
But the account of the mass immigration was vehemently disputed among Jewish officials in Tehran who defend Jewish life there.
The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament on Wednesday disputed the notion of an organized immigration of Iranian Jews to Israel, saying he would have known about such a development.
("The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament", "The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament", "The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament" ...)
Iranian MP Morris Motamed told CNN that he and Ciamak Morehsadegh, the director of the Tehran Jewish Community, had issued a statement condemning the spread of false news about an evangelical organization facilitating the immigration of 40 Iranian Jews to Israel.
Iranian Jews can travel anywhere they want, anytime they want, but like other Iranians they are not allowed to go to Israel, Motamed said.
Even with that, some Iranian Jews may decide to travel to and from Israel via a third country to visit their families or to visit for religious reasons.
However, Motamed called the news a "misinformation" campaign aimed at creating an atmosphere of distrust between the Muslim and Jewish communities in Iran. He said it is meant to make Iranian Jews feel unsafe and vulnerable in their own country.
(But most of all, it's designed to create this illusion in the West, as Israel tries desperately to gain support for another disastrous, illegal war in the region.)
He said that before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, Iranian Jews numbered more than 100,000, but like other minorities their numbers diminished because of immigration.
He said almost 95 percent of Iranian Jews went to the United States and as a result there is now quite a sizable Iranian Jewish community there. The remaining 5 percent, he said, went to Europe and Israel.
There are as many as an estimated 20,000 to 25,000 Jews remaining in Iran, the largest Jewish community in the Middle East outside Israel, according to CNN's Shirzad Bozorghmehr.
The U.S. State Department's 2007 report on religious freedom says the Iranian government's "rhetoric and actions created a threatening atmosphere for nearly all non-Shi'a religious groups, most notably for Baha'i's," who are based in the Israeli city of Haifa. It also cites "Sufi Muslims, evangelical Christians, and members of the Jewish community."
Jews by Iranian constitutional law have the right to practice their religion and "with some exception," there has been scant government restriction and interference with religious practices, the report said.
However, "members of these recognized minority religious groups have reported government imprisonment, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination based on their religious beliefs."
Jewish education has been tougher to carry out, there has been a rise in anti-Semitic rhetoric, and assaults on two synagogues, the report said. Their contact with or support for the state of Israel has been squelched "out of fear of reprisal."
"Recent anti-American and anti-Israeli demonstrations included the denunciation of Jews, as opposed to the past practice of denouncing only 'Israel' and "Zionism," adding to the threatening atmosphere for the community," the report said.
(But the report was written by allies of Israel, if not Israelis themselves.)
In the Islamic Republic's Jewish community, there is a different view from voices emerging.
Morehsadegh described the Jewish community in Tehran as alive and well, with 20 synagogues, more than eight butcher shops, two restaurants, and four youth groups.
"There is no doubt that the Holocaust happened," he said. "But we disagree with the superpowers who have misused this incident to their own benefit."
CNN's Shirzad Bozorgmehr contributed to this report
edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/26/iran.israel.jews/?iref=hpmostpop
Israel's Jewish Problem in Tehran
So why hasn't Iran started by wiping its own Jews off the map?
by Jonathan Cook
www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=11394
(CNN) -- -- The well-publicized (staged) landing of 40 Iranian Jews in Israel on Tuesday spurred glee among some Israelis and the immigrants themselves (and our Plant) and drew public scorn from a surprising quarter in Iran -- two officials from its centuries-old Jewish community.
Iranian Jews arrive at Ben Gurion airport near Tel Aviv, Israel, on Tuesday.
One of them described the emigration as a "misinformation" campaign and defended their lives under the government of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
The arrival in Israel was publicized as the largest single group to arrive in Israel from Iran since Iran's Islamic Revolution, and the immigrants traveled via an undisclosed third country. Other Iranian Jews have immigrated to Israel over the years.
Anti-Semitism has been a worldwide phenomenon for centuries and the state of Israel became a homeland for Jews to escape anti-Semitic persecution.
(Or at least, this was the excuse to frighten Jews, who opposed Zionism, to embrace this racist ideology. The purpose of the state was to empower Zionism, pure and simple.)
The group that sponsored the immigration is the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, based in Chicago. It says it wants to help Jews flee such persecution. The group receives money from evangelical Christians.
(However, since 'such persecution' rarely occurs these days, it appears that they invented some, towards the Zionist goal of attacking Iran.)
Its founder, Rabbi Yehiel Eckstein, believes Iranian Jews face dangers, citing the words of Ahmadinejad, who has urged Israel's destruction but not by military means.
(He hasn't urged 'Israel's destruction', but at least this journalist attempts to right the wrongs committed by a media repeating this lie ad nauseum.)
There has been great criticism of Ahmadinejad by Jews across the globe for his remarks about Israel, for the government's stance toward Israel, and for the regime's sponsorship of a recent Holocaust denial seminar.
Eckstein said immigrants received $10,000 each because they left behind possessions to go to Israel.
(Iran's Jewish community referred to this as bribery, as their organizations condemned the action.)
Noting the evangelical support from his group, Eckstein, in fact, believes it's no "coincidence" that the people came to Israel on Christmas Day, which Eckstein describes as "kind of a Christmas present to these folks from Christians in America who seek to tell Israel and the Jewish people that they're not alone."
(You bet it was not a 'coincidence', since this was a carefully-staged publicity stunt. Those are not "Cristians", they are Christian Fundamentalists. There is a huge difference, just as there is between Zionism and Judaism.)
The immigration comes at a time of great tension between Iran, whose president stoutly rejects the Jewish state's existence, and Israel, which asserts that Iran is funding terrorism, has ambitions to develop nuclear weapons, and is intent on destroying the Jewish state.
(Ahmadinejad rejects the existence of Israel as an Apartheid state on stolen land, and its continued occupation and expansion. As do most people concerned with the conflict. Israel is plotting a war against Iran, and their plot precedes any of the baseless allegations they're now trying to use to start one.)
But the account of the mass immigration was vehemently disputed among Jewish officials in Tehran who defend Jewish life there.
The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament on Wednesday disputed the notion of an organized immigration of Iranian Jews to Israel, saying he would have known about such a development.
("The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament", "The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament", "The man representing Iranian Jews in Iran's parliament" ...)
Iranian MP Morris Motamed told CNN that he and Ciamak Morehsadegh, the director of the Tehran Jewish Community, had issued a statement condemning the spread of false news about an evangelical organization facilitating the immigration of 40 Iranian Jews to Israel.
Iranian Jews can travel anywhere they want, anytime they want, but like other Iranians they are not allowed to go to Israel, Motamed said.
Even with that, some Iranian Jews may decide to travel to and from Israel via a third country to visit their families or to visit for religious reasons.
However, Motamed called the news a "misinformation" campaign aimed at creating an atmosphere of distrust between the Muslim and Jewish communities in Iran. He said it is meant to make Iranian Jews feel unsafe and vulnerable in their own country.
(But most of all, it's designed to create this illusion in the West, as Israel tries desperately to gain support for another disastrous, illegal war in the region.)
He said that before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, Iranian Jews numbered more than 100,000, but like other minorities their numbers diminished because of immigration.
He said almost 95 percent of Iranian Jews went to the United States and as a result there is now quite a sizable Iranian Jewish community there. The remaining 5 percent, he said, went to Europe and Israel.
There are as many as an estimated 20,000 to 25,000 Jews remaining in Iran, the largest Jewish community in the Middle East outside Israel, according to CNN's Shirzad Bozorghmehr.
The U.S. State Department's 2007 report on religious freedom says the Iranian government's "rhetoric and actions created a threatening atmosphere for nearly all non-Shi'a religious groups, most notably for Baha'i's," who are based in the Israeli city of Haifa. It also cites "Sufi Muslims, evangelical Christians, and members of the Jewish community."
Jews by Iranian constitutional law have the right to practice their religion and "with some exception," there has been scant government restriction and interference with religious practices, the report said.
However, "members of these recognized minority religious groups have reported government imprisonment, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination based on their religious beliefs."
Jewish education has been tougher to carry out, there has been a rise in anti-Semitic rhetoric, and assaults on two synagogues, the report said. Their contact with or support for the state of Israel has been squelched "out of fear of reprisal."
"Recent anti-American and anti-Israeli demonstrations included the denunciation of Jews, as opposed to the past practice of denouncing only 'Israel' and "Zionism," adding to the threatening atmosphere for the community," the report said.
(But the report was written by allies of Israel, if not Israelis themselves.)
In the Islamic Republic's Jewish community, there is a different view from voices emerging.
Morehsadegh described the Jewish community in Tehran as alive and well, with 20 synagogues, more than eight butcher shops, two restaurants, and four youth groups.
"There is no doubt that the Holocaust happened," he said. "But we disagree with the superpowers who have misused this incident to their own benefit."
CNN's Shirzad Bozorgmehr contributed to this report
edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/26/iran.israel.jews/?iref=hpmostpop
Israel's Jewish Problem in Tehran
So why hasn't Iran started by wiping its own Jews off the map?
by Jonathan Cook
www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=11394
CNN
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Scary
29.12.2007 16:40
General Public
gehrig
30.12.2007 00:10
gehrig
Another Zionist LIE Exposed
30.12.2007 02:00
Why? Were you hoping the exposure of these LIES, which you posted to several IMCs, would be Censored?
How Many Is That?
Hardly a repost
30.12.2007 11:11
imc'er
CNN eh?
30.12.2007 11:18
Thank heavens for UK Indymedia bringing us the "truth" that they want "censored" eh?
Sigh
Sarcasm alert
30.12.2007 11:33
General Public
Hardly a repost ?????
30.12.2007 11:37
The efforts some IMC admins will go to to defend an anti Jewish post to the newswire never cease to amaze me.
KOR
It really isn't a repost
30.12.2007 11:57
Now the comments may or may not be rubbish. They certainly manage to use the word Zionism more times than the original, bound to cause a flame war on the comments here. The article may also be pure commentary and not original reporting that Indymedia was started for. But we have one newswire, and the mix with commentary on news is (to a point) part of the IMC UK newswire.
Frankly I think some of you should get off the Internet and onto the streets if you think posts like this are even important. This admin has wasted long enough looking at it.
imc'er
"This admin has wasted long enough looking at it. "
30.12.2007 12:46
You should consider the comments these postings generate and the waste of resources as a rod you made for your own back.
Gentile
New blood needed by the looks of it
30.12.2007 16:23
I am getting sick to my back teeth with how the newswire is being ruined by some admins. Either do the job or sod off and let others do it.
KOR
ROK I HAVE TO ROL
30.12.2007 17:47
ghost of spanner
Homepage: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.indymedia.org+spanner+riseup.net+hidden
Yes it does need new
30.12.2007 18:12
new broom
voting?
30.12.2007 18:53
consensus!
Homepage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making
Not a good idea
30.12.2007 19:15
"Force of personality deciding" the current problems at the UK IMC kollective where one individual blocked the hiding of a known anti semite and his work shows how weak that system is.
voter
Consensus, the forthcoming Network Meeting, and the Atzmon debate
30.12.2007 21:25
If your position is that consensus doesn't work and that it leads to the power of an individual that is the point that you as an individual won't be able to take part in any decision of Indymedia UK. The IMC is not going to consense about stopping to consense. If the case is it needs to work out the block of an individual (which has only been suggested by one person in this thread) even the continual block, it will keep working at it. It's not like it hasn't happened in the past, and it's tooth-pullingly-slowly-painful, but the consensus remains.
The suggestion the solution to the discussion is to make pain and agony for admins (no telling what their position is) by trolling round the comments on Indymedia for hours is counter productive, and more likely will lead to stiffled debate as people have to deal with the 'threat from outside' as well.
Generally most of the well meaning through to purposeful counter-information discussion in the comment threads goes nowhere. It's just you with your steadfast opinions, spending time arguing with people of similar mindsets. Neither would really be welcome in a meeting that works by consensus. If the world is that simple, others opinions have only the shades and backgrounds you express in these discussions you simply won't be able to take part.
For everyone else who doesn't live in a binary world, and can have constructive, imaginative, or just slow and patient discussions and has some real affinity with what Indymedia UK is doing and where it could go in the future can I recommend http://seedsforchange.org.uk/free/consens
ekes
consensus versus editorial policy
30.12.2007 22:34
This post was made by an antisemitic serial spammer. It is a repost from a site run by Republicans and hosts material from people like Pat Buchanan.
The poster also recently posted from a site with staff links to outright holocaust denial and the KKK. It's till there!
Is that what is now considered suitable material? Because when it is plainly visible on the Newswire that is what is looks like: an endorsement and an encouragement.
You may say that fighting in the comments section is pointless, but some people think that such dubious material should not go unchallenged, and the trolls probably jump for joy every time crap like this appears.
Do you think reposts from extreme right wing sites should be left on the wire?
Gentile
Homepage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
Purpose of Hasbara
30.12.2007 23:08
That's the point of the Plant's Hasbara.
It wants this censored, because it is yet another example of the Extremists in Israel LYING to Israelis, to the world, and the world's media, with the ultimate goal of duping people into supporting its plot for an illegal, disastrous strike on Iran.
From the Zionist standpoint, this simply MUST be pushed down the Memory Hole ...
Lies To War
consensus and anti-racism
30.12.2007 23:43
Geniza
Homepage: http://geniza.wordpress.com/topic-index
The joy of zionist trolling
31.12.2007 01:52
http://geniza.wordpress.com/topic-index"
Hurrah - a link to the zionist gehrig's 'anonymous' blog.
The interesting thing about your blog gehrig (who claims to only ever post under his own name), is that you keep highlighting the fact that you want admins to 'decode' posts, using your own zionist mindset.
There isn't a guideline for 'decoding posts' - so its another ham-fisted attempt at smoke and mirrors.
geniza IS gehrig
really?
31.12.2007 04:01
I had to google to learn what a Christmas pudding even *was*.
@%<
gehrig
No great surprise
31.12.2007 07:38
The February meeting can't come soon enough.
observer
Havin' a laugh
31.12.2007 07:45
Is Thornton bonkers, you decide
Decoding
31.12.2007 11:22
Bletchly Park
IMC meeting
31.12.2007 11:34
thanks
interested
Network Meeting Details
31.12.2007 14:23
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/UkNetworkMeeting2008
I will be attending together with sone friends with three aims.
A) To attempt to become an Indymedia admin. At the moment some of the admins are attempting to stop me, others are being supportive. We will see how this develops over the course of the two days.
B) To get the kollective to accept the anti semitism has no place within Indymedia and that anti semitic posts are hidden without any rights by individual admins to block hiding and attempt a long drawn out discussion thereby allowing anti semitism to remain on the newswire.
C) To confront face to face a current Indymedia admin who sent me threats via email for my anti semitic stance and who has showed cowadice when asked to stand up and face me like a man since then;
I would welcome others to come along and become involved in the running of Indymedia and work with me in removing from power those who have perverted the site for their own ends.
ALL ANTI-SEMITES ARE COWARDS
Mike
Machismo not welcome
31.12.2007 14:50
Whatever has happened: if the post is anti-semitic; if the author is anti-semitic; if the author is an organised anti-semite who should be no-platformed; if an IMC UK admin has threatened someone and needs to apologise.
There is absolutely no place for offensive male behaviour at an IMC UK meeting.
imcista
Quite Right
31.12.2007 15:10
What I should have said was of course that anybody who makes threats by email but then refuses to meet face to face is a COWARD.
ALL ANTI SEMITES ARE COWARDS
Mike
That Sword's Dull, Plant
01.01.2008 00:28
That's the point of the Plant's Hasbara.
It wants this censored, because it is yet another example of the Extremists in Israel LYING to Israelis, to the world, and the world's media, with the ultimate goal of duping people into supporting its plot for an illegal, disastrous strike on Iran.
From the Zionist standpoint, this simply MUST be pushed down the Memory Hole ...
Yet Another Zionist Lie Exposed
Uhh
01.01.2008 01:47
You Troll(s) really know no bounds ... !
Lies to War
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