REMEMBER, REMEMBER ???? Guy Fawkes WAS framed ! Newspapers dont research - SHOCK
xxxx | 05.11.2007 16:52 | History | Other Press | Terror War | London | Oxford
To a certain extent, you might think this was projecting back in time what happens these days - 2000 terrorist nuns under YOUR bed - etc (ps - if they aint, there are people about that could whip up a few extra bogey-people for you, for a cut of the protection racket cash, what colour do you prefer, wrapped ,or "out there" menacing . . . . ), but in actual fact. . . .
That "QUIS CUSTODIAT CUSTODIES" phrase ( WHO WATCHES THE WATCHERS ) was as much needed in the time of G. Fawkes esquire.
The chief of secret police, at the time, was somebody that, these days, might try to stay out of the picture a bit more, perhaps in the commerce sector, or the wonderful world of cash jugglers, opinion influencers etc.
Yes, a bit of a "Mynderbyndere" character, as Shakespear might have written it. ( CATCH 22 ). If he wasnt writing in somewhat - tendentious - times too. The "English revolution/civil war" happened a few years later due to the dodgy high-up excesses of these times.
There were, in fact, nursery rhymes about him, after he died - of scurvy or the pox - a few years later.
"The Kings misuser,
The Parliaments abuser
Has left his plotting
. . . . is now a-rotting" AS THE BARDS OF THE TIME PUT IT
for bio, see
http://www.britannia.com/history/r-cecil.html
Historical experts ALL AGREE that he orchestrated large amounts of the things around the "discovery" of the plot, timings, perhaps faking the signatures or torturing people to add their signatures - then loads of "coincidental" factors - but MOUNTAINS of them.
One of his friends rented them the basement, in fact.
Despite the fact that his father was the spymaster to past royalty, his "rise" to the top coincided with FOUR premature, somewhat suspicious deaths of his key opponents.
Then, his last main political opponent launches a seriously flawed attempt at a palace coup, seeing as our "spymaster" was supporting the succession to the english throne of a spanish duchess - then the coup fails, his opponent is "tried" then . . . . dies too. But all his dodgy cash acquisition schemes depend upon TWO things. ONE a proof of UTTER loyalty against "that-sort-of-people" then the re-introduction of the english inquisition to silence ALL critics.
This didnt work.
(Other popular satirical rhymes of the time are recorded at the encyclopaedias website refenced above.)
It seems his slow, painful death was MUCH more popular.
There were other "plots" . . . . such as the "BYE" plot.
After this, one of the chief "plotters" appeared in europe - as his main spy
there.
Hmmmm.
The past of the 1913, when the French Parliament had to shut the outpost of Russias Tsarist "Foreign" Secret Police, after they had gone utterly rogue, comes to mind. Although certain people seem to have tried to keep this quiet for a bit, due to the ineptitude the actual tales of these events show - some of the wide network of several nationalities of "double-paid" operators went on to do other things after, shall we say, but the idiocy of the "Father Gapon at the Winter Palace" provocation (AKA the 1905 Revolution ) or the "Get the ear of the Tsar by getting OUR OWN mad priest in" plot ( got the priest sorted, but caused such a fuss quietly eliminating the other one, again, then again, then again, that the Tsar sussed it a bit, then sacked the boss) - but the effects of their having tried to get rid of a minister in the Tsars government who had a jewish-sounding name with the use of that old novel to forge the "Protocols of the Elders of Tsion" are a cause for tragedies - understatement - through the twentieth century to the present.
QUIS CUSTODIAT CUSTODIES.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO REMEMBER.
(SEE ALSO THE RECENT "halloween : ploughmens lunches" discussion here, (uk indymedia newswires) or the "REMEMBER EACH ELEVENTH" campaigns historical bits)
cheers
The chief of secret police, at the time, was somebody that, these days, might try to stay out of the picture a bit more, perhaps in the commerce sector, or the wonderful world of cash jugglers, opinion influencers etc.
Yes, a bit of a "Mynderbyndere" character, as Shakespear might have written it. ( CATCH 22 ). If he wasnt writing in somewhat - tendentious - times too. The "English revolution/civil war" happened a few years later due to the dodgy high-up excesses of these times.
There were, in fact, nursery rhymes about him, after he died - of scurvy or the pox - a few years later.
"The Kings misuser,
The Parliaments abuser
Has left his plotting
. . . . is now a-rotting" AS THE BARDS OF THE TIME PUT IT
for bio, see
http://www.britannia.com/history/r-cecil.html Historical experts ALL AGREE that he orchestrated large amounts of the things around the "discovery" of the plot, timings, perhaps faking the signatures or torturing people to add their signatures - then loads of "coincidental" factors - but MOUNTAINS of them.
One of his friends rented them the basement, in fact.
Despite the fact that his father was the spymaster to past royalty, his "rise" to the top coincided with FOUR premature, somewhat suspicious deaths of his key opponents.
Then, his last main political opponent launches a seriously flawed attempt at a palace coup, seeing as our "spymaster" was supporting the succession to the english throne of a spanish duchess - then the coup fails, his opponent is "tried" then . . . . dies too. But all his dodgy cash acquisition schemes depend upon TWO things. ONE a proof of UTTER loyalty against "that-sort-of-people" then the re-introduction of the english inquisition to silence ALL critics.
This didnt work.
(Other popular satirical rhymes of the time are recorded at the encyclopaedias website refenced above.)
It seems his slow, painful death was MUCH more popular.
There were other "plots" . . . . such as the "BYE" plot.
After this, one of the chief "plotters" appeared in europe - as his main spy
there.
Hmmmm.
The past of the 1913, when the French Parliament had to shut the outpost of Russias Tsarist "Foreign" Secret Police, after they had gone utterly rogue, comes to mind. Although certain people seem to have tried to keep this quiet for a bit, due to the ineptitude the actual tales of these events show - some of the wide network of several nationalities of "double-paid" operators went on to do other things after, shall we say, but the idiocy of the "Father Gapon at the Winter Palace" provocation (AKA the 1905 Revolution ) or the "Get the ear of the Tsar by getting OUR OWN mad priest in" plot ( got the priest sorted, but caused such a fuss quietly eliminating the other one, again, then again, then again, that the Tsar sussed it a bit, then sacked the boss) - but the effects of their having tried to get rid of a minister in the Tsars government who had a jewish-sounding name with the use of that old novel to forge the "Protocols of the Elders of Tsion" are a cause for tragedies - understatement - through the twentieth century to the present.
QUIS CUSTODIAT CUSTODIES.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO REMEMBER.
(SEE ALSO THE RECENT "halloween : ploughmens lunches" discussion here, (uk indymedia newswires) or the "REMEMBER EACH ELEVENTH" campaigns historical bits)
cheers
xxxx
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