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People to lose the right to see a solicitor in a police station

sl | 14.10.2007 15:36 | Repression

The government has announced that people arrested will no longer have the right to see a solictor in a police station. The new scheme (coming in February) will only allow people access to a call centre where trained non-soliciors will provide telephone advice. The firm that won the contract in London employs mainly ex police officers.

The government is rolling out Criminal Defence Services Direct to all of England and Wales from February. It's modelled on NHS Direct and is funded by the Legal Services Commission.

John Sirodcar of the Legal Services Commission told the BBC's Law in Action programme that it would "save around £4m of public money which could be reinvested in Legal Aid." Note the "could", and that £4m is not a great deal of money when spread across the entire country.

The BBC says that you won't be forced to use the callcentre if you need an interpreter, or you "accuse the police of serious mistreatment". Presumably the police will get to decide whether your allegation is serious enough.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7035533.stm is the Law in Action article.

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Appalling

14.10.2007 18:04

The appalling cuts in relation to criminal legal aid, combined with a greater volume of offences than ever before on the statute books, shows that our society is heading towards totalitarian control. I strongly oppose this move.

Steven Allen
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God bless Gordon Brown...

15.10.2007 11:31

..and his police state. What a lovely prospect: receiving legal advice from a policeman - a bit like taking advice on human rights from Dick Cheney or Adolf Hitler.

George Orwell


The day

15.10.2007 14:13

they begin coming for people draws closer

Kafka


BBC article plus a poem from Niemöller :

16.10.2007 14:34

They came...
They came...

Room 101
Room 101

Tuesday, 9 October 2007

'Call centre justice' criticised

By Hugh Levinson
BBC Radio 4's Law in Action


The government has been criticised for cutting the right of arrested suspects to advice from a qualified lawyer.

In a little-noticed change, from next February most people who are arrested and held in custody in England and Wales for minor offences will usually be denied the right to speak to a duty lawyer.


Arrested people will be put through to a call centre

Instead, they will be put through to a telephone call centre, staffed by legal advisers - who are not qualified as lawyers.

In London, most of the advisers will be former police officers.

Spokesman for the London Criminal Courts Solicitors Association, Robert Brown, told Radio 4's Law in Action programme that the scheme was "call-centre justice on the cheap".

The service, called Criminal Defence Services Direct is modelled on NHS Direct, and run by the Legal Services Commission (LSC).

The commission has been operating CDS Direct for several years as a pilot scheme for people seeking publicly-funded advice in custody.

Negative response

Earlier this year they announced plans to expand the service to cover all requests for advice from people accused of minor crimes, such as drink driving or disorderly behaviour.

Despite overwhelmingly negative responses to a consultation exercise, the commission decided to continue with its plans.

From next month CDS Direct will cover police stations in Greater Manchester, the West Midlands and West Yorkshire.

Then next February it will be expanded to all of England and Wales.

Mr Brown says this goes directly against the principles of laws which are supposed to give suspects protection against police powers.

"The Police and Criminal Evidence Act gives the state very wide-ranging powers over individual subjects. And the right was therefore enshrined in statute that people would have the right to an independent lawyer," he told the programme.


"In the future they won't have a right to speak to a solicitor, only to an unqualified representative."

However, the commission rejects the criticism.

John Sirodcar of the LSC said that the advisers would all have undergone rigorous training to receive the Law Society's Police Station Qualification.

This same qualification is required of lawyers working as duty solicitors.

The CDS Direct scheme would, Mr Sirodcar said, save around £4m of public money which could be reinvested in Legal Aid.

All the firms which won contracts to offer CDS Direct Services would be assessed and would have to meet a higher quality threshold than the minimum for offering criminal legal aid, he also said.

'Good quality'

To the horror of many defence lawyers, the contract for London has been won by a company which employs a large number of former police officers as advisors.

"I don't think it's good for public confidence in the system when people that are detained in police stations are going to be referred in the majority of cases to speak to ex-police officers," Mr Brown said.

"I think the majority of people are appalled."

But Mr Sirodcar defended the choice, saying that many law firms had used the services of this same company and that it offered a good quality service.

"There is a really good argument that says that somebody that understands police station work in its entirety and is then skilled and trained to become a legal adviser is a pretty good combination."

Suspects will not be forced to use CDS Direct if, for example, they need interpreters or if they accuse the police of serious mistreatment. In those cases they would still be able to see a traditional duty solicitor.

Law in Action is on Radio 4 on Tuesdays at 1600 or via the podcast at the programme website (see links on right hand side).


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7035533.stm

"First they came…" is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Variation:
First they came for the Communists,
- but I was not a communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists,
- but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews,
- but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.

Time for a revolution?

Stop the world I want to get off!!!!!! Arrrgghh.....
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