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Conspiracy of dunces

Danny | 26.09.2007 01:41 | Ecology | Repression

Following on from the prosecutions of Daniel McGowan & Rod Coronado [1] is the story of Eric McDavid, a young poet-activist currently on hungerstrike and who is back in court next month. Eric was stitched up by the FBI in a sting operation on the ELF that we should all learn from.

Overview from Wikipedia: [2]

Together with Lauren Weiner and Zachary Jenson, he allegedly planned acts of arson and sabotage of the Nimbus Dam and fish hatchery on the American River near Sacramento, the United States Forest Service Institute of Forest Genetics, cell phone towers, electric power stations, and other targets. The fourth member of the group, known as "Anna", was actually a confidential source working with the FBI since 2004. She encouraged their activities and provided them with bomb-making information, money to buy the raw materials and a cabin to work in, and produced audio and video recordings of their activities. On January 13, 2006, the three were arrested outside a store where they had bought household chemicals allegedly for bomb-making. If convicted, they would face 5 to 20 years in prison. None of the three had prior convictions. Lauren and Zach have reportedly agreed to plead guilty and testify against Eric. They have been freed until their hearings. Eric remains in custody at the Sacramento County jail.


From cyptome:

What people following this case learned on the first day of the trial was that the FBI woman was 17 years old !! when she first was recruited. Earlier everyone had assumed she was ~25. She bought alcohol and probably marijuana, and plane tickets, and kept insisting and demanding that they leave jobs to hang out with her at a cabin (which was rigged with lots of cameras and recorders by the FBI). Then when they were drunk, she was steering them into discussing building a bomb and attacking something, and she insulted and cajoled them for not being interested in planning anything at first. The girl who plea bargained said they considered stealing a jelly truck and spilling it to create a traffic 'jam'.


My opinion:

I went through something similar last year with an infiltrator from this wire - and who still posts here, these aren't just FBI tactics. I've already posted most of that here though and most of it has been hidden as 'paranoid' or part of a 'personal spat'. The agent still poses as an activist photographer who posts here and is getting deeper into various groups. And he was not working alone, even in my neck of the woods. I think the following observation is far from true in the UK, but I have never previously accused anyone of being an infiltrator and would be happy to identify the person now if I was allowed to by IM-UK. "One of the nearly ubiquitously accepted rules of activist culture is that one should never accuse someone of being an infiltrator unless one is 100% certain. Therefore, I think it is likely that several activists took this rule to heart and by their silence allowed "Anna" to ply her trade undetected until finally she was able to destroy the lives of at least three anarchists." -Stephen DeVoy


Mainstream coverage: [3]

Three would-be eco-terrorists were arrested in Auburn last January for plotting acts of sabotage for the Earth Liberation Front. But would there have been a conspiracy without the prodding of FBI infiltrator Anna?...
The government says that its confidential source, Anna, foiled the plot cooked up by McDavid, Jenson and Weiner. But court documents suggest that it took a lot of care and feeding, encouragement and money from the FBI informant, Anna, to get this particular conspiracy to hatch. In May, Weiner agreed to plead guilty. She faces a maximum of five years in prison and is free on bail, living with her family in New York. Last week, after more than six months in the Sacramento County Jail, Jenson also agreed to a plea bargain, and to testify against McDavid. He’s been released on bail and is scheduled to be sentenced in early October. That leaves McDavid left to stand trial. He’s the oldest, and the one prosecutors say was the real leader behind the plot. He was also the one who was closest to Anna, the FBI informant who stuck with McDavid for a year-and-a-half, asking him questions, making suggestions and acting as if she were his lieutenant while reporting on his every move to the FBI. According to testimony from Sacramento-based FBI Special Agent Nasson Walker, she got paid at least $75,000 for her work. The defendants’ lawyers say that there could have been no conspiracy at all without Anna. Documents from the investigation reviewed by SN&R suggest that Anna provided much of the financial support, the encouragement and the know-how needed to turn their talk into action. They also show that whenever the group started to lose focus, or to have second thoughts, Anna badgered them about being all talk and not sticking to an action plan...In an affidavit filed in the case, FBI Special Agent Walker said that the “confidential source” (the government never refers to Anna by name; it’s always the “source”) had been used in at least 12 prior investigations of anarchists and anarchist groups. “Her information has proved accurate and reliable,” Walker said, and she was “granted authority to participate in Tier 1 Otherwise Illegal Activity” as part of the investigation. Tier 1 means investigations of the most dangerous criminals: terrorists. OIA means just that. Anna was allowed to break the law in order to get her collar. McDavid first encountered Anna in Iowa in 2004, at an anarchist convention called CrimethInc. He was already friends with Jenson, who also went to Iowa that time. “She showed up with this pink hair and camo miniskirt. I guess she was pretty cute,” said Reichel. According to Reichel, Anna and McDavid never slept together, but there was romantic tension between the two over the next year-and-a-half. “They argued like a couple. Everyone around them assumed they were sleeping together. She definitely had my boy after her.”...On December 10, 2005, Anna gave McDavid the recipe for potassium chlorate in an e-mail that she had encoded with a simple letter-shift code (A equals G, B equals H, etc). The e-mail starts, “I think this is what you meant at your house. If you want the rest, tell me ..."
Before the others arrived back in Northern California, Anna had rented the cabin in Dutch Flat, which she described in one e-mail as “a place that’s totally under the table, secure, hidden, but not too hidden that we look like Ted Kazynciski [sic].” The group would stay in the cabin for less than a week--from January 8 to January 13--unaware that there was a hidden video camera already set up beside the television and an FBI surveillance team set up outside videotaping and recording what was happening inside...As for Anna, nobody but her FBI handlers knows where she is today. There are rumors that she’s back in Iowa, though she could be anywhere that young anarchists and radical environmentalists are congregated.


The Lessons Drawn by Stephen DeVoy on another Indymedia: [4]

I too was placed under surveillance by the U.S. Government. I was not engaged in any illegal activities. The purpose of the "investigation" against me was to harass and silence me in the spirit of the COINTELPRO operations that were made illegal in the 1980s. Like Eric McDavid, Lauren Weiner, and Zachary Jenson, I was placed under surveillance by the Bush Regime. Upon reading the "evidence" against the defendants in the case under discussion here, many statements concerning the infiltrator denoted as "Anna" paralleled my observations about an individual that I believed infiltrated my protest activities.

The observations herein, however, will focus almost exclusively upon the activities of "Anna," though my focus upon them has been inspired by my own personal experiences as a subject of COINTELPRO. What I hope to accomplish is to alert dissidents of the techniques attributed to "Anna" in the criminal complaint. Even if "Anna" did a good job at concealing these techniques, dissidents under surveillance by COINTELPRO should be able to exploit this information to make it impossible for other infiltrators to repeat these same techniques undiscovered.

I have never met any of the defendant in this case. I have not attended any of the events described in the complaint. I have never communicated with anyone involved in the case. I have no comment on their activities, goals, or motivations. My only intent is to alert lawful dissidents to what they might learn from the criminal complaint as worded by the FBI so that they can apply it to make FBI interference and harassment of their legal political activities more difficult.

Most probably, some readers do know the defendants. I encourage them NOT to post anything in response to this article. If you have something to say that you believe may help them, you should not post that information online. You should contact the attorneys of the defendants. Anything you post in response to this article might be used by the FBI against them.

Let us begin with the infiltrator referred to in the document as "Anna." On page 3, line 15, the complaint reads: "S/he has worked for no other agencies and has no criminal history. The (sic) s/he has provided information that has been utilized in at least twelve separate anarchist cases." In my personal opinion, this is a large number of cases. Clearly, the FBI has used her in targeting anarchists in particular. There must be a reason for this. On line 11 of the same page, the document states: "The CS receives compensation for his/her work with the FBI." This implies that she is paid for her "services." I find it difficult to believe that a real anarchist would turn around and begin selling her comrades for money. Therefore, I think it is unlikely that she is a turncoat. Moreover, on line 10 of the same page, the document states: "S/he has worked for no other agencies and has no criminal history." This appears to rule out the possibility that she was engaged in criminal activity and agreed to cooperate in exchange for leniency. Therefore, it would appear that she was hired from the beginning to infiltrate anarchist organizations, cells, groups, or networks. She is, it seems, purely a spy.

We should assume that she is close in age to the defendants. Eric McDavid is 28 years old. Zachary Jenson is 20 years old. Lauren Weiner is 20 years old. All three defendants are white. Given that "Anna" appears to have behaved as though she were a helper to Eric McDavid and that she was cast for that role, assuming the FBI would find a fit congruent with social expectations, I believe we can assume that "Anna" is younger than Eric McDavid. I would assume that she is between 20 and 26 years old. I would also assume that she is white. Why, you might ask? Well, a white female anarchist tagging along with three white anarchists is much less likely to be remembered than a non white anarchist tagging along with three white anarchists. Since we have seen no photos of her posted yet, I think we can assume that she blended right in. In fact, if, as the FBI claims, she has been used in twelve previous anarchist cases (which are not connected), we can assume that she has never been exposed as an infiltrator before, despite a very recent serial infiltration spree.

It seems likely that there are twelve sets of anarchists out there that either suspect they had been infiltrated or know that they had been infiltrated. One would think that at least a few of those sets would both know that they had been infiltrated and know who infiltrated them. Yet, despite this, she has never been exposed. How is this possible?

One of the nearly ubiquitously accepted rules of activist culture is that one should never accuse someone of being an infiltrator unless one is 100% certain. Therefore, I think it is likely that several activists took this rule to heart and by their silence allowed "Anna" to ply her trade undetected until finally she was able to destroy the lives of at least three anarchists. Indeed, it seems to me that Eric McDavid himself suspected that "Anna" just may be an infiltrator and chose to remain silent. On page 7, line 8 the document states: "Shortly after the event, McDavid spoke with the CS about his plans to engage in criminal activity in support of his political beliefs. He prefaced the disclosure of his plans by warning that if the CS were working with law enforcement, he would kill him/her." Now, if this statement by the FBI is to be believed (remember, there is a long history of the FBI lying to win convictions), then Eric McDavid seems to have believed that it was possible that "Anna" was an infiltrator. Since, as the document shows, "Anna" was able to continue accompanying Eric for an extended period of time, we must assume that he decided to trust her, despite his first intuitions.

I too had similar intuitions about someone who I believe was an infiltrator in an extended (several months) protest action and I chose to allow that person to continue working with me. I kept my beliefs about him secret until long after the action stopped and I believed the evidence was overwhelming. However, during that period in between, this person did many things that run in exact parallel with the things that "Anna" is reported to have done. Had I confronted my intuitions in the beginning, I might have avoided a lot of grief. Had Eric confronted his intuitions, he may have avoided a great deal of grief for himself and his alleged associates. If there is a lesson to be learned in this it is to listen to your intuitions and investigate fully anyone who provokes your intuition. At some point, as I pointed out above, "Anna" must have suddenly appeared on the scene with no history. It is a pity that no one searched back far enough, if they searched at all, to verify that she was who she claimed to be.

The next significant set of items in the document is the claim that the defendants voluntarily allowed many of their allegedly incriminating activities to be video recorded. On page 12, line 3, the document states: "In conversations conducted in the presence of the CS, and observed by agents via consensual video and audio monitoring, the subjects planned a trip to San Francisco, CA for the following day." What does this mean? Did the suspects agree to be monitored by video? The document states that the two males were highly security conscious. Why would they allow themselves to be monitored by video? My guess is that this is another clue about "Anna's" modus operandi. Somehow, "Anna" was able to quickly join up with Eric and convince him to allow her to tag along with him. He suspected from the onset that she might be an infiltrator. What made him think that? In light of the fact that we now have reason to believe that "Anna" had video recording equipment and that she used this video equipment to record the suspects discussing, among other things, alleged plans to to "acquire materials for a [explosive] device... Materials mentioned were potassium chloride, a hot plate, and a car battery."(page 12, line 10), we should suspect that "Anna" was posing as some kind of documentary film maker. If this suspicion is correct, it may explain how she was able to drop in on the lives of 12 networks of anarchists and then disappear without anyone suspecting she was an infiltrator. The person I believe to have infiltrated my group also had video equipment and claimed that documenting what we were doing was one of his primary goals. In each case, he asked for our consent.

Other references to these video recordings are also made. On page 13, line 13 the document reads: "While in the cabin, and in the presence of the CS, agents observed via consensual audio and video recording, the subjects as they discussed targets." Again, this is exactly the kind of thing a documentary maker might wish to record.

Along the way, "Anna" needed to keep in contact with her handlers at the FBI. The document in several places makes it clear that text messaging was the primary means of communicating with "Anna" during her surveillance activities. Occasionally, "Anna" would separate from the group and meet with FBI agents. In my own experience, the person I expect to have been an infiltrator frequently used his cell phone's text messaging. He frequently separated from us and at times was observed suddenly meeting previous acquaintances, upon which times he would separate from us and talk with these individuals without introducing them to us. Many of these individuals did not match the demographic of his fellow protesters in any way (in terms of dress or class). What I take away from the description of "Anna" is that one should be suspicious of comrades that disappear without good explanation while activities are being planned or are underway. Moreover, "Anna" seems to have been much better equipped in terms of technology than her primitivist or green comrades. That difference should have been obvious within the group.

It is possible that "Anna" hid her cell phone and/or text messaging device from her comrades. However, if security were at all important to the group, one would think that they would have discovered that she had the means to communicate outside of the group while secret activities were in play and that she was in fact doing just that.

The document frequently mentions the fact that agents were following the group from place to place. There are procedures available to make it difficult for someone to follow undetected. Perhaps more effort needs to be placed in detecting government stalkers.

Finally, two members of the group maintained a presence on the Internet and made statements online which were conjoined with actual events and then presented in the document as evidence against the group. This is a major security flaw.

Before I move on, I would like to point out that there is another possible interpretation of the words "observed via consensual audio and video recording." From a legal point of view, "consent" might refer to the knowledge of the infiltrator that monitoring is underway. Under this scenario, only the infiltrator would be aware of monitoring. If this is true, then another question needs to be addressed. Why didn't the defendants take steps to ensure that they were not being monitored while making plans? Why didn't they sweep their meeting places for monitoring devices? Why didn't they constrain their planning to locations where such surveillance is more difficult? Why didn't they ensure that no person within their group was wearing a wire?

Finally, the document indicates that "Anna" was authorized to break the law when assisting with alleged crimes. On page 3, line 22 the document states: "On December 22, 2005, the CS was granted authority to participate in Tier 1 Otherwise Illegal Activity as part of his/her involved in the investigation..."

On the day of the arrest, she is alleged to have assisted the defendants in purchasing bomb making materials at a Kmart. On page 14, line 11, the document states: "The agents observed the subjects, not the CS, carry bags of items from the Kmart to the CS's car." This is stated explicitly. The FBI wishes readers of the document to believe that the CS did not place bags of bomb making materials into the suspect's car, but that the suspects did this themselves. This is an important item to note. We must assume that "Anna" was instructed to not place the evidence in the car. If one believes one is being set up for a crime, an apparent test is to have the suspected infiltrator transfer the contraband and/or maintain possession of it.


[1]  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/09/381733.html
[2]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_McDavid
[3]  http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/Content?oid=oid%3A80311
[4]  http://maritimes.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/11745.php

Danny
- Homepage: http://supporteric.org

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things to look at when pissed. . . . apropos

26.09.2007 18:04

in the sf "play for the wireless" PLAUSIBLE DENIAL, the misuse of frequent subacoustic repetition to create "triggers", using computers, had a sort of "full spectrum fakery" effect over broadcasters, mps etc, or people that spent a lot of time in high electro-magnetic pulse environments (around plugs, wiring, street-light or cable pavement grids, etc)- or whose work travel or play took them into electric vehicles often, or caused a sense of odd dependence upon their mobile phones, almost as if they thought they were lasers, or protection from all this, when in actual fact these phones shackled them to their "work", so that they almost had to jump when somebody pressed a button ( - how very unlike this world, eh! ).Most people didnt get "programmed" with ALL these "triggers", most of the time they didnt work much, but the fact that it might have worked ONE time a lot, then a BIT to a lot of people loads of the time, kept people a bit in awe of it all for AGES, with the misuse of other bits of "EW" , emp ploy ment of old schemes, etc some people actually thought they werent people at all for a bit!
The world DOES get more like these "dystopias" all the time, so, in case this also came too true, i thought i'd add a list of the favourite short "triggers" of the inept criminals in THIS dystopia that had stumbled upon the technology to boost or replace "hypnotic" powers that theyd often never had, but had "heard" about or used as a cover for this tech scam. Of course they then tried to use this tech to suppress the powers or talent of minions that might actually have it, at the same time as scamming them into thinking it was a "booster" to them.
Hence THAT conspiracy of dunces - they actually suppressed talent as it "rose" in the petty criminal hierarchy - it actually DID get "stupidder".THEN the "leadership" of the "octopus", despite having "lightning rod" politician or magnate ytpes to act as big baddy fall guys, layers of "cut-outs", pseudo-groups galore of different patsies semi-engineered to ACT in "hateful" ways to almost comic extents as they did the "dirty-work" for almost nothing - THEN the "leadership" discovered the ideas of the regular "memory-wiping" of each other TOO, so preventing these somewhat less-wise guys from getting lessons from the numerous disastrous "cunning plots". Hmmm.
Having typed this out, it all resonates FAR too true.
The worst thing is that a lot of it is possible with todays tech, typical with todays "bosses" - or the worst sort of them - allowing for a margin of "blackbudget" - then, if so, you'd have to add a lot of dodgy recycled covert ops scams, relook at the last 70 or so years of "current" affairs, expect a combination of cocked-up conspiracies with spurious spin to replace the old "cock-up or conspiracy" debate, then sort out the shock, inertia, group unthink etc that might happen as "forensic" tech caught up, as they tried to get such a lot of other people into the "outer" bit of the scam that they'd get away to some tax havens in the sun in the fuss, hoping the resulting "house of cardsharps world" didnt collapse as they drank the last of the gin. . . .

drink up

cheers


drink



cheer up




MON ....money money money-see
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hILL tnhtl, ltnknwls
Ed
bear . . . . though almost all words in THAT dystopia could get "programmed" as triggers for a few hours or so, people that were a bit accustomed to taking turns doing the old"mesmerist" end of that often took turns using the tech to try to "meatpuppet" people - or set up the tech so that a lengthy series of people all thought they were "playing" other people, despite most of it/all of it effecting people in the way a computer works on a remote computer, playing loads of people as "bumper cars" by remote

with a load of others people THOUGHT WERE, but werent, such as "the count" (acc) or Vi, or "B" from "B-team", the "support"/back-up" groups in some old operations that, at times, let the "front" or "A-team" fry' then lied about it, got blackmailed, then dragged into the dodgier "lies as career", a past of "cover-ups", a "future" that is imaginary, a "present" of frequent failures (flops), spin' then trying to pretend that all the mistakes were on purpose, but that they were diabolically clumsy. . . . (clever but, er, "bad"?). . . .

(mmmm, that is almost the entire of that bit of the "play", but it aint THAT great, the ideas are the "good" bits)






CHEERS . . . . DONT REMAIN HUNGOVER TOO LONG, THERES LOADS TO DO to stop THIS SORT OF THING
happening

msmrst bzwrd trgrs. . . . smashing, nicey


Thanks Elephant

26.09.2007 20:10

I missed that at the time.

And unfunnily enough, guess who the local infiltrator I was referring to - M= Big Brother.

Danny


Secret Colonies on Mars: I was a member of the Mars Society

26.10.2007 06:08

Secret Colonies on Mars

I want to thank all of you for coming here and allowing me the space to share this with you, so I don't have to carry it any longer by myself. The purpose of the lectures is to inform you specifically of the extraterrestrial intervention in our development and the development of mankind. Mankind has been fascinated with Mars ever since time began. The story of Mars that has been shared with me by the Andromedans is both compelling and quite fascinating.

Unlike some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, the moon of Earth and the planet Venus, Mars actually originated in our solar system. It is 6.1 billion years old, and its inner sun, which all planets have or had, is burned out. So, the inside is cold, dark and wet. The surface appears to be desolate, sandy and windy. However, Mars is changing, and it has been changing for the last 30 years. The Andromedans say that Mars is getting closer to the sun every three years, and the 200 mile-an-hour storms are becoming less and less frequent. Every year, the polar caps are showing more and more of a change of seasons.

The technology does exist today to enable Mars to sustain human life as we know it. According to the Andromedans, given the correct coordination of events in terms of technological applications, Mars could be fully habitable for human life in only 20 years. One of the moons of Saturn also offers us this possibility.

Mars has a part very similar to that of Earth. It has a history of repeated colonization and life. According to Morenae, Mars was the first planet in our solar system to explored and colonized. When civilizations were coming to our solar system, they stopped first at Mars. Mars at one time had an ocean and an atmosphere. It was also in a different orbit than it is now. It had plant life and some very basic life forms which didn't evolve there, but were brought to both Mars and Earth 189 million years ago by traders, explorers and miners from Alpha Draconis, Ursa Major and Minor, Lyrae, the Pleiadies, Zeta Reticuli and Sirius.

Now, there have been some other groups that have passed through here, but those groups were predominantly those who worked our system for minerals, ores, biological samples and all kinds of things. When they came, they always seemed to leave something behind. Some of the life forms that have been and will be discovered on Mars are exactly identical to life forms we have here on Earth. Space travel has existed in our galaxy for 4.4 billion years, according to what the Andromedans have said. The fossil records of both Earth and Mars apparently show that most life forms have had very little actual evolution and appear almost fully formed. In other words, there just suddenly appeared on the scene because they were brought here, according to the Andromedans, by early space explorers and biological engineers. Every time they came, they tinkered with life forms.

Apparently, 69.3 million years ago a very large planetary asteroid came through our solar system, laden with a lot of debris. This asteroid, according to Vissaeus, was so magnetically powerful that as it came through it ripped Mars from its original orbit (which was nearer to the Earth) and pulled it 19 million miles further out. All this happened in a very short period of time, and this devastated everything on the planet, ripping off the atmosphere and causing three successive polar shifts in as many days. Although this asteroid left Earth's atmosphere reasonably intact, Mars would take tens of millions of years before it was able to host even the most basic life forms. According to the Andromedans, Mars even had dinosaurs on it at one time, and the fossils of these beasts have been found by the teams that have been sent there. Eventually we will hear about this when and if things become more open.

According to the Andromedans, Mars has been periodically inhabited for 3.8 billion years, and that there are ruins all over the planet. Most of the ruins are buried under hundreds of feet of sand, just like here on Earth in the Gobi desert, where there are ruins of ancient cities. Now, most of us have heard about Cydonia and the pyramids on Mars. There are also war ruins in the Cydonia region that have not been found yet.

It is interesting that the word al quahir, the Egyptian word that means Cairo, also means Mars, and that this has been in the Egyptian language for thousands of years. Strange coincidence.

Ruins on Mars

The area known as the Tharsis Ridge contains ruins of an ancient city approximately 69 million years old. The Utopia region also holds the ruins of a city equally as old. These cities have been buried for 69 million years. A really interesting area is called Mariner Valley Canyon, where there is an ancient Lyraen city that has been buried for 113 million years. There is a vast network of underground tunnels and caverns under this area. This area is where the Earth bases Eve is located.

Earth Base Eve

The Earth base on Mars called Eve is a vast complex built originally millions of years ago, reactivated with the help of the Greys for the Earth world government. It stretches over an area of 118 miles and is three levels deep in some places. It housed approximately 300,000 human beings, and the deepest portion is 6,200 feet below the surface. It has four openings to the surface consisting of two elevator shafts and two pressurized hangar entrances, complete with elevators. In other words, if you're flying in a ship, you fly into a hangar, which closes, and you're pressurized, dropping you down into living quarters. That's how the whole thing is done.

Earth Base Adam

Much of the hardware taken to Mars, as I mentioned once before, came from the moon first, via Russia and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. The area known as Hellas Elanitia, or the Plains of Gold, is the location of the earth colony, and east of there is a city dubbed Adam. There used to be a large fresh water lake in this area long in the past.

There are essentially three large domed structures built into the mountain range there. The largest of these domes stretches 2.6 miles in diameter, and the other two average a mile in diameter. Each of these domed structures is connected by tunnels to the other domes. The largest dome is built 1,000 feet into the surface of Mars. Underneath the mountain range where Adam is located, there is another tunnel which leads to a cavern area that is seven square miles in size. They don't have any idea what is inside this cavern area, because the Orion Group has a force field which shields them from view. Nobody can see what they're doing in there.

Orion Group Redoux

In March 1989, the Russian Phobos probe took pictures of mother ships landing on the surface of Mars, as well as a picture of one of the scout craft firing at the probe, just before it exploded. One of these large ships, 250 miles long, landed at an old Orion Group base that has been reactivated. The base is more than 1 million years old and is completely underground, occupies 64 square miles, contains five levels and extends to 8,500 feet below the surface. It was fully operational as of June 1994, and contains 2111 scout craft and over 100,000 Orion and Draconian troops. The Andromedans are real specific when they say "troops'.

The Cyndonia region was the last based occupied by the Pleiadians, Lyraens and Sirians when our solar system fell to the Orion Group about 317,000 B.C. That base was partially destroyed in that attack.

NSA Lands on Mars in 1959

The first Martian landing by the NSA 'black government' was in March 1959, when three craft were sent to the Cydonia region. Only 29 military and scientific personnel went on this first mission. The 'fortress' area housed the craft and the workers while Eve was being reopened with the assistance of the Greys. The construction that was done was performed by the same groups that had done construction on the moon, the Army Corps of Engineers, Bechtel, A.A. Matthews, Robbins Corporation, Psi Corps, and scientists and engineers from JPL.

All of the personnel in this project had no families to worry about them, and all records on their existence, except for personal memories of people on earth, have been wiped clean by the NSA Ultra and Blue Moon units (Alpha I and II), who recruited personnel for this mission. All this was done on the premise that the Earth was going to self-destruct due to pollution, population and disappearing natural resources. The bases were completed in 1968. The Andromedans have said that the 'black government' would do anything to maintain secrecy on this matter.

In March of 1989, thirty years to the month of the landing on Mars, a group of Orion and Draconian forces invaded the Martian colonies and all communication between the moon bases and Mars ceased. Some of the greatest talent and minds are stuck on Mars. Three hundred thousand humans out of communication.

The American and Russian Mars probes were sent, subsequently, to see what they could observe on Mars, and they were destroyed or taken out of action from the surface of Mars.

Stephen R. DeVoy
mail e-mail: srdevoy@aol.com
- Homepage: http://www.stop-fascism.org


The Posting about Mars and Extra-terrestials is Bogus

28.11.2007 17:53

I didn't write the post made in my name regarding Mars and extra-terrestrials nor does it reflect my beliefs. For information on the real Stephen DeVoy, see the following websites:

 http://www.stephendevoy.com

 http://www.anarkhos.org

Stephen DeVoy
mail e-mail: srdevoy@stephendevoy.com
- Homepage: http://www.stephendevoy.com