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lets disable the comments feature on indymedia

uselesswoe & shittyluck | 06.09.2007 18:22 | Analysis | Indymedia | World

as it only serves for
leftists virtualpeople aggressivepeople idiots boredpeople obsessives vampires uninformedpeople zionists plants stooges police facists wankers twits and sillysausages to waste radical activists energy

anyone who has a valid contribution to make can contact the poster of the article directly
or
if this isn't appropriate start a new thread
or
most radical of all actually do something regarding what they are fucking moaning, criticising or generally dragging everyonelse down about

if people just want to talk about important issues why dont they do it live and direct with fleshandbone people around them - and maybe we wont be so much in an activist ghetto?

methinks indymedia would be a lot more useful and a lot less depressing if this happened!
can we find consensus?

comments below then?
tut

uselesswoe & shittyluck

Comments

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Crap Comments Suck, but...

06.09.2007 18:51

There are issues that there is not a consensus on, like the blowing up of the skyscrapers in NYC on 11/9/2001 so the totally crap comments are left up.

For example:

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/09/380363.html?c=all

Another example is war -- some IMC activists are not anti-war and some favour pro-war comments being allowed on this site...

Some crap comments will be from genuine activists with crap politics and some is clearly disinfo.

Background reading:

http://docs.indymedia.org/pub/Global/ImcEssayCollection/In_Times_of_Netwar_v0-9.pdf

imc'er

now alternative media tries to shut down free speech?

06.09.2007 19:27

Go back and read the goddamn Daily Mail. What friggin' planet are you on? This is supposed to be an alternative media source and the comments are an integral part of that process of "democratic" debate.

If you don't like some comments, then don't read them. In fact, turn your computer off, pick up a copy of your favourite newsrag and pleasure yourself with people who hold onto the same restricted world view that you do.

So much for anarchism and free speech.

Go and fry your face

fuck you

Define 'free speech'

06.09.2007 19:55

before anyone fries their face, ok?

undead

Disinformation and "Free Speech"

06.09.2007 20:05

Should comments designed to undermine, discourage and demoralise activists be left up?

Should comments from serial pro-establishment trolls be left up?

Indymedia is but a part of the terrian that the information war is being fought across, if you haven't noticed this see this article about disinformation and the Wikipedia:

Wikipedia and the Intelligence Services
Is the Net's popular encyclopedia marred by disinformation?
Ludwig De Braeckeleer

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=3&no=374006&rel_no=1

Should the CIA or MI5 or any other state terror mob be allowed to have their comments remain unhidden in the name of free speech?

No.

Indymedia is a site for radical speech, for the telling of uncomfortable truths and for reporting the struggle against oppression, domination, exploitiation and slaughter of the many by the ruling elites -- it should resist being co-opted, it should not be a platform for the propaganda and psy-ops of the Empire.

and how can you tell the difference?

06.09.2007 20:33

By hiding comments, how is anyone besides some IMC'er to make the judgements about whether it is a disinformation campaign. Isn't the idea of free speech enshrined in the phrase "I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it"?

The UK is already a police state with massive amounts of surveillance and disinformation ... if we can take this as given then we are already equipped to sift and sort through the Mi5 crap and discern what might be more realistic? Must we rely on an IMC'er to do this for us or can we be trusted to make up our own minds?

curious george