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israel admits murdering 3 children in gaza

against zionism and all racism / anti semitism | 01.09.2007 10:03 | Anti-racism | Palestine | World

follow the link below to read how an israeli military investigation has found that the 3 childrenn were just playing hide and seek and had nothing to do with any rocket launcher as they first claimed

 http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=25076

follow the link below to read how an israeli military investigation has found that the 3 childrenn were just playing hide and seek and had nothing to do with any rocket launcher as they first claimed -
 http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=25076

also look at the first report on uk indymedia of this incident 31/8 and see the immediate zionist stooge response as the first comment "just playing my arse...'

this cancer of zionist propaganda machine is a real (very well financed and organised) problem to activists against the occupation and it would be good if it can be critiqued and exposed for what it is on indymedia so that we can build an effective dynamic movement against this apartheid state. At the moent people are intimated into speaking out or not bothering because they know the wave of bullshit hysteria that will be the response to any pro palestinian / anti occupation posting

what sick society produces such a callous response to 3 children being murdered playing hide and seek
the same one pictured getting its children to write messages to the lebanese people on missiles last year




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Also seen the game described as "tag"

01.09.2007 11:57

Dare you to run out there and touch that launcher.

These not being LITTLE kids and having spent all their lives in a war zone, they knew what a rocket launcher is and that incoming fire might be expected as soon as anybody was seen close to it. Maybe even play pretend to be firing rockets. Just like their big brothers and sisters.

WHERE was the team member that the crew of this launcher left posted nearby their "piece" to warn civilians away?

WHERE were all the parents, who if unable to stop a launcher being set up outside their houses, didn't get the kids down into the nearest shelter?

The general "rule" for artillery.
a) Those shosing the site for a piece are responsible for drawing fire to very close by civilian positions.
b) Those counterfiring are responsible to keep their rounds within the usually accepted standards of acuracy of the target if civilian targets are nearby. But they don't have to withhold fire.

So no ---- to give some examples.......
If I set up a piece at a field where kids are playing football and as a result kids are killed by the counterfire I draw, then I (and not the enemy) am responsible --- say for not shooing the kids off the field.
If I set up a piece in somebody's back yard and the counterfire I draw takes out their house, then I (not the enemy) am responsible for not having chased the civilians out of their house which was too close by (so at least they don't get killed) and I amd respnsible for the damage to their house.

HOWEVER -- if in either of these examples the counterfire rounds fell way off target, not close to my position (according to the normal standards of artillery) then the enemy is responsible for what THOSE rounds do.

Mike Novack
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rocket launchers

01.09.2007 13:12

It's odd really - I mean, who would have thought the Israeli Army would be so sensitive about people firing missiles into their country? To think that when they saw someone by the launcher, they might leap to the conclusion that another rocket was about to be fired.

Two ways of preventing tragedies like this.

1. Stop firing missiles.
2. If you don't want to stop firing missiles, then at least keep your childrn away from them.

citpecs


hmmm

01.09.2007 14:39

you claim your against anti semitism, but you clearly aren't....why the massive focus on israel? yeah its a repressive regime but so is Iran, Cuba...why no posts on these places? I'm no fan of zionism, but you hardcore anti-zionists are starting to sound like the NF for fucks sake

anarchist


hates only approved states

01.09.2007 15:06

'anarchist' reckons: " yeah its a repressive regime but so is Iran, Cuba"

Indeed, and all three are well funded by the US, are occupying stolen land and are doing this because the corpoprate media supports them however much repression they spew out.

No difference between the 3 at all. It has to be anti-semitism after all.

twat!

a better anarchist than you


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Geneva Conventions

01.09.2007 15:59

Isn't there something in the conventions about not siting artillery etc in civilian populated areas?

Geneva Convention


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01.09.2007 16:16

fFrstly sorry for the mispellings in my post - im tired. Just in case you were confused, it
should have read " people are intimidated into not speaking out or just dont bother because of the wave of bullshit response...."
also
in reply to the first 2 comments, (just to prove the above point again and again)

there was no rocket launcher but
note these are qassam fireworks (not much more effective than stones) used as resistance against the billions of dollars of modern military etc machine provided for israel by the US.
note new US funding is 30billion dollars aid to israel over next 10 years.

You virtual, minority world activists make me fucking sick sometimes -

Gaza is the worlds biggest concentration camp / prison, the people are still resisting and due to their situation (and the situation in the wider world, this is true of all our resistance movements, no?) this resistance is screwed up - full of idiots, religious freaks, extremists, contradictions etc to the point where israel now can more or less just sit back satisfied at the situation they have created.
They can and do, deliberately kill children and other civilians (let alone going to the freedom fighter / terrorist dicussion) in the occupied territories with impunity because they know that even on uk indymedia some wanker calling themselves anarchist will still be questioning whether they can be criticised or not
Imagine if this was england occupying wales (again) and doing the same (again) would you still be so slow to criticise / act?

but children still want to play need to play try to play
and children are still dying

lets spell it out in black and white

Israel is a racist facist state from its foundations (inform yourselves read for example 'Overcoming Zionism' by Joel Kovel isbn 0-7453-2569-6)
the occupation of the palestinian people
is an enormous war crime - Israel is in breach of more UN resolutions than any other country
(inform yourselves some more check out www.ifamericansknew.org for some simple to understand comparisons of the situations here)
and has only been possible and is continued to be allowed to happen because of the US interests in regional politics, the zionist lobby in the US (eg AIPAC) and the european guilt complexes.

Why Israel / Palestine?
For me because its closest to Europe, its the most full on example of state repression and injustice to another people in our time / space and the situation here has the most knock on effects to the world at large.

To put a spin on the anti deutch slogan (deranged german pro zionist/US blackblockers)
I'm actively working for the destruction of all states but the states of Israel/US 10 minutes before the rest

bytheway my lover is jewish and my best friends - maybe they are selfhating jews and I'm a facist and the occupation is a figment of our imaginations...?

na cha
love and rage
NotFunny

NF =NotFunny


Apologists for rampant racist colonialism can fuck off

01.09.2007 18:05

Edward Said said in July 2001: “In the style of classical propaganda: To repeat a lie often enough is to believe it, that Israel is victimized by the Palestinians, that it wants peace, and that it is waiting for Palestinians to catch up with its magnanimity and restraint.”

Sharon - first a fruit and now a Vegetable


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So you say?

01.09.2007 22:59

"there was no rocket launcher" (patently untrue --- even the parent of one of the kids who was killed spoke of the launcher).

but note these are qassam fireworks (not much more effective than stones) used as resistance against the billions of dollars of modern military etc machine provided for israel by the US.
note new US funding is 30billion dollars aid to israel over next 10 years.

Let's discuss that shall we.

The exchange between Sergius and Bluntschili ("Arms and the Man" by GBS)

Now presuming your literary education might be defficient, I'll paraphrase the situation. Thye are both officers on opposing sides, Sergius an amateur and Bluntschili a professional. While on the run, Blunschili had hidden out in Raina's bedroom. When Sergius learns of this (he's engaged to Raina) he challenges Bluntschili to a duel, saying that he will meet him wiht his sabre. Bluntschili replies, I'm in the artillery, I'll bring my machine gun.

I take it my friend, that if you attack me with some minor deadly weapon, a rock, a knife, etc. you expect me to lay down my 12 ga. and meet you honorably man to man? Well guess what. I agree with Bluntschili here, it's not a game, and I'd blow your foolish head off. Understood?

Mike Novack
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