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US Official in Iraq: "The British have basically been defeated in the south"

wronger | 08.08.2007 12:32 | Iraq | Other Press

OK, I don't normally read the washington post, but stumbled upon this article today. Seems senior US intelligence officials have accepted that the British army has been defeated in Basra. It cannot create social order, security or reconstruction.

Excerpts from the washington post article. I know indymedia isn't too hot on reposts from corporate media, but this article is definitely interesting.

Basically, everyone and their pet dog (except bush, obviously) accepts that basra is fucked up, and prsents an example of what will happen when the americans finally reduce their military presence.

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from washington post, tuesday 7 august

As British Leave, Basra Deteriorates
Violence Rises in Shiite City Once Called a Success Story

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Three major Shiite political groups are locked in a bloody conflict that has left the city in the hands of militias and criminal gangs, whose control extends to municipal offices and neighborhood streets. The city is plagued by "the systematic misuse of official institutions, political assassinations, tribal vendettas, neighborhood vigilantism and enforcement of social mores, together with the rise of criminal mafias that increasingly intermingle with political actors," a recent report by the International Crisis Group said.


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"The British have basically been defeated in the south," a senior U.S. intelligence official said recently in Baghdad. They are abandoning their former headquarters at Basra Palace, where a recent official visitor from London described them as "surrounded like cowboys and Indians" by militia fighters. An airport base outside the city, where a regional U.S. Embassy office and Britain's remaining 5,500 troops are barricaded behind building-high sandbags, has been attacked with mortars or rockets nearly 600 times over the past four months.

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Although neighbor Iran's presence is pervasive -- with cultural influence, humanitarian aid, arms and money -- U.S. officials and outside experts think that the Iraqi parties are using Iran more than vice versa. Iraqis in the south have long memories of the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, one U.S. official said, and when a southern Shiite "wants to tar someone, they call them an Iranian." He said the United States is "always very concerned about Iranian influence, as well we should be, but there is a difference between influence and control. It would be very difficult for the Iranians to establish control."

The ICG study described Iran, Britain and the United States as equally confused about what is happening in Basra. During a recent visit there, the U.S. official said, he was unable to meet with any local Iraqis outside the airport base or to travel beyond the secured route between the base and the palace.


full article:
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/06/AR2007080601401.html

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Still

08.08.2007 14:10

it's nice to see MSM finally catching up with a glint of reality. Of course we all know that the Coalition had lost the war years ago.

The UK MSM has been edging closer to openly admitting our defeat in Afghanistan too. The NGOs are already aware of how the coalition have failed the very people they were supposedly so concerned about.

But of course, it was never about "democracy" and " freedom" for the common people. It was all about fossil fuels, geopolitics and jobs for the boys. And even from that cynical viewpoint they don't seem to have accomplished their mission.

Lets hope that the spiralling deficit, local sabotage of the the fuel lines and public opinion... and Russia's shit stirring... keeps them away from expanding their greedy atrocity to Iran, Syria and beyond.

But if an alcoholic can drink himself to death, what hope do we have for a culture addicted to murder.

Well well well


Lets celebrate!

09.08.2007 11:51

We should hold a party demonstration to show support with those who have successfully beaten the British army. This is actually great news, why are we not celebrating? What kind of anti war activists are we?

HCM