REMEMBER "CONSPIRACY THEORY" DISMISSALS? R4, 8PM TONIGHT. . . .a few facts
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Interesting background to a little spoken of fact of the past to get a program in the "Document" series - the spin might obscure a few of the details, but the "pattern" - of a few criminal ex-spy types - in this case from the loose global network, famous for its inept criminal schemes - (Paris HQ shut by parliamentary decree, 1913!) - tip others into fronting for larger "cunning plots" with "thule" type re-use of "elite under threat from bolshy mob" protection racket scams, as spun to BEF etc in 1919, then others, to S.America or the Middle East in the 1950s.
News Comment prior to your having "listened again" or recorded it 8PM R4, today - - - - a report from documents in the Congressional Library that got "cleaned up" mightnt include the good re-research done by a journalist in the 1960s that re-interviewed congressional comitee staff, witnesses, etc - or the front pages from the paper that French, the original enquiries journalist had worked for, meeting the ex-chief of the U.S.As Marine Corps when he took the "clean up the city" Police Chief job in the same city.
It mightnt mention the "background" bumblers that tried to spin their customers into trying to stage a coup, but the "who watches the watch" ("quis custodiat custodies" as people from Rome might have warned !) motto is in far greater need in these "ppp security" insecurity racket days . . . .
It is, though, the straightforward retort to people that say "that sort of thing doesnt happen", but put alongside the old Bogie movie about that USA "false front"/ pseudo group of patsy-cut-out-minion-cannonfodder types,the "black legion", that was also from actual 1930s courtcases, you could either say - "ah, yes, but it was a one-off, (two-off, then . . . . etc), or see that the M.O. was a repetition, or a pre-emption of a few other of the same sort of thing, across the world.
These days, people might get told they were "supermen" too, as the "opinion influencers" got their customers to "rally around the criminal scams for the sake of the free world, your 4-wheel, your holiday, yacht, luxury bunker," etc.
FURTHER COMMENT LATER - OTHER ACTUAL DOCs TO FOLLOW UP - THE FURTHER INEPT EXPLOITS of the ex-tsarist secret police - as "bint et sambain" post 1913 - follow in comments. For pre-exile, see cia website open access research from its magazine in the 1960s - also original editions of the "Protocols fraud" research book by Cohen, then, as with the "plotters" from the 1930s, assume a few of them didnt go entirely straight afterwards.
" . . . or are YOU that nieve!" - you might ask your "sceptic" journalist friends.
So, a way for a bit of sensible thinking to commence. . . .
It mightnt mention the "background" bumblers that tried to spin their customers into trying to stage a coup, but the "who watches the watch" ("quis custodiat custodies" as people from Rome might have warned !) motto is in far greater need in these "ppp security" insecurity racket days . . . .
It is, though, the straightforward retort to people that say "that sort of thing doesnt happen", but put alongside the old Bogie movie about that USA "false front"/ pseudo group of patsy-cut-out-minion-cannonfodder types,the "black legion", that was also from actual 1930s courtcases, you could either say - "ah, yes, but it was a one-off, (two-off, then . . . . etc), or see that the M.O. was a repetition, or a pre-emption of a few other of the same sort of thing, across the world.
These days, people might get told they were "supermen" too, as the "opinion influencers" got their customers to "rally around the criminal scams for the sake of the free world, your 4-wheel, your holiday, yacht, luxury bunker," etc.
FURTHER COMMENT LATER - OTHER ACTUAL DOCs TO FOLLOW UP - THE FURTHER INEPT EXPLOITS of the ex-tsarist secret police - as "bint et sambain" post 1913 - follow in comments. For pre-exile, see cia website open access research from its magazine in the 1960s - also original editions of the "Protocols fraud" research book by Cohen, then, as with the "plotters" from the 1930s, assume a few of them didnt go entirely straight afterwards.
" . . . or are YOU that nieve!" - you might ask your "sceptic" journalist friends.
So, a way for a bit of sensible thinking to commence. . . .
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