SNP becomes largest party

Earlier, the SNP leader said Labour no longer had the "moral authority to run things".

If the results are confirmed by final counts, his party will have ended 50 years of Labour dominance north of the border - but no party will have an overall majority when the new session convenes.

The SNP leader - who came from third to win the Gordon seat, in north-east Scotland - also condemned the confusion that resulted in up to 100,000 spoilt ballot papers, saying he wanted a "rigorous and robust" investigation.

He said the number of spoilt papers "reduces confidence and trust in the whole process". The electoral commission said it would investigate the issue as a "matter of urgency".

n some constituencies, the number of spoilt papers, thought to stem from confusion among voters, was higher than the majority achieved by the winning candidate.

The SNP's deputy leader, Nicola Sturgeon, finally beat Labour's Gordon Jackson in the Glasgow Govan constituency at her third attempt with a majority of 744, but 1,220 papers were rejected.

In Edinburgh Central, where the deputy environment minister, Sarah Boyack, led by 1,193 votes, there were 1,501 spoilt papers.

The number of spoilt papers in Airdrie and Shotts was 1,536, while the Labour majority over the SNP was just 1,446. Meanwhile in Glasgow Baillieston, the total number of rejected papers - 1,850 - made up more than 10% of the votes accepted.

"And then you've then got the voters, up to 1,000 and more in each constituency, whose votes have been discounted because of uncertainty. This does need to be looked at in detail."

 http://politics.guardian.co.uk/localgovernment/story/0,,2072877,00.html

Seems clear that human error on purpose played a roll in the 'rejected' papers. Plenty of evidence for it! Sure some errors by other means but a lot of people 'rejected' the ballots. Go the ants......

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/04/368818.html?c=on#c172877

Nobody does it better, makes me feel sad for the rest,
nobody does it half as good as you, Baby, you're the best.
I wasn't lookin' but somehow you found me.
I tried to hide from your love light,
but like heaven above me, the spy who loved me,
is keeping all my secrets safe tonight.

Nobody does it better, sometimes I wish someone could.
Nobody does it quite the way you do. Did you have to be so good?
The way that you hold me, whenever you hold me,
there's some kind of magic inside you,
that keeps me from runnin', but just keep it comin',
how'd you learn to do the things you do?

And nobody does it better, makes me feel sad for the rest.
Nobody does it half as good as you.
Baby, baby, baby you're the best!

A spoiled ballot paper does not quite equate to a spoiled ballot. Are you genuinely suggesting that 100,000 Scots spolied their ballot paper in response to the Vote Nobody campaign ? Only two Scots have even heard of that campaign and we ignored you. Fuck off you arseholes. You ran a campaign that played directly into the hands of Blairs Iraq genocide, and now you are helping cover up a massive electoral fraud. Which incidentally helped bury the genuine 'spoiled ballots' as surely as it was designed to spoil independence.
Maybe you are innocent, feel free to mouth off about Wales if you want, but if you want to co-opt the SNP rejection of Blair under a guise of 'Vote Nobody' then I would ask for three things

1) A shred of evidence
2) Some proof you have even visited Scotland
3) better song lyrics - ie:

If you don't want to fuck me, baby
Baby, fuck off
If you don't want to fuck me, baby
Baby, fuck off
I ain't got time for yesterday's news
Don't shoot me up with your bullshit blues
If you don't want to fuck me, baby
Baby, fuck off
If you don't want a piece of the action
Baby, take a walk
If you don't want a piece of the action
Baby, take a walk
I don't like it when you play with my knees
You ain't nothing but a prick-tease
If you don't want a piece of the action
Baby, take a walk
There's the door -
Where is your hurry ?
Get out.

If you don't want to fuck me, baby
Baby, fuck off
If you don't want to fuck me, baby
Baby, fuck off
You think that you are hot-shit I heard
You ain't nothing but a cold turd
If you don't want to fuck me baby
Baby fuck off

1 2 3 4
If you don't want to fuck me baby
Baby baby fuck off
Baby baby baby fuck off
If you don't want to fuck me baby
Baby baby fuck off
If you don't want to fuck me baby
Baby baby fuck off
Baby fuck off
In other words,
If you ain't got time to take a walk with me on my meat-rack,
Then you can just get the hell out of my bread-line
Yeah, fuck off baby


[Okay not quite guidelines but the best transcription anywhere on the web, totally appropriate, and better than the crap that precedes it - you takes yer choice. I wish it wasn't only my good posts that were hidden]

Wouldn`t it be very easy for the vote counters to add an extra X onto a load of SNP voters ballots-thereby making them "spoiled"?
100 000 scots made the same mistake eh?I effing doubt it somehow.
NeoLabour would try anything to keep the nukes and bases in Scotland.

BTW voting for "nobody" just allows the established parties to carry on the swindle in my opinion,and is never going to change ANYTHING.

"TW voting for "nobody" just allows the established parties to carry on the swindle in my opinion,and is never going to change ANYTHING."


I voted "nobody" Jon and here's what it did for me:

Faced with a choice of Lab, Lib dem and Tory I spoiled my Ballot, afterwards I felt by doing so I had solidified my belief that I don't want to be represented by bullshit politians, and that I intend to do all I can to to take the power back. kind of ritualistic I guess, but I came away feeling empowered even by this little snub. So it changed something in me, I didn't get suckered in the the false pretence of democracy, this election.

So you went all the down to the polling booth, you took the time to deface your ballot, and that made you feel better about yourself ? I really don't understand why. Even if you don't see tthe point in voting you could still have been doing something positive with your time.

I have a lot of respect for your other posts, fly posters, but when I don't vote, I don't vote. I do something more positive or I drink. Spoiling your ballot paper seems so ...what is the English phrase....sixth form. Beneath you. I don't believe for a minute it changed anything inside of you. I can see from your other posts that you didn't need anything changing inside. I also don't believe your only choices were 'Lab, Lib dem and Tory' - I'd understand your stand if that is true but I think you mean those were your only candidates with a realistic chance of election. So fuck them, if you've wasted your time by attending then vote negatively. Vote against them, vote for the local looonie, just to diminish their percentage share. Or don't vote at all. It is better to poke a politician anyway you can than just give them the finger.

I never used to feel strongly about this, but 100,000 Scots have just had their votes stolen by being misinterpreted as 'spoiled ballots' while voting against BlaIraq. No fucking way is that true. Maybe four of five thousand deliberate spoils, but I'm also guessing the 100,000 figure is being rounded down by that amount. So either don't vote as a protest - or better yet do something positive elsewhere. Spoiling a ballot paper is girny [ sorry, is that a Scots word ? I don't know. it means petulant and childish and embarrassing ].

I agree Fly,The current system is garbage-all the main parties are being told what to do by the companies and banks,but I can't help thinking that the vote nobody thing actually help the stronger parties.
I don't know a way around the current system,and I guess spoiling a ballot could be seen as a kind of protest in a way.Anyway at least its doing something by raising awareness of the false democracy we have been dragged into here and in much of the "free world".
Maybe the "votenobody" campaign will lead to other ideas that will have an impact in the future,which is a positive step I suppose.

Well I'm standing here looking at you
What do I see?
I'm looking straight through
It's so sad
When you're young
To be told
You're having fun

So unplug the jukebox
And do us all a favour
That music's lost its taste
So try another flavour -
Antmusic

Well I'm standing here what do I see?
A big nothing
Threatening me
It's so sad
When you're young
To be told
You're having fun

Don't tread on an ant he's done nothing to you
There might come a day
When he's treading on you
Don't tread on an ant you'll end up black and blue
You cut off his head
Legs come looking for you

I spoiled my ballot paper. In the area I live - Plymouth - my choices at this local election were Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, or UKIP. Neither of which I could bring myself to vote for even at gunpoint. Now, if I still lived in Scotland, I would have voted SNP, purely on the Trident/Iraq issues, but I don't so I didn't.

I do not accept that spoiling ones paper is pointless. I think more of us should do it, or not vote at all. Both are perfectly legitimate to my mind. The reason I spoiled my paper, was a) there was no Green/Independent/Socialist/Loony candidate, and also in order to register my disatisfaction with the so-called democratic process. Spoiled papers are counted, and every spoiled paper contributes to lowering the percentage of the victors share of the vote, thereby lessening their right to claim a 'mandate' from the people.

I respect everyone, well nearly everyone's views on this, but for fox sake, don't call those of us who spoiled our papers associates of the genocidal Blair, cos it's pure bollox, and it aint the way to win friends or influence people.

Whatever gets you through the night
S'alright, it's alright, s'alright.

"I respect everyone, well nearly everyone's views on this, but for fox sake, don't call those of us who spoiled our papers associates of the genocidal Blair, cos it's pure bollox, and it aint the way to win friends or influence people."

Okay, quite right, although winning friends is hardly my aim here - I'm not running for office ! I fully agree if you had no other candidates then spoil away, I had said that, I just find that amazing as I had about 30 candidates to choose from where I live. You really only had the three war parties to choose from ? Wow.

I also said we missed a chance to team up the Vote Nobody campaign in England with the Vote Iraq campaign in Scotland - if there is an independence referendum in 2010 then as many English anarchists as possible should register to vote in Scotland and move up for the month beforehand to help end the British empire once and for all. If you like it here you can stay as the day we get independence anyone resident here on that day can choose to be Scottish.

I dunno if anyone noticed but Labour are threatening legal action against the election results in Scotland. Ha. It was their election and their fraud, now it is their sour grapes. They really don't know much about winning friends and influencing people either. It is like Ronnie Biggs complaining about late trains.

'Tis true I am afraid Danny, that my choices were very poor indeed. I had the choice from 4 - Labour, Tory, UKIP, and Lib Dem. Here in Plymouth, it was a straight contest between the Labour mob and the tory mob. I couldn't bring maself to vote Lib Dem considering their mealy-mouthedness on, well, everything.
Incidentally, the UKIP bloke, can't recall his name, was in the local rag before the election arguing that drink driving should be de-criminalised. He used the most ingenious piece of logic I have ever come across. He said that driving is legal, getting drunk is legal, and that "two legal things should not add up to an illegal act"!!?? Now THIS guy should be on the stage lol

Anyway, seeing as everyone else is finishing with a song, here's another

I been doublecrossed now for the very last time,
And now I'm finally free.
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline
Which seperated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt I suffered
Not the pain I rise above.
And I'll never know the same about you,
Your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry.

Idiot wind, blowing through the buttons of our coats,
Blowing through the letters that we wrote.
Idiot wind, blowing through the dust upon our shelves,
We're idiots, babe,
It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves.

This is the third thread I've posted this comment on, feel free to hide it but I don't know if it is widely known yet. Neil Kinnock, the Welsh Labour Lord and former leader of the labour party is also a director of DRS. DRS are the company who miscounted the election up here. This is a clear conflict of interests that has to embarrass the NuLab spin merchants into stopping their complaints about SNP victories. They tried to steal the election and bungled it. Can you imagine the outcry from Labour if John Swinney ( the former SNP leader) was a director of the company that made such a shambles of the election ?

Now instead of spamming this news here, I'll post it on other sites and try to find out more about it. Is there anyone in Milton Keynes who knows the political history of DRS chairman Malcolm Brighton OBE ?