its a shame imc decided not to show this artical, i for 1 am very interested in what our soldiers think. especially as they get such a rare opportunity to voice their own opinions. well done on the job you guys and gals do at imc, but i do have to agree with tis artical.



resist and survive!

It's not news that there might be orders for the army to shoot British Citizens - sorry your references are not very clear-
But if I understood u right and wot yer sayin' is that it's shocking that that the Brits - by that I mean the army and 'their government' might open fire on civilians in these islands -

Well I suggest you get acquainted with recent history -

On 30 January 1972 in the city of Derry, there was a demonstration, on which 26 civil rights protesters were shot by members of 1st Battalion of the British Parachute Regiment led by Lieutenant-Colonel Derek Wellford and his second-in-command Captain Mike Jackson, who had joint responsibility for the operation; during a Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association march in the Bog side area of the city. Thirteen people, six of who were minors, died immediately, while the death of another person 41⁄2 months later has been attributed to the injuries he received on the day. Two protesters were injured when run down by army vehicles.

Many witnesses including bystanders and journalists testify that all those shot were unarmed. Five of those wounded were shot in the back.

No one has ever faced criminal charges for this atrocity

For more info see the link below

A link is not news.

Neither is the fact that non news gets hidden.

Had the link been presented with some kind of analysis, it would not have been hidden.

Just posting a link to see what happens might work on a bulletin board, but it doesn't work on a newswire.

The link for the hidden article is www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/04/367800.html

my sincere apologies.I hate to admit it.It slipped my mind.But i am sure you will define the difference with then and now and the north and uk still.Todays soldiers would not be the same lads.And to IMC you tooo are right i should have defined my point in a written article.

Sorry, mate - I presume you mean well - but I've got to call you up on some of your un-thinking presumptions

'The north' as you call it - was then and is still today - part of the United Kingdom.
The people shot then by the British army were British citizens

Those events occurred happened within my life time and those of both the perpetrators and the survivors
It is still the same political / military 'establishment' that runs the British army and state

Extra-judicial muders and institutionally sanctioned torture by the British state within the UK against UK citizens have been well documented over the past 3 decades

To discount the experiences of Irish people in Britain or of Black British people in Britain for that matter,
as being somehow exceptional because we are not the 'real' or genuine British people
is to collude with the racist presumptions of the British army and state -
and such attitudes, which regard some people - whether British passport holders or not - as lesser people - literally allows them to get away with murder - both in the UK and beyond it's borders

The British army is not 'your army' - it is there to defend the ruling class - not you -
the same goes for the British police

So please, check out our common history and don't be shocked that they would shoot British people

look forward to reading your article - once you get it written up
cheers

Some articles to study on LRAD found via digg.com

What is LRAD?  http://science.howstuffworks.com/lrad.htm


RNC-NYC: reported presence of long-range acoustic device (LRAD) at protests:

 http://www.boingboing.net/2004/09/02/rncnyc_reported_pres.html

You can see where K-ration is coming from though. Most English, Welsh and Scots are conditioned to think the 'powers' only act that way in Northern Ireland, and only in the distant past, and only to 'others'. You lot half-deserved for being born over the Irish sea after all - hell some of you aren't even the right religion. It's unconcious, just conditioned, but it does have to be constantly challenged.

In fact the tactics and technologies were only being trialled in the Troubles ( Ulster as in Eire ) before being rolled out nationwide. In thirty years time it may be common knowledge of the collusion between security services and far-right groups in the mainland today but unless you live through it it seems an unreasonable and paranoid suggestion despite the current evidence of MI5 murders in the '70's.

I was told by a sensible and reliable source that I would have CID following me around for the next month or so. Which is fine with me. Tonight is the premier of 'The Lives of Others', I think an appropriate film to take them to on a first date. You need to educate them if you want to rehabilitate them, so in that spirit :


My name's Duncan Campbell, from the shire of Argyle,
I have travelled this country for many a long mile ;
I have travelled through England, and Ireland, and a
And the name I go by is bold Erin-go-bragh

One night in Auld Reekie, as I walked down the street,
A saucy policeman I chanced for to meet.
He glower'd in my face and gave me some jaw,
Saying, when did you come over from Erin-go-bragh?

I am not a Paddy, though Ireland I've seen,
Nor am I a Paddy, though in Ireland I've been,
But though I were a Paddy, what is it to you '
There's many a brave hero from Erin-go-bragh.

I knew you're a Paddy by the cut of your hair,
But you all turn Scotsmen as soon as you come here,
You've left your own country for breaking the law,
We are seizing all strangers from Erin-go-bragh.

Well, though I were a Paddy, and you knew it were true,
But were I the devil, pray what's that to you?
If it were not for your baton that you hold in your paw,
I would show you a game played in Erin-go-bragh.

There is a switch of a black thorn I hold in my fist,
Across his big body I made it to twist;
And the blood from his napper I quickly did draw,
Aud I paid him stock and interest for Erin-go-bragh.

The people came round me like a slock of wild geese,
Saying, stop that that big rascal, he has kill' d our police,
And for one friend I had, I'm sure he had twa,
It was very hard times for poor Erin-go-bragh.

But I came to a wee boat that sails in the Forth,
I packed up my awl, and sailed for the North;
Farewell to Auld Reekie, and police and a',
May the devil go with you, says Erin-got bragh.

Come all you brave fellows that hear of this song,
I don't care a farthing to where I belong,
For I'm from Argyleshire in the Highlands so braw,
But I ne'er took it ill when called Erin-go-bragh.

I hate soldiers preaching on about being saviours, deserving our interest or care, you go out killing people for a living - that is your job - whether you do it for Tony Blair or the other moron Winston Churchill - it matters not. You are murderers, you think it is OK because it is legal - play that with your conscience if you have one.