You can't demo McDonalds, or Burger King and Wendys for that matter, they're PETA approved for welfare methods!

Who am I kidding, go Vegan and stop them all. Sod the campaign to stop M&S using 'unethical' farrowing crates, but encouraging them to kill pigs anyway! Waste of time, money and resources.

Total Liberation is the only way

>>> You can't demo McDonalds, or Burger King and Wendys for that matter, they're PETA approved for welfare methods!

What are you on about? PETA doesn't run any kind of "welfare approval" scheme, as far as I know, and actively promotes a vegan lifestyle. Are you getting confused with the RSPCA's "Freedom Foods" scheme (a salve to meat-eaters' conscience, IMHO) or the Vegetarian Society's approval of McMurder's veggie burgers (which led to my resignation in protest)?

I had a conversation with a vegan microbioligist once. They pointed out how easy it is to get McJobs. They pointed out your own bum is the best place to find EColi. They pointed out this would be an untraceable way to cripple the corporation. I personally find that a bit tasteless and if could face another burger I'd ask 'hold the gherkin, the spit and the shit please'.

Do you really want to be served food by someone with the crappest job going ? They are not 'loving it'.

This link may help in understanding 'Lib Now!'s comments  http://www.abolitionist-online.com/article-issue04_animals.lost.in.translation_dr.coral.hull.shtml

"Gregor Samsa" - hopefully not of the same name on myspace that 'has a certain respect for Pro-test' - who are a handful of cruel teenage perverts in the UK that support animal vivisection?

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. but the nick rings alarm bells.

No, I'm not on myspace using this or any other name, and certainly not defending vivisection. I use it on a couple of other boards, but not involving animal or political issues. Obviously, I'll have to see what's being said!

The name's pinched from Kafka, so I'm not really surprised that someone else has found it appropriate for themselves. Or I could start getting paranoid, and think that someone's impersonating me, but I'd be astounded if that was so!

OOOER! What else is he saying? Serves me right for not thinking up a more original name ;0)

PETA & BURGER KING
So PETA do not encourage people to go to Burger King due to their better welfare standards?
Take a look at the following links and you shall see for yourself that they do, infact, support these corporate killers >>>  http://www.goveg.com/corp_murderk.asp
"Since the campaign ended, Burger King has continued to lead the fast-food industry toward improving animal welfare..... Confine no more than five hens in each battery cage, require that the birds be able to stand fully upright, and require the presence of two water drinkers per cage (although confining five hens to a tiny cage is still horribly cruel, this number is two less than the industry standard and represents a marked improvement for animals)"

So they are even admitting themselves that what BK are doing is cruel, but because we're PETA we don't care that these animals shouldn't be there in the first place. But it's McDonalds we're talking about here, so look below.

MCDONALDS & PETA
 http://www.goveg.com/corp_mccruelty.asp
"On September 5, 2000, PETA called off its "McCruelty" campaign...when McDonald's agreed to make improvements in the way that it treats farmed animals. This marked the first time in U.S. history that a major corporation agreed to make farmed-animal welfare improvements [McDonalds agreed to] Stop buying eggs from suppliers that give hens less than 72 square inches of space per bird (the industry average was 48 square inches)...."amongst other things that encourage the killing of animals for food.

PETA AND WENDYS:
>>>>  http://www.goveg.com/corp_wickedw.asp
"On September 6, 2001, PETA called off its "Wicked Wendy's" campaign when the fast-food giant confirmed that it would meet the animal welfare standards that PETA negotiated with McDonald's and Burger King....[PETA required Wendy's to]require suppliers to give "laying" hens a minimum of 72 square inches of cage space" and similar guidelines to above.

NOW IT'S PETA & KFC
>>>> http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/petakfc.asp
"PETA is asking KFC to eliminate the worst abuses that chickens suffer on the factory farms and in the slaughterhouses of its suppliers"

So why don't they just admit that all these fast food restaurants are cruel, sick and at the end of the day are responsible for millions of animals dying each month? We don't die, so why not buy? Do it the PETA way and support animal killers!

Ah! Thanks for the links - wasn't aware of this!

Gregor, scuse the above post, thanks for the explanation, their is another G_S out there on myspace who is blatantly a turd ;-)