A racist state has no right to exist.

wow what a heap of twisted anti-semtic (or if the author caught in a tribe world prefers anti-jewish) crap!

"The German Nazis had picked each of them out, personally, for death while they were still young."
...and thus they have no right to a safe and secure homeland? Thus they are to remain passive for ever and stay in the europe (especially germany and eastern europe) that wanted them dead?


"The present Israelis are cowards who like to fight the unarmed women and children of Gaza and pick them out for death like the Nazis did to the women and children of Europe."
now this comment is completely and utterly nuts! the "israeli people" in your twisted "volk" view of the world hare becoming the perpetrators not those discriminated against for centuries and millenia. because the word is powerful you call those descended from the surivors of the shoah nazis! do you see death camps in ramalah? do you see mass executions or gas chambers? no!
there is injustice in the wall/barrier that israel is building, there is injustice in the arbitrary and degrading checkpoints and nightly incursions agaist militants, there are scared, young israeli soldiers that perpetrate abuse, but the state of israel is not fascist!
The state of israel is a democratic society with elected representatives, courts, draft dodgers, equal legal rights for women (at least on paper and in that regard quite a lot better than nearly any society that is predominantly muslim). There are even israeli fighter pilots that have spoken out and refused to carry out certain bombing missions and they faced orderly courts and as fair a trial as one can get under the rule of state and capitalism, rather than the lynch mob mentality that is strong with hamas and other undemocratic forces within the palestinian territories.

"Cowardice.

That is the first sign of a disintegrating country."
courage is the sign of a disintegrating country! the courage of those who see countries as vehicles to divide and rule the people of the earth, who see religion as a barrier between equals, be they man or woman, muslim or jew.


"When the young men are afraid to fight out in the open, one to one, against the young men from the opposite tribe."
i would offer a tract on how this says a lot about the author's view of designated male and female roles and the sexism inherent in that, but i hope that nobody even reads the article this far.

"Cowardice begets screaming fascists."
cowardice in the british left begets seemingly progressive forces to work with anti-semetic and anti-democratic forces.

fascism however is begotten by people who do not speak teir mind regardless of the circumstances.

So much hate... And then a manipulated image (the flag is really badly montaged by the way)... Makes it even less convincing. It is sad how little detailled and nearly anti-Semitic the analysis of the very complex Middle East conftlict often are in this country.

It's not middle english or german so it must be double dutch with a fair topping of fresh bullshit
Your not the Hans that does dishes are you ?
ISRAEL IS EVIL !!!

If the situation were reversed, would it be okay for the Palestinians to treat Israelis the same way the Israelis are treating the Palestinians?

In fact, would it be okay if any nation treated the Israelis the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinians?

Or are the Israeli people superior to all others?

And talking of lynch mobs, wasn’t it the Israelis who hung British soldiers from the Orange trees?

William Hughes July 11, 2006 "Imagine there's no countries...Nothing to live or die for...Imagine all the people living life in peace." - John Lennon Thanks mostly to U.S. President Harry S. Truman and his "susceptibility to Zionist influence," Israel came into existence in 1948. (1) Humanity, and in particular, the Palestinians, have paid dearly for his decision. The land on which the Palestinians had been living for centuries, in peace, with a minority Jewish population, has been gradually transformed into an Apartheid state by the machinations of the Zionist Movement. That Apartheid state, in turn, is today dominated by Israel's Death-Mayhem-and- Occupation Machine. (2) One wonders: What would the world look like today, if the state of Israel had not been created in 1948? Its improvident formation seems to have set in motion a chain of events, mostly negative, in the affairs of Mankind. In the movie, "Click," the lead character finds a "universal remote" that allows him to rewind to different parts of his life and to change what had happened. If I possessed such a "universal remote" and could stop President Truman from aiding and abetting the establishment of an Israeli state, then, it is my speculation, (a theory), that the following 25 propositions would probably be our present day reality. They are: 1. The U.S. would not have any enemies in the Islamic World. -1- 2. There would be no Al-Qaeda Terrorist Network. 3. Gasoline would be selling for less than $1 a gallon. 4. There would have been no 9/11. 5. There would be no USA Patriot Law. 6. There would be no Homeland Security Agency. 7. The Israeli Lobby's "unmatched power" over the U.S.' foreign policy, for over four decades, would not had existed. (Its support for the Iraqi War was deemed by the experts to be "critical.") (3) 8. There would also not have been any Neocon ideologues; like Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, Richard Perle, et al, to help, (along with other "Special Interests"), to push the U.S. into an illegal war with Iraq. (4) 9. Iran would not be the next target for U.S. aggression. (No Israel. No "A Clean Break" document. No Israeli Lobby. No Neocons. No need for the U.S. to attack Iran.) (5) 10. The Zionist fink, Jonathan Pollard, wouldn't be in prison for stealing U.S. military secrets and hawking them to Israel. 11. The three million-plus Palestinians, who were forcefully dispersed from their homeland, since 1948, by the Israeli Occupation Forces, (IOF), would, instead, be living happily there today, in a free and independent state of Palestine. There would be no Apartheid Wall, or as a corollary, a Hamas organization. (6) 12. Jerusalem would have a vibrant Christian population. (7) 13. Rachel Corrie of Olympia, WA, would be alive and well. (8) 14. The 2,544 Americans who have died in Iraq would be alive; and the 18,777, who have been seriously wounded there, would be fully participating in our Republic. U.S. taxpayers would have an additional $295 billion, (the cost of the war), in the treasury to use to serve the social needs of the people. Universal Health Care would be a real possibility and Social Security would not be in jeopardy. Iraq would be at peace. There would be no Gitmo Bay detention center, or an Abu Ghraib Prison, or a reason for the Bush-Cheney Gang to gut Habeas Corpus. No need for it to also employ torturers, or chemical weapons, or hold detainees without charges or trial. The Geneva Convention would be respected. The tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, who have died as a result of the war, would instead be alive today. (At the following footnote, see horrific photos of some of the Iraqi dead.) (9) 15. The battle to save our planet, its fragile ecosystem, its fast vanishing animal life and plants and to combat global warming, would be issue "No. 1." (10) Instead, we are perpetually bombarded with propaganda about defending "Israel's security." 16. If there was no Israel, then the "five dancing Israelis" on 9/11 wouldn't have been arrested. They were nailed after "celebrating" in NJ, while watching the Twin Towers collapsed. (11) 17. U.S. taxpayers would be $140 billion richer! This is the staggering amount they have shelled out over the last 58 years to support the ultra-greedy interests of the Zionist Cartel. (3) 18. The 34 Americans onboard the USS Liberty, who were slaughtered by the IOF, on June 8, 1967, would be alive today; and the 174 others who had suffered injuries that day would not have had to endure their horrific experiences. The shame the U.S. carries for not having quickly defended the men of the Liberty, and retaliated against the Israelis for their deliberate attack on the vessel, would have been avoided. (12) 19. On June 13, 2006, the IOF killed ten Palestinians, including three medical workers and two children, in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, labeled the missile attack an example of "state terrorism." Only God knows how many Palestinians the Israelis have actually wasted since 1948; or exactly how many refugees it has created, or how many homes, a la Oliver Cromwell, the IOF have demolished. None of this would have been possible without the dubious "state of Israel." (13) 20. Paul Bremer, a coat holder for Henry "Iago" Kissinger, would have never been appointed Viceroy for an Occupied Iraq. No Israel. No Iraqi War. No Zionist Bremer as Viceroy of Iraq. (14) 21. One of the reasons the Warren Commission failed to properly investigate the murder of JFK was because of Arlen Specter (R-PA), a card carrying Zionist. He was then a "Special Counsel" to the Commission. He concocted the preposterous "Magic Bullet" theory, which shut down any real conspiracy-type probe. It is also interesting to note, that Jacob Rubenstein, aka, "Jack Ruby," Lee Harvey Oswald's murderer, had close ties to Meyer Lansky's National Crime Syndicate. I believe the answer to who really plotted JFK's killing, died with Oswald. In any event after JFK's death, Israel's nuclear weapons program, which he had opposed went ahead. U.S. aid to Israel also increased dramatically. (15) 22. There would have been no reason for a French Ambassador to refer to Israel as "that shitty little country." (16) In fact, the Jews of the world would have been liberated to fulfill their deepest spiritual quest, as embodied in their religion - Judaism. According to the highly respected Orthodox Rabbi, Dovid Yisroel Weiss, "Zionism has hijacked Judaism." The courageous Rabbi insists that, "Zionism creates anti-Semitism...And we know...Zionism is the root cause for the pain, suffering and bloodshed of the Jewish people...and, they, (the Zionists), are the greatest factory of anti-Semitism worldwide...Judaism and Zionism is not one and the same. They are diametrically opposite...We should not be mistaken one for the other. And, we shouldn't be responsible for the actions of what the Zionists do...Now, another of the problems that emanate actually from the Zionist Movement is the fact that they are encroaching upon the rights of the Palestinian people, the indigenous people, who are living there. And, this is terribly wrong. It is against every concept of the Torah...So, whatever they are doing is totally wrong!" (17) 23. Thousands of Israelis have died attempting to build a nation in a land, Palestine, which belonged to another people, the Palestinians. Their deaths would have been avoided. (18) 24. The widespread spying on Americans, without a court order, by operatives of the Bush-Cheney Gang, would have never happened. (No Israel. No 9/11. No spying on U.S. citizens.) 25. On April 4, 2003, a European Union (EU) poll named Israel as the "greatest threat to world peace." (19) On June 27, 2006, the IOF proved the EU right by reoccupying Gaza, savagely terrorizing the civilian population, blowing up their electric/water generating facilities, conducting a mass arrest of their elected officials, and also, without just cause, provoking the Syrians. In response to the repeated shelling by the IOF of Gaza, Israel's Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, wisecracked, "Nobody dies from being uncomfortable!" When he addressed a Joint Session of the U.S. Congress, on May 24, 2006, Olmert received 38 breaks of applause and 18 standing ovations from that entity of mostly lapdogs. This is also the same Israeli leader, who, paraphrasing George Orwell's "Animal Farm," said that he had a "deep regret" about the effects of some IOF's operations which had killed 14 innocent Palestinians in just nine days, but that the lives of Israeli citizens were "even more important."(20) Finally, if there wasn't a Zionist-created Israel, there also wouldn't be any need for a commentary like this one!

no you are not an anti-semite for asking at all. i am not one to call everyone who critisizes israel an anti-semite, unlike many (not all!) pro-palestinian people i try to word carefully.

the discourse about israel however is extremely one-sided. of course the subjugation of palestinians is fundamentally evil and should be fought against. demonizing israel into "the new nazis" and often using classical anti-semitic imagery and phrases to do so is unprogressive at best.

i do believe that some british soldiers were lynched by israeli radicals back in the day, fair point, however i see no solution or israel/palestine that includes either of the fundamentalist branches of the two religions involved, which is where the lynch mob mentality lies.

awaiting more rational, debate, keep up solid, normative criticism and stop saying ALL israelis hate ALL palestinians on news platforms like indy that should be beyond such blatant stereotypes!

""When the young men are afraid to fight out in the open, one to one, against the young men from the opposite tribe." "

Digery -- I suggest that you read (if as likely you can't find a performance) of G B Shaw's play "Arms and the Man". Try commenting on the issues.

There is a difference between "warriors" and "soldiers" though one can be both. It was the Hopi, not know for being "warriors" who almost alone among the American Indians defeated and threw out the Spanish invaders (because they knew how to fight a WAR -- that war isn't about personal glory but winning).

You are confusing "cowardice" with "common sense". You are making the potentially serious miscalculation that an opponent who (sensibly) chooses to utilize every advantage available lacks courage (in other words, you imagine that this person would run from you if you could set up an encounter where they did not have such a preponderance of advantage -- that they would not act bravely IF THEY HAD TO).

Please understand, Digery, if you choose to attack me with a knife and I am holding a machine pistol I would NOT lay it down and draw my knife to give you a fair go. And I care not one whit that you might consider me a coward for blowing you away (I would consider you a fool for attacking under conditions of such disadvantatge).