Isn't a pre-requisite for a Pogrom, that the victim group be forced out?

The Muslim population of Britain is growing at a significant rate.

Some "pogrom"... Maybe it's a "genocide". "Ethnic cleansing" perhaps?

This just a bunch of anti-Western hype not borne out by any facts.

The claims that the image is faked based on the area highlighted is sheer ignorant misinformation.

Image compositting is a very simple process (but very difficult to pull off convincingly... even harder to fool a forensic scientist). Imagine you have a series of pictures and you have a pair of scissors. You cut out the bits you want and lay them on top of one another. Now this is where digital compositting diverges from old photomontage: in Photoshop (and its ilk) you cannot have one bit of a layer tucked under anything.

To tuck things under, you have to make the effort to delete data out the way or to make a new layer with just the bits to sit on top of the other layer(s).

Therefore, the bit you have ringed is so obvious not a result of any image fakery, it is startling that no-one has taken you to one side and told you "You're barking up the wrong tree!"

Whilst agreeing that the BBC is in step with the rest of the Western media agencies in pouring fat on the fire when it comes to relations with the muslim communities, which in some quarters like the Daily Star is pretty much 'incitement to racial hatred', I'm afriad your article sadly misses those very real issues and delivers a rehash of old tosh that could easily have been culled from PrisonPlanet or WRH.

Apart from that, the article itself does little to put meat of the bones of its title.

Youre looking at the situation as if the consequences would be immediate. Race hate crimes against muslims are also increasing, random stops and searches by the pigs on muslims are too increasing, arrests, and raids by the pigs on 'terrorist' muslim housing is again increasing. As the muslim community gets more and more isolated, do you really expect people to wanna stay here?! This is what British and in that case any imperialist nation's 'hospitality' and tolerance methods are all about. Racism, Segregation, Deportation, and Isolation.

Strong evidence that the anti-public suicide bombings are the work of agent-provocateurs: Were they originating from Moslems aware of the principles of Sharia Law, the suicide bombers would only be acting against the war voting politicians or against military and economic targets.

It is was very easy to get Moslems who had been bullied in school, or antagonistically stopped and searched in the street to take up violence against the society that rejected them. The induced psychological disorders make it east to mislead people.

The rot in the BBC has always been there, but became much worse when Thatcher had Alastair Milne dumped. That was being planned in 1954 along with inducing the Miners Strike.. It was a broadcast on the morning of an election in Thtacher's time that precisely fitted Michael Edwardes' forecast that caused me to write ""EVIDENCE OF A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST DEMOCRACY IN THE U.K" doing a google for exactly that yesterday brough it up. Doing it today does not. Are there censors at work?

"Ignored is inconvenient evidence including the advance warning to the Israeli embassy and the untidily Photoshopped Luton CCTV image (a railing behind the figure at the back passes in front of his arm)."
It is a rucksack harness not a railing, FFS!

Tony,

The real giveaway that this image is a forgery is 'Sid' Khan's legs are not reflected properly in the glass behind him. Sid is the first of the group.

I've discussed this at my blog  http://blogs.cjb.net/dissident/99345/ and cited doogal of the letsrollforums who I think originally discovered it at  http://www.letsrollforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8982&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40&sid=cc58cc43f9c312c97d34fb0f14d06a7d


Related - in that the official fantasy of suicide bombers of 7 July 2005 was used as an excuse to kill Jean Charles de Menezes

A recent article on my blog briefly discusses Gematria of the number eleven in relation to the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes  http://blogs.cjb.net/dissident/103316/

Gematria eleven is important in other 'ritual sacrifice' events.

Isnt a pogrom the systematic driving out /ethnically cleansing of a group from an area/region country ? there's no denying sections of the muslim community are facing police harrasment but its hardly a pogrom is it, your use of exagerated and inmflamotary terms don't do anything to further your aims, where exactly have these pogoms taken place ? where are the death camps ? where are the refugees ? basically your talking out of yer arse mate.....regards c.o.g

Well there is one you might have heard about on Cuba?

And perhaps you heard about rendition? 2,000+ "suspects" rendered but only 200+ at gitmo -- where are the rest? Still in secret CIA prisons or murdered?

CAGEPRISONERS PRESS RELEASE - 13th December 2006

Disappearances in the War on Terror have formed an integral part of the Bush administration's programme of secret detention. This latest report by Cageprisoners: Beyond the Law: The War on Terror's Secret Network of Global Detentions, highlights the wide-reaching extent of those countries that house these detainees, generally at the behest of the US government. The report shows that out of the 120 prisons identified worldwide, 72 have been, or are currently being used by the US to interrogate detainees.

By piecing together statements of released detainees, work of investigative journalists and human rights organisations, we provide the most definitive and up to date list of prisons used in the ‘War on Terror.’

Commenting on the findings of the report, Manfred Nowak, UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, wrote, "…Cageprisoners publishes a comprehensive report which reveals the systematic practice of enforced disappearances in a global network of secret places of detention."

Further the Chair of the British Institute of Human Rights, Geoffrey Bindman, states that in the policies of the War on Terror,

"This report is directed at one glaringly disgraceful element in that strategy: the detention without charge or trial and the physical abuse of those suspected of involvement in terrorism."

The release of the report aims to catalyse the process of bringing transparency to a situation deliberately shrouded in obscurity. Deliberately denying prisoners access to open courts or any semblance of justice, whilst being tortured and coerced into giving false confessions is not befitting of any civilised society. It is imperative that transparency swiftly be brought to this process, so that the innocent can pick up the remains of their shattered lives and be returned to their loved ones.

The report consists of a list of detention facilities, an accompanying document to explain the terms and provide analysis of the findings, and finally a map, pinpointing the network of ghost detention sites worldwide:

* Beyond the Law – Report
 http://www.cageprisoners.com/beyondthelaw.pdf

* Beyond the Law – List of Prisons:
 http://www.cageprisoners.com/beyondthelaw_prisonlist.pdf

* Beyond the Law – Map of Global Network
 http://www.cageprisoners.com/beyondthelaw_map.pdf

So, using Dizzy's fascinating hybrid of numerology, bible code and Aryan Nations anti-semitism, we could deduce that JCdM was shot by Jews because his uncle had chronic wind? Or because he hid food in a pit? Or because he suffered terrible cystitis?

Well, I can see the watcher having a laugh at IMUK's expense very soon. Well at least it puts the incredible claims of Photoshop fakery clearly in focus.

Can we hid the whole thing before more nutters latch on to it?

its simple and horrible really - a few are killing many for money.

The last commentator called for the whole thread to be censored by Indymedia before it attracted more nutters! I get accused of being a nutter often but it's always without any analysis. They are never detailed or specific like I am when I accuse Tony Blair of being dernged and deluded. So please witch-accusers be more specific. For example, this is how it's done

Tony Blair's Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Charles Clarke has just recently criticised Gordon Brown in psychological terms. This blog has speculated before on Tony Blair being manic. We now bring you a better analysis.

It is suggested that Tony Blair suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder incorporating mania.


Individuals with NPD do not respond well to treatment

1.

since they do not accept they have a problem
2.

since they do not complete a course of treatment

Therefore it is usually untreated. Blair may take medication which leads to weight gain or bloating. Dosage is difficult because the condition is not stable. Medication will take approx. 6 weeks to become effective.


NPD involves emotional problems

1.

empathy / emotions generally,
2.

aloofness and superiority,
3.

poor grasp of reality, because
4.

a self-image is created – it is the self-image that is important and protected. The self-image is often far removed from reality or any rational basis. Consider Blair's recent comments in the States re: inner-certainty,
5.

Lies – this is protecting the self-image,
6.

absolute need for adoration and respect (called Narcissistic supply),
7.

sensitivity to criticism,
8.

NPD individuals often chose odd people to respect. In Blair's case, he respects fame e.g. rockstars, because that's a source of adoration.


NPD individuals crave adoration – consider Blair's visits to the States. If that adoration is absent, they'll go off and do something else which provides that adoration e.g. The lecture circuit.


When challenged, sensitivity to criticism can cause withdrawal and depression. They have a certainty that they are superior to everyone else simply by existing.


Suggestions:


Personal criticism should be directed at the self-image which changes over time – it's as if it has to do gymnastics to survive. You are able to recognise this because it strikes you as deluded or far-fetched although you can sense that it's worse than you think, he really does believe it e.g.


“It's worse than you think. I really do believe it”,


"We will not win the battle against this global extremism unless we win it at the level of values as much as force, unless we show we are even handed, fair and just in our application of those values to the world.” in the States Aug 2006


The following quotes are from  http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tony_Blair


"A day like today is not a day for soundbites, really - we can leave them at home - but I feel the hand of history upon our shoulders, I really do."
8 April 1998, Belfast - On the Good Friday agreement.

"We are asked now seriously to accept that in the last few years-contrary to all history, contrary to all intelligence-Saddam decided unilaterally to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim is palpably absurd."

18 March 2003, House of Commons

"Do I know I'm right? Judgements aren't the same as facts. Instinct is not science. I'm like any other human being, as fallible and as capable of being wrong. I only know what I believe."
2004 Labour Party Conference, referring to the fact that no WMDs had been found in Iraq.

"He may want to pose as the nice Dr. Jekyll, but we know that, deep down, he is still the same old Mr. Howard."
Commons Hansard (26 Nov 2003)

"The spirit of our age is one in which the prejudices of the past are put behind us, where our diversity is our strength. It is this which is under attack. Moderates are not moderate through weakness but through strength. Now is the time to show it in defence of our common values."
16 July 2005, at the Labour Party national conference.

"Sometimes it is better to lose and do the right thing than to win and do the wrong thing."
9 November 2005, in the House of Commons during Prime Minister's Questions


"This is not a clash between civilisations. It is a clash about civilisation."

21st March 2006 - Foreign Policy speech at Reuters Headquarters, London, England



Wow, I can't believe we just met Mr. Bean!

--Homer Simpson's comment after meeting Tony Blair

I believe Tony Blair is an out-and-out rascal, terminally untrustworthy and close to being unhinged. I said from the start that there was something wrong in his head, and each passing year convinces me more strongly that this man is a pathological confidence-trickster. To the extent that he ever believes what he says, he is delusional. To the extent that he does not, he is an actor whose first invention — himself — has been his only interesting role.

o

Matthew Parris, The Times, March 18 2006[3]

Questioning 7/7 attack, like the loons who question 9/11, is inherently racist - it implies that white security services agents were behind the attack and that non-white muslims couldn't have caused the carnage.

This article shouldn't be simply hidden it must be deleted and so must any other post that questions 7/7 if Indymedia is to retain any credibility.

Is Tony Blair forcing you at gunpoint to post total garbage & hocuspocus? Thought not.

He's not a nutter in the legal sense. He's a cold and lucid mass murderer.

But that really has nothing to do with your antisemitic theories.

Here is the pdf file of the original Associated Press article which was a front page lead on the 8th of July 2005 in English Language newspapers round the world - but not here in the UK, land of free speech!
How did they know, was the knowledge connected to Peter Power and Visor Conultants' contempraneous 'drills' and have the police ever investigated Scotland Yard!
What is the point in forking out millions to pay for the mostly hard working Met. when their mostly masonic leaders are the biggest crooks in the land?
The SY Drugs squad were famously referred to in the Sunday Times by author of 'Filth' and ex officer Duncan MacLaughlin as the "most professional criminal cartels in Britain".
 http://www.bilderberg.org/cia.htm#Serpico
And if this police corruption doesn't stop RIGHT NOW Londoners should refuse to pay their Community Charge Council tax (which should be levied on landlords not tenants anyway).
Lets not forget the poll tax demo which - again due to the driving of a criminal police transit van at speed into a group of peaceful demonstrators kicked off the Poll Tax Riots in Trafalgar Square back in 1990.

In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connexion to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'. This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him. She also stirred a sort of envy in him by telling him that during the Two Minutes Hate her great difficulty was to avoid bursting out laughing. But she only questioned the teachings of the Party when they in some way touched upon her own life. Often she was ready to accept the official mythology, simply because the difference between truth and falsehood did not seem important to her. She believed, for instance, having learnt it at school, that the Party had invented aeroplanes. (In his own schooldays, Winston remembered, in the late fifties, it was only the helicopter that the Party claimed to have invented; a dozen years later, when Julia was at school, it was already claiming the aeroplane; one generation more, and it would be claiming the steam engine.) And when he told her that aeroplanes had been in existence before he was born and long before the Revolution, the fact struck her as totally uninteresting. After all, what did it matter who had invented aeroplanes? It was rather more of a shock to him when he discovered from some chance remark that she did not remember that Oceania, four years ago, had been at war with Eastasia and at peace with Eurasia. It was true that she regarded the whole war as a sham: but apparently she had not even noticed that the name of the enemy had changed. 'I thought we'd always been at war with Eurasia,' she said vaguely. It frightened him a little. The invention of aeroplanes dated from long before her birth, but the switchover in the war had happened only four years ago, well after she was grown up. He argued with her about it for perhaps a quarter of an hour. In the end he succeeded in forcing her memory back until she did dimly recall that at one time Eastasia and not Eurasia had been the enemy. But the issue still struck her as unimportant. 'Who cares?' she said impatiently. 'It's always one bloody war after another, and one knows the news is all lies anyway.

Way to go Tony. Top sleuthing. A single-sourced story that was later retracted and has had no corroboration whatsoever from any sources. A story with no timeline or specifics. What an evidential gem.

You know, they shot the guy who invented the everlasting lightbulb and destroyed his research.

I take it you have already researched and evidenced that the story wasn't total crap to start with (hence the retraction), that if there was a warning that it wasn't really shortly AFTER the bombs went off, or that the warning wasn't a planned diversion by the bombers or just pure coincedence (I know conspiraloons just don't believe in anything as nutty as "coincidence").

So, you can now share your research where you have spoken the story author, all the interview subjects, and can corroborate your allegations on a tested timeline?

Or, maybe just maybe, could it possibly be that you see guilty Jews because you WANT to see guilty Jews? I mean if you find this story credible, it would mean that the Israelis were the only ones warned and in turn that makes them somehow complicit.

But that would be a terrible accusation in the face of the corroboration* you are about to present to us.

*not prisonplamet, wrh, rense, shanghai news or pravda rehashes.

I'm not bovverred

Maybe I missed something, but that railing is not going behinf his arm, his forearm is rasied as you can easily see in this more enhanced image.

I remember this photo (with its inconsistencies highlighted) appearing in The Independent a few months back.

I suppose Judas Priest would say The Independent is an anti-Semitic conspiraloons newspaper…?

Oooh, if a newspaper ran it, it must be true.

You got a link to the story so we can see what it said and who said it?

I can't find it in their archive. Do you mean this Guardian piece?


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,,1806794,00.html


Here are a few extracts:

"Given such confusion, the proliferation of 7/7 conspiracy theories is hardly surprising. Ever since the Kennedy assassination, people's faith in the official narratives surrounding seismic political events has been steadily eroding. In their place have come what Don DeLillo, in Libra, his brilliant psychological novel about Kennedy's assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, calls "theories that gleam like jade idols". Such theories are seductive precisely because, as DeLillo puts it, they are "four-faced, graceful". Employing a 20/20 hindsight whose starting point is always cui bono - who benefits? - they masquerade as an interrogation of the facts but are actually a labyrinth of mirrors"

"At first sight, Dunne appears as far removed from this paranoid ether-world as you could imagine. Ushering me into her flat, she says she would dearly love to "turn the clock back to before July 7, before I had all these questions" and, for a moment, I believe her."

The article isn't very sympathetic to the J7 Truth people and is conspicuously lacking in any 3rd party comment on the validity of the image. Which is kind of odd since newspapers are chock a block with photoshoppers who could spot a composit a mile off.

Why don't you all have a whip round and get the picture analysed by a forensic lab?

But wait, I have a premonition, you'll come back having paid for confirmation that the image isn't fake and you'll assert that the lab is "part of the conspiracy".

Surely if some top photo expert from a shadowy secret state type operation was going to fake a photo it would have been well done and not open to such scrutiny, with out trawling through all the websites , can any one answer the questions as to why 3 of the bombers bought vast amounts of h2o2 from hydroponic shops in yorkshire if they weren't planning on making explosions ? do people believe that they actually purchased it or is this a lie as well ?

Posted by George Orwell, now you have to believe in ghosts as well as God. There is a full copy of 1984 in  http://www.msxnet.org/orwell/1984

Remwmber that Orwell went to war fighting alongside Anarchists against Franco.

The believers of the official "narrative" about 7/7 are credulous fools, but that's OK, I was one once and there is a cure.

To start with watch the BBC2 TimeWatch programmes from 1992 on Gladio, these explain how much of the terror attacks in Europe during the 60' and 80's were carried out by agents of the state:

Timewatch: Operation Gladio - Part 1

The first of three programmes about `Gladio', the secret terrorist network operating in Europe. Discusses the network's creation, after the end of the Second World War, from a group of Nazis remaining in occupied territories, and in resistance to the rise of communism. Reveals the role of the CIA in the political affairs of post-war Europe through their manipulation of `Gladio' and the network's influence in the internal affairs of almost every European country.

 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4900756773650110959

Timewatch: Operation Gladio - Part 2

Second of three programmes exploring the influence of `Gladio', a state-sponsored terrorist network organisation operating in Europe. This programme examines the Bologna railway bombing in 1980 ostensibly by the Red Brigade. The programme argues that the Brigade had been inflitrated by right-wing agents who conducted a series of atrocities that so terrified citizens that they called for greater state security.

 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=430206682910394510

Timewatch: Operation Gladio - Part 3

Third of three programmes exploring the influence of `Gladio' a terrorist network organisation operating in Europe. This programme examines the kidnapping and subsequent of murder of Aldo Moro.

 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3409375633223151728

The videos above might not be on GoogleVideo forever - they are also available via Bittorrent - search for them if you want to download them.

More info on the Wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Then watch The Power of Nightmares:

This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. From the introduction to Part 1:

"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created today's nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful."

 http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

Then listen to the Craig Murray and Nafeez Ahmed talks linked to above:

Craig Murray: Legality, Morality and the War on Terror
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/10/354417.html

Nafeez Ahmed "INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM: THE SECRET HISTORY"
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/11/356939.html

And Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone's showns,  http://takingaimradio.com/ on the 7/7 bombings:

Ralph Schoenman: The London Bombings
 http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim050713.mp3

The London Bombings, Part One: The Footprints of State Terror
 http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim050712.mp3

The London Bombings, Part Two: Inventing the Scapegoats
 http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim050719.mp3

The London Bombings, Part Three: Unravelling the Official Fiction
 http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim050816.mp3

The London Bombings, Part Four: The De Menezes Execution - Prelude to the Death-Squad State
 http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim050823.mp3

After that you will probably have a different take on the attacks of 7/7.

The comment from "." above asking for this article to be deleted for the credibility of Indymedia is laughable, Indymedia would have less credibility if people were banned for questioning the states story about 7/7 - what happened is nothing new, this kind of thing has been an aspect of the secret states imperial methods for a long time and the only antidote to it is for people to open their eyes, the "war on terror" is a lie and the false flag attacks can only be stopped by people stopping believing in them. It's time to wake up if we are to stop the next war (Iran, probably).

9-11 OPEN YOUR EYES THE WAR ON TERROR IS A LIE

The 9-11 International Inquiry (Toronto, May 2004) featured over 50 writers and activists who exposed the 9-11 crimes and subsequent cover-up. Here is a sample of the talks from some of the speakers: (in order of first appearance): A.K. Dewdney, Michel Chossudovsky, Ellen Mariani, Nick Levis, Thomas Kimmel, John McMurtry, Col. Robert Bowman, John Valleau, Michael Dietrick, Jamie Hecht, Ralph Schoenman, Kyle Hence, Jim Hoffman, Paul Thompson, Barrie Zwicker, Joyce Lynne, Bruce Gagnon, Rocco Galati, Phil Berg, Richard Sanders, Ian Woods, Michael Ruppert, Webster Tarpley, Ken Jenkins, Mathias Broeckers, Carol Brouillet, Jeremy Wright, John Gray and Bill Douglas.

 http://www.archive.org/details/911o

The official story being inconsistent doesn't make the "Truth" movement any less stupid. It doesn't automatically make everything fake or made up and it certainly doesn't make anyone who thinks that photo is genuine, brainwashed.

You would have to be a special kind of stupid or a totally arrogant zealot not to understand that.

Everything the "Truth" movements postulates, falls apart like a clown's jalopy- with no credible professional support.

Why the hell would Gladio change anyone's mind about 7/7? I can't see any logical path between the two, other than Gladio was activated by the other. Why is it any more significant than the Home Office wanting to look tough?

So the fact there is a dangerous officer in CO19 with a hair trigger and a boss that refuses to have punished means that four Asians didn't do it?

The fact that the Home Office keeps busting people on false charges means there is a grand conspiracy, an inside job? That's some leak and totally overlooks the possibility that MI5 are getting shit intellegence- possibly from people tortured by the CIA & friends.

The problem with the "Truth" movement isn't its questions. It's the fact it starts with a loded deck on totally mental assumptions and picks apart and distorts everything it can get its hands to reverse engineer support for a presumption= total rubbish.

On top of all that, it's a totally pointless diversion away from addressing the real crimes under our nose:

- 2 innocent suspects (at least) shot by the same CO19 officer and no action taken.

- Daily doses of Islamaphobia emanating from the mainstream.

- Seceral false terrorist attack alarms.

- UK airports used for illegal redition and arms flights. No action taken.

- The illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with MASSIVE civillian casualties, causing great security threats to us and paid for by the taxpayer. No action taken.

There is a mountain of evidence to support these issues and mostly the culprits are very visible. What has "Truth" done? Ignored it all in preference for planing paranoid Columbos.

I suppose you will assert that not a single foresensic image expert on the entire planet (not even Iran or North Korea) has challenged the validity of that image because they are all scared of the conspirators... unlike the few no-names that run a forum that nobody apart from their immdeiate family would care about if they burned to death in a car accident. Those ones have the conspirators running scared I suppose?

Total nonsense.

but ...WHO DID 7/7?? and why?

7/7 like Bali and 11march spain and the placing of Mohammed ATTA in Hamburg, Germany

all done to implicate the local intelligence services (THEY) and force their continued silence.

Here is how:

I (WE) am the CIA or Mossad and I need the foreign spy-agencies help to keep quiet about my 911 atrocity and other evil false flag murder in Iraq and around the world.

How do we achieve this?

Easy. WE find out which muslims they are having undercover contact with, and "help" THEM to justify ever higher budgets by supplying THEM with info about how dangerous the muslims are. WE let THEM give us documents that show how THEY are in contact with the "muslim terrorists" ...

Next, WE make the muslim terrorists throw bombs and kill many innocents in a most public bloodbath. WE do this activly, we supply the bombs, we even organize drills etc... no matter how WE do it, we are safe. THEY will never be able to implicate us, because they risk a public outcry if WE go public with the documents.

The only way THEY can get out of this is to wait a generation.

In the 7/7 case:

MI5 and MI6 must now make a believable case against muslims, however contrived,
to keep up the veneer of "honest fight against terrorism" and stop the CIA from feeding the documents to newspapers, documents that show how MI5 INSTIGATED DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

As they did. Kind of. MI5 did not plant the bombs, the CIA did. But they will not sound believable should THEY claim it in their defense.

Does this make sense to you?

Solution? IMHO for us PEOPLE the solution is to get rid of ALL INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.
It is better to HAVE NO SPIES that have employ spies that work against OUR COMMON GOOD.
We may have to suffer some consequences, but a government can never have the trust of the people, worse, can never really achieve any human progress, if it can be blackmailed.