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New York WTC collapse survivor gave public account

Hewitt | 08.12.2006 00:37 | London

On the evening of Monday 27 November 2006, William Rodriguez addressed
a public meeting of a hundred or so at in the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy
Street, London on the destruction of the World Trade Centre in New York
where he was working on 11 September 2001.


He not only gave an eyewitness account of what happened on that day,
but also talked about his subsequent experiences. He was introduced as,
amongst other things, the President of the 9/11 Hispanic Victims Group.

"I hope you understand my Spanish accent", said Rodriguez before he
started. In fact, though it was evident that he was not a native English
speaker - for example his verbs tend to be in the present tense, even
when referring to the past - his pronunciation of English was clearer
than that of the typical US American.

Rodriguez gave a confident and sometimes slightly theatrical talk,
followed by questions from the audience. He coped easily when interrupted
with a spontaneous question from the audience and addressed the hall
clearly with no microphone or speaker system. He said he had slides,
but they could not be shown because there was no projector and this
evidently didn't cause him any problem.

Before starting his eyewitness account, he said that both congress and
the government of Puerto Rico, where he was born, had made him a national
hero. He became the "voice of September 11". The Republican party chose
him to run for office and he had been trained at the Governing Institute.
This institution, he said, trains politicians in all things political,
including how to set up legislation, and how to deal with the media.

"But, when I started asking questions of what happened on that day,
everything was totally different than I expected. The government didn't
want me to ask those questions even though I was the photo opportunity."

He said that there are photographs of him with Hilary Clinton, the
President of the USA, top congressmen. The Republicans, he said, wanted
the Latino vote.

"And I was part of the game. I was part of the lie because I did not
know what was going on. I thought that we were going to get answers,
which we didn't."

"Once I get the recognition I started asking for the formation of a
commission to investigate the events."

He described how he and 6 victim's family members had approached congress
asking for a formal investigation.

"So we went on national TV and we placed on every television programme
that we could, a widow, a mother, a family member that was somebody just
to press for the investigation."

He made several points about the investigation. Firstly that they had
wanted a family member included and this was refused. Secondly Henry
Kissinger was proposed as the head of this commission. "and that's when
we went crazy and say NO". Rodriguez said that the press reported that
Kissinger removed himself, whereas "actually we fired him".

Thirdly he said that there was an agreement that FEMA, Department of
Justice, FBI, NORAD, State Department and the CIA "will be exempt of
any prosecution".

"Isn't that strange? Well it was very strange for the families as well.
And that's when we started - no doesn't make sense, something is wrong".

"We create the family steering committee, a group of family members,
the best prepared members that we have, simply to put the questions
that we needed to be answered. From 168 questions that we placed we
only have answers to 22 of them."

He said that his own testimony was taken behind closed doors and totally
omitted from the final report.

"They didn't want my testimony publicly, even though oh I was good for the
news. I was the expert for Telemundo the Spanish network, for Univision
for CNN in Espagnol - they have CNN in Spanish
- their expert on everything related to 9/11 but when it came to these
questions always edited always cut it into pieces. The Anglo media didn't
want these questions to be asked."

Rodriguez said ..."we started to find out so many things. Because we had
the access, we are there, we are going through the whole process"..."and
we realise that our own government was lying."

EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT

In a talk that lasted an hour, Rodriguez described many details and
events of that day, not all of which are included in this summary.

Rodriguez said that he was a stairwell janitor in the North Tower and
had worked in the building for 20 years.

He explained that the building had six "sublevels", B1 (or Basement 1)
down to B6. At 8:46am he was in the support office of his company,
American Building Maintenance, in the B1 level of the North tower,
talking to a supervisor - the name sounded something like Anthony san
della Machia - when he heard an explosion: "we hear BOOM - an explosion
so hard that push me upwards and everybody around me - push me upwards -
an indication that something just blew up on the basement below me. I
felt it. I heard it."

He thought that a generator had probably blown up in the mechanical room
between the B2 and B3 levels. As he was about to say this he heard the
impact of the plane "all the way on the top of the building". This and
the first explosion, he said, were "two different events." Suddenly
a man came running into the office shouting "explosion, explosion,
explosion" and he had the skin hanging off both his arms and parts of
his face missing. He was a black man from Honduras called Felipe David.
People started screaming when they saw him.

Then they heard another explosion and the building started to shake,
the false ceiling fell, the sprinkler system was activated and the walls
cracked. He thought this was a bomb. Other people felt the floor moving
and thought that it was an earthquake and stood in the door frames.

Confusingly, Rodriguez then said that as he was about to telephone
the emergency services located in the South Tower there was "another
explosion and that's when I said everybody out".

The ambiguity was that Rodriguez could have been either repeating
himself with another description of the last explosion, or describing
yet another explosion.

No one asked for clarification of this during questions afterwards.
To check this, I later watched the DVD that Rodriguez had signed at
the end of his talk (see below). The DVD shows him delivering a talk
dated 25 June 2006 which is similar in content to the one reported here.
In his DVD talk it is clear that there is only one more explosion after
the burnt man has appeared.

Incidentally, it was noticeable that in the DVD talk Rodriguez said that
the walls cracked, the false ceiling fell and the sprinkler systems
was activated after the very first explosion, and that, following the
explosion after the burnt man ran in, "the walls cracked again". As noted
above, in the talk reported here, he did not mention the ceiling falling,
the activation of the sprinkler system or the walls cracking until after
the later explosion, the one that happened after the burnt man ran in.

Be that as it may, the talk in London continued with Rodriguez describing
how he went outside and put the injured man into an ambulance. Outside he
heard for the first time that a plane had hit the building and looked
up and saw the flames.

After the bombing in 1993 an Operational Control Centre or OCC was created
in the basement of the South Tower. This was a control room with cameras
and emergency equipment. He reached it to find nobody there.

He described how, returning to the North Tower, he used a ladder to
rescue two people trapped in a lift that was filling with water from
the sprinkler system. "There was water everywhere", he said.

Rodriguez described taking them outside, and entering the building
again where he met a Port Authority police officer - his name sounded
something like David Limb - who asked him if he had the key, which he did.
Rodriguez explained why he was in possession of one of only 5 master keys.

The other four key holders, he said, port authority management employees
who were trained in "egress, escape, first aid, rescue", were the first
people to run out of the building.

In a slightly theatrical moment of his talk, Rodriguez produced a key.
"Ladies and gentlemen this is the key. They call it the key of hope.
It's already designated to be on the memorial that is going to be built
on ground zero. But without this key so many people would have died. And
without the help of God."

This was not the only reference to God in his talk. For example, at
the start of his account of that day he described the fact that he was
late to work as a miracle (because normally he would have been eating
breakfast on the top floor in the Windows of the World restaurant) and
added what sounded like "I guess he had more plans for me". In describing
his rescue of the two men in the lift he said "I was not a religious
person I was total agnostic I said God help me".

"Now the reason the key again was very important was because the world
trade centre was a class A building - any building 50 floors and above
need a certification called Class A meaning that three doors will not open
on the stairwells and one will open, three won't open and one will open,
all the way to the top. In 1993 - when the bomb happened in 1993 -
so much time was lost by the fire department just breaking each door.
Steel doors."

Going up to the lobby with the police officer, he found the fire
department there waiting for a lift. He told them there was no lift,
and went ahead of them up the stairs, opening doors with his key and
letting people escape.

Rodriguez said "I went in front of them opening the doors and letting
people out."

Then, after describing how the firemen were carrying heavy equipment and
he was not, he said "I found myself sometimes several floors above them,
opening doors and letting people escape."

Does this imply that in the USA emergency exits may be locked? No one
asked for clarification of this during the questions after his talk.

"Now as I went up I heard so many strange things, but especially mini
explosions" and when he asked the firemen about this the reply was
"it must be the gas tanks from the kitchens". This, he said, did not
make sense because the building, being a Class A building, had electric
kitchens.

On floor 33 he had a closet with supplies for cleaning the building.
He didn't explain why he was going to the closet, but he said that
while he was on floor 33 he heard strange noises from the floor above:
"so I'm going to the closet and all of a sudden I hear brrrrm - not
explosion - it's something being moved, heavy equipment being moved on
the 34th floor. It was scratching the floor."

This, he said, frightened him because the 34th was an empty floor: "I
mean you needed access to that and the only way to get in was through
the stairwell because not even the elevator will stop there. And why
do I know that? Because it was the floor above my closet and I would
go and have lunch on that floor because it was empty and nobody would
bother me. So to hear that, scared me."

His goal was to rescue his friends at the top of the building but he
never got higher than the 39th floor. On that floor he met the police
officer again and they discussed what to do next.

Then in another confusing part of the talk Rodriguez said:

"And while we are talking all of a sudden we hear BOOM - the impact
on the other tower - and it was so hard that our tower shake and all
of a sudden we hear pa pa pa pa pa pa pa horrible, strong and on the
radio the security guard that I have on my end I hear we lost 65! we
lost 65! meaning that 63 floor collapse floor by floor by floor up to
the sky"...

At this point Rodriguez said a word that I did not catch, and that is
not identifiable on my recording either, and he continued

..."the 44th floor and I was on the 39th floor 5 flights away".

The confusion is for example, that there's no obvious connection between
the numbers 65, 63 and 44. Again, no one asked for clarification.

At this point in his talk, Rodriguez said ..."that the world was watching
but we didn't know what was happening. The radios were failing for
the fire department. Motorola". He then said something about Motorola
being sued.

He returned to floor 27 to help take a man in a wheelchair
outside. Referring to helping to take the man downstairs in a rescue
basket, he said:

"as we go down the stairwell we hear boom the collapse of the south tower
very loud, so strong that the building oscillated and the fluorescent
lights on the stairwell, they started to breaking at once blah blah blah
all the way to the bottom".

Reaching the lobby he was "in shock" to see that all the marble had gone
from the walls.

He emerged from the building in time to shelter under a fire truck when
the building collapsed. Hours later he was dug out of the rubble by
firemen, and after receiving first aid he stayed at the scene helping
to rescue people from the rubble. Before leaving he saw CNN calling him
and he told CNN, NBC and Global vision "the whole story". He left by
boat to New Jersey and as he was leaving he saw building 7 collapse.

"I look up and I see building 7 collapse, a building that was never hit
by a plane, never, had a small fire and it collapsed in the same way
as the south tower and as the north tower. Now this goes against the
official story."

Rodriguez also mentioned that after 11 September 2001, ... "nobody was
giving help to the community. You heard about the red cross, raising
millions of dollars - that was not getting to the victims."

Moving towards the conclusion of his talk, he said:

"Now why do we do this? Because we owe the truth to the world. They have
used 9/11 to criminalise islam. They have used 9/11 to create a new
agenda. I'm not a muslim but it's my responsibility to show the world
that it's bad, wrong what our government has been using 9/11 for -
to create a war against the muslim community."

There was a round of spontaneous applause after this, the only such
interruption in the talk. "We owe it to the memory of these victims."

"So we have seen how they use our tragedy to create an agenda that we do
not agree on. In the very early beginning and you don't remember maybe but
when they started the conflict with Iraq they wanted the families of 9/11
to support the invasion because they said that it was a connection between
Saddam and Osama and they were both into the 9/11 fiasco. They said that.
But when the families stood up and they said NO! it doesn't have to do
at all with 9/11 they changed the tune to weapons of mass destruction."

"I beg you to enquire and support the families of 9/11, support your local
9/11 united er er kingdom group. We have Annie Machon in the back - Annie
would you please stand up - who has been gracious enough to hold this"...

A woman with blonde hair stood up near the back of the hall.

After speaking, Rodriguez took questions from the audience for about
20 minutes.

During a long response to one question, Rodriguez mentioned that most
families had received federal compensation.

"They didn't know. By receiving 1.2 million dollars for the death of
your loved one you were not able to sue the government, the airline
industry - it was a bailout - the port authority, no agency whatsoever.
And people were induced to take that money. And I was one of the guilty
ones that went on TV". He said that some commercials that he did on TV
were on his website.

One man asked whether the families apart from the "Jersey girls"
questioned the official story. "All the families question the official
story", replied Rodriguez.

The question session was ended with Rodriguez saying "David Shayler
ladies and gentlemen" as Shayler appeared at the front of the hall
appealing for money.

Shayler said: "It's only by getting this information out obviously we
can stop another 9/11 or another 7/7"...

He appealed to people who were in "left wing organisations" to "spread
this truth to those organisations".

..."and please don't think you can start doing something about this
in five year's time. The way we're going now it's going to be far too
late. So I ask you to dip into your pockets and give your effort now
please. Thank you."

Rodriguez produced a spindle of about 100 DVDs and proceeded to autograph
them for people who queued to buy them. Printed on the DVD is "WILLIAM
RODRIGUEZ National Hero What really happened on 9/11?" with a photograph
of him brandishing a key.

Rodriguez said that his website is 911keymaster.com

Hewitt

Additions

The age of Irrationality

08.12.2006 17:23

Counterpunch's ripping of 9/11ism is now available on the web and well worth a read.

One guy who thinks he heard an explosion that wasn't caused by the plane's impact doesn't overturn the obvious, Occam's Razor explanation for WTC collapses.

bob
- Homepage: http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11282006.html


9/11 Family Steering Committee Questions

08.12.2006 19:40

The unanswered questions from the families who lost relatives are here:

 http://911independentcommission.org/questions.html

And some of them tell their story in the film 9/11 Press for Truth:

 http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

Wikipedia page on them here:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_Steering_Committee

Counter Punch hasn't always supported the official conspiracy story, see this from 2002:

The Mysteries of 9/11
 http://www.counterpunch.org/loughery1001.html

And see this article on Counter Punch's coverage of 9/11:

Into the Ring with Counterpunch on 9/11
How Alexander Cockburn, Otherwise So Bright, Blanks Out on 9/11 Evidence
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/357932.html

And you don't need to believe that controlled demolition brought down the 3 towers, to see that the official story cannot be true, consider the people they claim hijacked the planes and their links with the security services -- this is a video of an extract of a talk by Ralph Schoenman,  http://takingaim.info/ with images and music by Kurt Nimmo,  http://kurtnimmo.com/

The Underlying Politics of 9/11 (Part 1)
 http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=575

The Underlying Politics of 9/11 (Part 2)
 http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=574

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Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11

10.12.2006 19:59

Thanks for the articles, "background". I had never read these.

Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11
by Bill Christison
www.dissidentvoice.org August 14, 2006

However horrendous the crimes of two of the world’s great liars and terrorists in Gaza and Lebanon, it is imperative that we not let the deeds of Ehud Olmert and George W. Bush distract us from another recent event.

The U.S. alliance with Israel and the power of the lobby that lets Israel so easily influence U.S. foreign policy have been major factors in allowing the monstrous slaughter of innocent civilians in Gaza and Lebanon. What is happening in these lands may also encourage Olmert and Bush to start new hostilities in Syria and heavy, possibly nuclear, bombings in Iran -- and this entire mess of neocon pottage may lead to a new World War and clashes of civilizations and religious fundamentalisms that these two wretched politicians seem quite literally to want to impose on the rest of us. It’s a tough case to make that anything else going on in the world -- anywhere -- could possibly be of equal importance.

But on July 29 and 30, and then again on August 1, something else happened that increasing numbers of people believe is of equal importance. On these dates C-SPAN rebroadcast a panel discussion, held originally in late June, sponsored by an organization called the American Scholars’ Symposium to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001. Held in Los Angeles, the meeting lasted two days, and the C-SPAN rebroadcast covered one almost two-hour wrap-up session. The meeting was attended by 1,200 people interested in hearing something other than the official story of 9/11. The TV audience was evidently large enough to spur C-SPAN to broadcast the panel discussion five separate times in four days.

Even a month late, this is a lot of airtime for stories that many people call conspiracy theories -- and for which many others use nastier descriptions. It is possible that the head of C-SPAN, Brian Lamb, so strongly disbelieves the conspiracy theories that he felt giving them ample publicity would discredit them further. It is equally possible, however, that Lamb, who seems honestly to believe in presenting various sides of most issues as fairly as he can (although not always giving every side equal time), tried to do exactly that on the many legitimate questions raised about what actually happened on September 11. In any event, C-SPAN has made a major effort to bring information on the principal theories about 9/11 to the mainstream U.S. media. Lamb cannot be blamed for the coincidence that recent heavy military activity in Gaza and Lebanon is nearly drowning out his efforts.

Let’s address the real issues here. Why is it important that we not let the so-called conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 be drowned out? After spending the better part of the last five years treating these theories with utmost skepticism, I have devoted serious time to actually studying them in recent months, and have also carefully watched several videos that are available on the subject. I have come to believe that significant parts of the 9/11 theories are true, and that therefore significant parts of the “official story” put out by the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission are false. I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. The items below highlight the major questions surrounding 9/11 but do not constitute a detailed recounting of the evidence available.

ONE: An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. Hard physical evidence supports this conclusion; among other things, the hole in the Pentagon was considerably smaller than an airliner would create. The building was thus presumably hit by something smaller, possibly a missile, or a drone or, less possibly, a smaller manned aircraft. Absolutely no information is available on what happened to the original aircraft (American Airlines Flight 77), the crew, the “hijackers,” and the passengers. The “official story,” as it appeared in The 9/11 Commission Report simply says, “At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour. All on board, as well as many civilians and military personnel in the building, were killed.” This allows readers to assume that pieces of the aircraft and some bodies of passengers were found in the rubble of the crash, but information so far released by the government does not show that such evidence was in fact found. The story put out by the Pentagon is that the plane and its passengers were incinerated; yet video footage of offices in the Pentagon situated at the edge of the hole clearly shows office furniture undamaged. The size of the hole in the Pentagon wall still remains as valid evidence and so far seems irrefutable.

TWO: The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them. A plane did not hit Building 7 of the Center, which also collapsed. All three were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11. A substantial volume of evidence shows that typical residues and byproducts from such demolition charges were present in the three buildings after they collapsed. The quality of the research done on this subject is quite impressive.

If the judgments made on Points ONE and TWO above are correct, they raise many “Who done it” questions and strongly suggest that some unnamed persons or groups either inside or with ties to the government were actively creating a “Pearl Harbor” event, most likely to gain public support for the aggressive foreign policies that followed -- policies that would, first, “transform” the entire Middle East, and second, expand U.S. global domination.

These first two points provide the strongest evidence available that the “official story” of 9/11 is not true. If the government could prove this evidence false, and its own story on these points correct, all the other data and speculation supporting the conspiracy theories would be undermined. It has provided no such proof and no answers to growing questions.

Other, less important points supporting the theories include the following.

THREE: For at least one hour and 45 minutes after the hijacking of the first aircraft was known, U.S. air defense authorities failed to take meaningful action. This strikes some “conspiracy theorists” as valid evidence that the U.S. Air Force was deliberately restrained from acting. Maybe so, but my own skepticism tells me that the inefficiency of U.S. defense forces is likely to be just as plausible an explanation.

FOUR: Some of the theorists believe that the 19 named hijackers were not actually the hijackers. One claim is that the names of the hijackers were not on the manifests of any of the four aircraft.

FIVE: None of the 19 hijackers’ bodies were ever autopsied (since they were allegedly totally destroyed in the crashes, including even the people in the Pennsylvania crash).

SIX: At least five of the alleged hijackers (or persons with identical names) have since turned up alive in the Middle East. Nonetheless, the FBI has never bothered to re-investigate or revise the list of hijackers. Does this suggest that the FBI knows that no one in the administration is interested in reopening any further investigations?

SEVEN: Numerous pilots have allegedly told the theorists that none of the 19 hijackers could have flown the airliners well enough to hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon with as much accuracy as was displayed. The debate on this issue simply raises more doubt about the government’s charge that the people it has named as hijackers are the real hijackers.

EIGHT: No one, except possibly government investigators who are not talking, has seen the plane that went down in Pennsylvania. Some of the conspiracy theorists suggest that it was deliberately destroyed before it hit the ground; others suggest that the plane actually landed in Cleveland and that passengers then were whisked away to some unknown destination. What happened to them at that point is simply a large question mark that makes it more difficult to believe this particular scenario.

NINE: Machinations in the U.S. stock market in the days before 9/11 suggest that some inside players in the market knew or suspected that United and American Airlines stock would soon drop. Two of the four of the aircraft involved in 9/11 were, or course, United planes and the other two were American Airlines planes.

It should be reemphasized that these items do not make up a complete list of all the charges made by the theorists, but they are a good sample. Anyone interested in perhaps the best summary of these charges should watch the video “Loose Change.”

To repeat, points ONE and TWO above are the most important. If something other than an airliner actually did hit the Pentagon on 9/11, and if the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center actually were dropped to the ground by controlled demolitions rather than by anything connected to the hijackings, the untrue stories peddled by The 9/11 Commission Report are clearly susceptible of being turned into major political issues.

A Scripps Howard News Service/Ohio University poll taken from July 6 to 24, 2006 concluded that “more than a third [36 percent] of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them, so that the United States could go to war in the Middle East.” The poll also found that “16 percent of Americans speculate that secretly planted explosives, not burning passenger jets, were the real reason the massive twin towers of the World Trade Center collapsed.”

A poll done by the Zogby polling organization two months earlier, between May 12 and 16, 2006, and using questions worded somewhat differently, suggested even more strongly that the issue could become a “big one” if aggressively publicized. This poll concluded that 42 percent of Americans believed there had indeed been a cover-up of the true events of 9/11, and an additional 10 percent of Americans were “unsure.” The co-author of the poll, W. David Kubiak, stated that, “despite years of relentless media promotion, whitewash, and 9/11 Commission propaganda, the official 9/11 story still can’t even muster 50 percent popular support.”

Whichever of these polls is closer to the truth, it would seem that there is considerable support for making a major political issue of the subject.

This should be worked on at two different levels. At the first level, the objective should be long-term, centered on making a maximum effort to find out who the individuals and groups are that carried out the attacks in New York and Washington. Then, these people should be tried in an international court and, if possible, convicted and punished for causing so many deaths. Such a trial, accompanied by actual change in U.S. policies, would show that some people on this globe are at least trying to move closer to more just and decent behavior in human relationships around the world.

At the second level, the short term, the task should be to immediately set to work as hard as is humanly possible to defeat in this year’s congressional election any candidate who refuses to support a no-holds-barred investigation of 9/11 by the Congress or a high-level international court. No more evidence than is now available is needed in order to begin this process.

A manageable volume of carefully collected and analyzed evidence is already at hand on both items ONE and TWO above. Such evidence should be used right now to buttress charges that elements within the Bush administration, as well as possibly other groups foreign or domestic, were involved in a massive fraud against the American people, a fraud that has led to many thousands of deaths.

This charge of fraud, if proven, involves a much greater crime against the American people and people of the world than any other charges of fraud connected to the run-up to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. It is a charge that we should not sweep under the rug because what is happening in Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, Syria, and Iran seems more pressing and overwhelming. It is a charge that is more important because it is related to all of the areas just mentioned -- after all, the events of 9/11 have been used by the administration to justify every single aspect of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East since September 11. It is a charge that is more important also because it affects the very core of our entire political system. If proven, it is a conspiracy, so far successful, not only against the people of the United States, but against the entire world. Finally, it is a charge too important to ignore simply because the U.S. government refuses to discuss it. We must force the Bush administration to discuss it.

Discussions aggressively pushed day after day about what really happened on 9/11 will be one of the most important tasks between now and early November. Such discussions can, one hopes, provide progressives with a way to jolt voters out of their apathy and inchoate willingness to support the status quo that they think gives them security -- and encourage more voters to stop supporting Bush, the Republicans, and the wobbly Democratic politicians who might as well be Republicans. A major issue like this, already supported by many voters, may prove particularly important in a congressional election year when new uncertainties in the Middle East, new possibilities of terrorism against the U.S. in retaliation for recent large-scale acts of Israeli/U.S. terrorism in Gaza and Lebanon, and the corrupt almost-single-party U.S. political system combine to make it more likely that supporters of Bush will retain their majority this November.

In terms of electoral impact, it would not matter whether heavy publicity did in fact force the administration to accept a new high-level investigation of the 9/11 events. Initially, the principal goal would be to contribute heavily to the defeat of both Republicans and Democrats who refuse to support wholeheartedly a major new investigation by Congress or an international court. This might result in the defeat of more Republicans than Democrats in November, but ultimately the hoped-for goal should be the end of a system in which Democrats are barely different from Republicans, along with cutbacks in the political power of wealth and the foreign and domestic lobbies paid for by wealth. These are the dominant features of our system today that have practically eliminated meaningful democracy in the U.S. This failure of democracy has happened before in U.S. history, but this time it is likely to last longer -- at least until U.S. policies begin to pay as much attention to the needs of the world as they do to selfish or thoughtless needs of the U.S. and of its military-industrial complex. Attacks on the criminal events surrounding 9/11 might speed this process.

Virtually no members of Congress, Democratic or Republican, will relish calling for a further investigation of 9/11. For right now, in addition to other motives, the issue should be used to go after those political prostitutes among elected office-holders who should also be defeated because they are so easily seduced by money and power to vote for immoral wars against weak enemies.

At the Los Angeles meeting of the American Scholars’ Symposium, one of the main speakers, Webster Tarpley, summarized his own views on the events of 9/11. He emphasized that “neocon fascist madmen” had perpetrated the 9/11 “myth.” He went on to say, “The most important thing is that the 9/11 myth is the premise and the root of the Afghanistan War and the Iraq War and the coming attack on Iran. ... We must ... deprive [the myth’s perpetrators] of the ability to stampede and manipulate hundreds of millions of people [with their] ... cynically planned terrorist events.”

Let’s give Webster Tarpley and other mistakenly labeled conspiracists who have labored in the wilderness for so long three cheers.

Bill Christison is a former senior official of the CIA. He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. Since then he has written numerous articles on U.S. foreign policies. He can be reached at:  kathy.bill@christison-santafe.com.


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Give the lies a break already

10.12.2006 23:31

CLAIM ONE: An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. Hard physical evidence supports this conclusion; among other things, the hole in the Pentagon was considerably smaller than an airliner would create. The building was thus presumably hit by something smaller, possibly a missile, or a drone or, less possibly, a smaller manned aircraft. Absolutely no information is available on what happened to the original aircraft (American Airlines Flight 77), the crew, the “hijackers,” and the passengers. The “official story,” as it appeared in The 9/11 Commission Report simply says, “At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour. All on board, as well as many civilians and military personnel in the building, were killed.” This allows readers to assume that pieces of the aircraft and some bodies of passengers were found in the rubble of the crash, but information so far released by the government does not show that such evidence was in fact found. The story put out by the Pentagon is that the plane and its passengers were incinerated; yet video footage of offices in the Pentagon situated at the edge of the hole clearly shows office furniture undamaged. The size of the hole in the Pentagon wall still remains as valid evidence and so far seems irrefutable.

FACT ONE: A downright lie. Substantial fragments of aircraft were found at the site, including turbines and engine parts. Photographs posted on CT sites show either the hole in the rear wall of the block or the ground floor (the plane hit at first floor level). There are substantial witness testimonies regarding the impact.


CLAIM TWO: The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them. A plane did not hit Building 7 of the Center, which also collapsed. All three were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11. A substantial volume of evidence shows that typical residues and byproducts from such demolition charges were present in the three buildings after they collapsed. The quality of the research done on this subject is quite impressive.

FACT TWO: Another lie. The patterns of collapse are wholly consistent with structural engineering models. The facades showed significant deformation well in advance of failure, indicating ongoing failure of the floors. There is no evidence whatsoever of controlled demolition, or valid explanation of how the charges were placed. The "thermite" remains identified by Jones have never been corroborated, and could have come from other sources. WTC was not hit by a plane, but by the collapsing tower. There are reports of severe damage for many hours before its collapse.

CLAIM THREE: For at least one hour and 45 minutes after the hijacking of the first aircraft was known, U.S. air defense authorities failed to take meaningful action. This strikes some “conspiracy theorists” as valid evidence that the U.S. Air Force was deliberately restrained from acting. Maybe so, but my own skepticism tells me that the inefficiency of U.S. defense forces is likely to be just as plausible an explanation.

FACT THREE: There is no evidence to substantiate this claim. The US air defences were primed against attacks from Russia, not inboard self-guided attacks.

CLAIM FOUR: Some of the theorists believe that the 19 named hijackers were not actually the hijackers. One claim is that the names of the hijackers were not on the manifests of any of the four aircraft.

FACT FOUR: No compelling evidence has ever been tendered to support this argument.

FACT FIVE: None of the 19 hijackers’ bodies were ever autopsied (since they were allegedly totally destroyed in the crashes, including even the people in the Pennsylvania crash).

FACT FIVE: What's the author's point? In any event, body fragments were identified.

FACT SIX: At least five of the alleged hijackers (or persons with identical names) have since turned up alive in the Middle East. Nonetheless, the FBI has never bothered to re-investigate or revise the list of hijackers. Does this suggest that the FBI knows that no one in the administration is interested in reopening any further investigations?

FACT SIX: Nope, this has never been substantiated besides people with the same.similar names. And how sloppy a conspiracy would it be if they were still alive anyway?

FACT SEVEN: Numerous pilots have allegedly told the theorists that none of the 19 hijackers could have flown the airliners well enough to hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon with as much accuracy as was displayed. The debate on this issue simply raises more doubt about the government’s charge that the people it has named as hijackers are the real hijackers.

FACT SEVEN: The hijackers had all gained their commercial pilots qualifications. The "numerous pilots" have rarely, if ever, proven their own qualifications.

CLAIM EIGHT: No one, except possibly government investigators who are not talking, has seen the plane that went down in Pennsylvania. Some of the conspiracy theorists suggest that it was deliberately destroyed before it hit the ground; others suggest that the plane actually landed in Cleveland and that passengers then were whisked away to some unknown destination. What happened to them at that point is simply a large question mark that makes it more difficult to believe this particular scenario.

FACT EIGHT: The author offers no substantiation, just speculation.

CLAIM NINE: Machinations in the U.S. stock market in the days before 9/11 suggest that some inside players in the market knew or suspected that United and American Airlines stock would soon drop. Two of the four of the aircraft involved in 9/11 were, or course, United planes and the other two were American Airlines planes.

FACT NINE: Air operator stocks had been vulnerable for some considerable time prior to the attack.



FACT TEN: Not CREDIBLE structural engineers, architects, CD specialists, or fire engineers have ever supported the CT case. That's right, none. Not even in countries opposed to the US, or in academia. So far they've come up with two retired engineers, neither of whom have put pen to paper, and that's it. Zip. Squat. Nowt. yadayada.

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Give us a break!

11.12.2006 11:36

This article is a repost and should be excluded from the site. BUT if youd ecide to carry it, then it is essential that the truth is given a chance too. Hence:

CLAIM ONE: An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. Hard physical evidence supports this conclusion; among other things, the hole in the Pentagon was considerably smaller than an airliner would create. The building was thus presumably hit by something smaller, possibly a missile, or a drone or, less possibly, a smaller manned aircraft. Absolutely no information is available on what happened to the original aircraft (American Airlines Flight 77), the crew, the “hijackers,” and the passengers. The “official story,” as it appeared in The 9/11 Commission Report simply says, “At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour. All on board, as well as many civilians and military personnel in the building, were killed.” This allows readers to assume that pieces of the aircraft and some bodies of passengers were found in the rubble of the crash, but information so far released by the government does not show that such evidence was in fact found. The story put out by the Pentagon is that the plane and its passengers were incinerated; yet video footage of offices in the Pentagon situated at the edge of the hole clearly shows office furniture undamaged. The size of the hole in the Pentagon wall still remains as valid evidence and so far seems irrefutable.

FACT ONE: A downright lie. Substantial fragments of aircraft were found at the site, including turbines and engine parts. Photographs posted on CT sites show either the hole in the rear wall of the block or the ground floor (the plane hit at first floor level). There are substantial witness testimonies regarding the impact.


CLAIM TWO: The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them. A plane did not hit Building 7 of the Center, which also collapsed. All three were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11. A substantial volume of evidence shows that typical residues and byproducts from such demolition charges were present in the three buildings after they collapsed. The quality of the research done on this subject is quite impressive.

FACT TWO: Another lie. The patterns of collapse are wholly consistent with structural engineering models. The facades showed significant deformation well in advance of failure, indicating ongoing failure of the floors. There is no evidence whatsoever of controlled demolition, or valid explanation of how the charges were placed. The "thermite" remains identified by Jones have never been corroborated, and could have come from other sources. WTC was not hit by a plane, but by the collapsing tower. There are reports of severe damage for many hours before its collapse.

CLAIM THREE: For at least one hour and 45 minutes after the hijacking of the first aircraft was known, U.S. air defense authorities failed to take meaningful action. This strikes some “conspiracy theorists” as valid evidence that the U.S. Air Force was deliberately restrained from acting. Maybe so, but my own skepticism tells me that the inefficiency of U.S. defense forces is likely to be just as plausible an explanation.

FACT THREE: There is no evidence to substantiate this claim. The US air defences were primed against attacks from Russia, not inboard self-guided attacks.

CLAIM FOUR: Some of the theorists believe that the 19 named hijackers were not actually the hijackers. One claim is that the names of the hijackers were not on the manifests of any of the four aircraft.

FACT FOUR: No compelling evidence has ever been tendered to support this argument.

FACT FIVE: None of the 19 hijackers’ bodies were ever autopsied (since they were allegedly totally destroyed in the crashes, including even the people in the Pennsylvania crash).

FACT FIVE: What's the author's point? In any event, body fragments were identified.

FACT SIX: At least five of the alleged hijackers (or persons with identical names) have since turned up alive in the Middle East. Nonetheless, the FBI has never bothered to re-investigate or revise the list of hijackers. Does this suggest that the FBI knows that no one in the administration is interested in reopening any further investigations?

FACT SIX: Nope, this has never been substantiated besides people with the same.similar names. And how sloppy a conspiracy would it be if they were still alive anyway?

FACT SEVEN: Numerous pilots have allegedly told the theorists that none of the 19 hijackers could have flown the airliners well enough to hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon with as much accuracy as was displayed. The debate on this issue simply raises more doubt about the government’s charge that the people it has named as hijackers are the real hijackers.

FACT SEVEN: The hijackers had all gained their commercial pilots qualifications. The "numerous pilots" have rarely, if ever, proven their own qualifications.

CLAIM EIGHT: No one, except possibly government investigators who are not talking, has seen the plane that went down in Pennsylvania. Some of the conspiracy theorists suggest that it was deliberately destroyed before it hit the ground; others suggest that the plane actually landed in Cleveland and that passengers then were whisked away to some unknown destination. What happened to them at that point is simply a large question mark that makes it more difficult to believe this particular scenario.

FACT EIGHT: The author offers no substantiation, just speculation.

CLAIM NINE: Machinations in the U.S. stock market in the days before 9/11 suggest that some inside players in the market knew or suspected that United and American Airlines stock would soon drop. Two of the four of the aircraft involved in 9/11 were, or course, United planes and the other two were American Airlines planes.

FACT NINE: Air operator stocks had been vulnerable for some considerable time prior to the attack.

FACT TEN: No CREDIBLE structural engineers, architects, CD specialists, or fire engineers have ever supported the CT case. That's right, none. Not even in countries opposed to the US, or in academia. So far they've come up with two retired engineers, neither of whom have put pen to paper, and that's it. Zip. Squat. Nowt. yadayada.

Architect


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This Article

11.12.2006 13:27

I object to this article because it is contrary to the Editorial Guidelines, specifically:


1. It is inaccurate and misleading misleading.

2. This newswire is designed to generate a news resource, not a notice-board for political groups. The article is little more than a link to the quoted site.

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