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Close Down Redwatch..

Mark Mozaz Wallis | 24.11.2006 12:24 | Anti-racism | Sheffield

Copy of letter sent to Dear Dr Reid (home secretary)

As one of the people who appear on Redwatch I feel strongly it should be closed down. No harm as yet has come to myself but I understand it has to others, please copy and send to  homesecretary.submissions@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk thanks for your time..


Dear Dr Reid

We believe it is imperative that you take action against websites such as Redwatch,
Noncewatch, Blood and Honour, Stormfront and the VNN site that incite violence
against individuals. We agree with Angela Eagle, MP, who speaking about Redwatch in
a Commons debate on 21 June said: "There appears to be a pattern of violence which
is aimed at individuals who are targeted by this website which cannot simply be a
coincidence. … Hate websites do not deserve the protection of the principles of
freedom of speech when they seek to prevent others from exercising their democratic
rights."

Redwatch responded by posting a photograph of Angela Eagle with a report of the debate.

Although the websites may be hosted outside the UK, the people who run them and
provide information to them are in the UK and their names are known. A court in
Quebec in June convicted a Canadian citizen for wilfully promoting hatred through a
racist website that he created and managed, although the site itself was hosted
outside Canada. The same action should be possible here.

These nazi websites not only incite violence against individuals but also offer
bomb-making instructions themselves or include links to other far-right terrorist
websites from which manuals on bombing and poisons can be downloaded.

Two men, Kevin Watmough from Leeds and Simon Sheppard who lives near Hull, have been raided by police. Both of them have previous criminal convictions and are connected to the Redwatch, Noncewatch and Blood and Honour websites. Within weeks of their computers being seized for examination by the police, they have reequipped and are back in action. Just how long will the police keep extending their bail?

We urge you to act now.

Yours sincerely

Mark Mozaz Wallis

Mark Mozaz Wallis
- e-mail: worldwarfre@riseup.net
- Homepage: http://myspace.com/darnallworkersparty

Additions

Search Light Magazine

24.11.2006 16:17

Searlight have been running a long campaign to shut down Redwatch.
 http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/
If you go to there website on the right there is a link to obtain free postcards. These you then send back to Sir Ian Blair demanding the closure of Redwatch. They are pre-written and you just add your name and address. I think you can get about 20 at a time.

labrat666

Comments

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Yeah, take them down!!

24.11.2006 12:46

And while you are at it, you might consider taking a swipe at indymedia too because some of the contributors in the anti-fa threads seem to promote the same violence against individuals and post their photos etc. Of course they are right and the fash are wrong so perhaps it's ok to leave up indymedia and just take down the nasty peoples websites. Yeah, ignore me, please don't touch indymedia or create new laws that would empower the police to act against not only nasty nazi people promoting violence but also people on sites such as this. Oh dear, look what we've started now...

uncle jo

No new laws required

24.11.2006 13:19

Redwatch is very different to Indymedia - it targets journalists, social activists and individuals based on race and sexual preference. This is already against the law and, if the site were hosted in the UK, it would have been shut down long ago. It's only because it's externally hosted that it still exists and action needs to be taken.

Donnacha

in response to uncle jo

24.11.2006 14:59

the aims and aspirations of the redwatch website is to incite the hooligan neo nazi element amongst their ranks to take violent action against named and pictured individuals whose methods of protest they take expection to for this reason redwatch should be taken down as many if not the majority of the people named and photographed are incapable of defending themselves.....the response by certain individuals who claim to be part of the ant nazi movement to postings concerning the activities of alleged members of the BNP and other facist splinter groups in the region on this site is equally repugnant,in some cases the anti nazis are as bad than the nazis.the best way to beat the BNP is to win the intellectual arguement lobby the mainstream political parties to address the issues of concern amongst the public that the BNP have taken on and sadly are making headway with especially in local government in the north west,isolate the BNP by convincing the general public what a bunch of lunatics they are with no coherant agenda concerning public services,the enviroment,education,health and so on. postings with the mafia mentality of "they fire bombed one of our number so we fire bombed one of theirs" as is tolerated on this website from time to time is sadly an indication of the hypocracy of the webmasters/administrators who seem to turn a blind eye as the unsults fly back and forth.
audiotech

audiotech
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Redwatch is dead!

24.11.2006 17:38

Redwatch is dead. It is updated very rarely, and the majority of photo's published are stollen from Indymedia. They are not getting any new details for left-wing activists and no attacks have happened as a result for ages.

Redwatch is simply a joke, and a shambles of its' former self.

Fuck the fash!

Anarko

Bit of a joke really...

24.11.2006 22:12

Redwatch is a typical case of hype from the liberal left.

While the intentions of the site itself are abhorrent, and the odious little goblin that runs it is equally repugnant, its actually a bit of a joke.

Taking a look at the 'intelligence' on display, its all publically-available information about 'soft-targets', the photos are either lifted from lefty sites or they're long-distance photos full of anonymous faces from lefty demos. Hardly James Bond stuff is it?

Some anti-fascist activists have obviously been targetted in fairly unpleasant ways as a result of information taken from this site, although I suspect spam e-mail and some abusive answerphone messages is the best they can normally offer... but that would happen anyway!

The site is run by Kevin Watmough, who has for some time been rumoured to be a state asset, and the fact that out of all the information posted on there, I can't find anything significant about any militant antifascists would suggest to me that the purpose of the site is to worry the liberal left.

As it stands, I can't see what good banning it would do - any precedent set in doing so would inevitably be used against antifascists or left/anarchist radical groups. Asking the state to sort out the problem has always historically ended in tears.

I think Redwatch, much like the charcters that run it, is a shambolic joke with more than a slight whiff of state involvement. Why worry about it, and why give the Rampton-cases involved any more ego-boosts?

Yorkshire RASH

The state already knows about anti-fascists!

25.11.2006 03:53

If the police take a dislike to you, they don't need to put your photo on RedWatch!

It is clear that the police work arm in arm and shoulder to shoulder with the far right, Blair loves the scum because he can pose as a liberal.

If only a few people on RedWatch have been attacked, that is a blessing not helped by the MI5.

If the BNP/C18/MI5 wanted to attack someone, it is quite obvious they would do it with the complicity of the Blairite scum.

Remember who had Liebknecht and Luxemburg killed - yes the social democrats (ie. the German Labour Party)

The attack on the Liverpool trade unionist was an messagfe from the state that they aren't to be messed with.

Uncle Joe

I object..

26.11.2006 08:26

Fair points but i must note i object to Searchlight addition being placed here.. We deal them by whatever means and on the streets as in Blacpool perhaps an Indymedia mod would care to remove the Searchlight addition..

Mark Mozaz Wallis

Mark Mozaz Wallis
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