Don't believe the hype!- 9/11 Truth Debunked
various | 13.07.2006 11:47
The linked site is collection of examinations of the various claims of the so-called 9/11 Truth movement, various documents and witness testimonies.
I found this document that deconstructs the woefully selective and inaccurate Loose Change 2 particularly informative.
http://tinyurl.com/epp82
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This guide is meant to be a companion to, not a substitute for, the video itself. For one thing, I had to greatly reduce the resolution of the video screenshots in this document in order to keep the file size manageable. The video looks a lot better. “Loose Change Second Edition” is available as a free bittorrent download, as a Google Video stream, and for purchase from the Loose Change website. The creators of Loose Change also have an internet forum where you can discuss the video and 9/11 conspiracy-related issues. I encourage you to sign up there and let them know how you feel about their efforts.
Fittingly, this is the second edition of this critique. The first was done in six long nights, because I wanted to hand copies of it to the creators of “Loose Change” when they were in New York to protest the premiere of the movie “United 93” on April 25, 2006. Because that version was written in the heat of the moment, it contained more obvious anger and sarcasm directed towards the creators of Loose Change. That anger hasn’t abated, but cooler heads than mine have convinced me that cutting down on the “cutting” remarks should help me get my points across more effectively.
The text transcription of the video is not mine, and I have not corrected typos in it. With a few small exceptions, it is a verbatim transcription of “Loose Change’s” narration.
I have incorporated additions and deletions suggested by several people who read the first draft. I am especially indebted to Mike at 911myths.com, who took the time, unsolicited, to suggest additions and corrections. I think his site is by far the best source on the internet for evenhanded examination of controversial issues surrounding the terrorist attacks.
The comments and opinions in red on these pages are mine only and do not represent the opinions of the creators of “Loose Change” or Louder Than Words, LLC. I am not supported by, and do not represent, any group or organization, and I have no political or financial interest in these matters.
I put this document together for several reasons:
1.To promote understanding of the facts about the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and to discourage relying on rumor and conjecture when searching for the “truth.”
2.Because I believe that “Loose Change” is an influential introduction for many people to 9/11 conspiracy issues.
3.To encourage respect for the victims, living and dead, of the 9/11 attacks.
My comments and analysis are mostly restricted to the issues raised by the video. At the end of this document are links to websites with in-depth analyses of 9/11 conspiracy theories, as well as links to the “official” version of events and to other analyses by experts and laymen.
Also at the end of this document is a summary of the numbers and types of errors that I found in “Loose Change.” Not every error was noted or commented on in the transcription section, nor does every comment I made there count as an “error” in my tallies. And no, I didn’t count typos in the transcript as errors.
To keep you from jumping to the end, I’ll tell you now that in this hour and twenty-minute video I counted 81 errors of fact (statements like “1+1 = 3”). In addition, I counted 345 instances of conjecture not supported by evidence, logical fallacies, uses of images that do not support the conclusions being drawn, and other flubs. And that’s only counting errors of commission. The errors of omission are more serious. (Note: I have turned up more errors while doing this update, but I find it too depressing to count them.)
I welcome any well-researched corrections to my statements and will incorporate them into this document (after checking them out!). Submit constructive criticism to
itmatters@mail.com.
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This guide is meant to be a companion to, not a substitute for, the video itself. For one thing, I had to greatly reduce the resolution of the video screenshots in this document in order to keep the file size manageable. The video looks a lot better. “Loose Change Second Edition” is available as a free bittorrent download, as a Google Video stream, and for purchase from the Loose Change website. The creators of Loose Change also have an internet forum where you can discuss the video and 9/11 conspiracy-related issues. I encourage you to sign up there and let them know how you feel about their efforts.
Fittingly, this is the second edition of this critique. The first was done in six long nights, because I wanted to hand copies of it to the creators of “Loose Change” when they were in New York to protest the premiere of the movie “United 93” on April 25, 2006. Because that version was written in the heat of the moment, it contained more obvious anger and sarcasm directed towards the creators of Loose Change. That anger hasn’t abated, but cooler heads than mine have convinced me that cutting down on the “cutting” remarks should help me get my points across more effectively.
The text transcription of the video is not mine, and I have not corrected typos in it. With a few small exceptions, it is a verbatim transcription of “Loose Change’s” narration.
I have incorporated additions and deletions suggested by several people who read the first draft. I am especially indebted to Mike at 911myths.com, who took the time, unsolicited, to suggest additions and corrections. I think his site is by far the best source on the internet for evenhanded examination of controversial issues surrounding the terrorist attacks.
The comments and opinions in red on these pages are mine only and do not represent the opinions of the creators of “Loose Change” or Louder Than Words, LLC. I am not supported by, and do not represent, any group or organization, and I have no political or financial interest in these matters.
I put this document together for several reasons:
1.To promote understanding of the facts about the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and to discourage relying on rumor and conjecture when searching for the “truth.”
2.Because I believe that “Loose Change” is an influential introduction for many people to 9/11 conspiracy issues.
3.To encourage respect for the victims, living and dead, of the 9/11 attacks.
My comments and analysis are mostly restricted to the issues raised by the video. At the end of this document are links to websites with in-depth analyses of 9/11 conspiracy theories, as well as links to the “official” version of events and to other analyses by experts and laymen.
Also at the end of this document is a summary of the numbers and types of errors that I found in “Loose Change.” Not every error was noted or commented on in the transcription section, nor does every comment I made there count as an “error” in my tallies. And no, I didn’t count typos in the transcript as errors.
To keep you from jumping to the end, I’ll tell you now that in this hour and twenty-minute video I counted 81 errors of fact (statements like “1+1 = 3”). In addition, I counted 345 instances of conjecture not supported by evidence, logical fallacies, uses of images that do not support the conclusions being drawn, and other flubs. And that’s only counting errors of commission. The errors of omission are more serious. (Note: I have turned up more errors while doing this update, but I find it too depressing to count them.)
I welcome any well-researched corrections to my statements and will incorporate them into this document (after checking them out!). Submit constructive criticism to
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various
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Perhaps the final edition will be better...
13.07.2006 12:11
However on issues such as the controlled demolition of the 3 skyscraper Loose Change does it it right, see this paper for more on this:
Also this film has been mentioned on this site before:
Loose Change Final Edition is due out in September, hopefully they will have fixed some of the problems with it...
sheffer
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http://sheffield.indymedia.org.uk/
911myths.com
13.07.2006 12:37
"Finally let me say that although I have not done any calculations for other WTC structures, the collapse of WTC7 is a problem! I say this mainly because WTC7 was not hit by an aircraft; therefore I admit it is very suprising that this high-rise building should have collapsed without being subject to an aircraft impact."
But at the end of the day most of the stuff on 911myths.com is even more far fetched than the official conspiracy theory and this is crazy compared with things like the analysis of the physics of the collapse.
911myths science has been disussed on this site before, for example:
shadowplay
Wow!
13.07.2006 12:41
various
Put Up Or Shut Up
14.07.2006 15:34
Five years after the fact ...
Bush/PNAC The Wild Conspiracy Nuts
Double dare you
14.07.2006 17:57
Danny
Strike Three, Plant
16.07.2006 21:52
Five years after the fact ...
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
Hey Jordan
20.07.2006 16:12
Inactivist