. . . . the caricature of people that write in or use this media tends to "throw out the baby with the bathwater" too fast, at times, when it comes to "national" or "patron saint"flags - except when its perceived that said "nation" or group of nations/peoples are under attack or under threat of enslavement or some "occupied europe" scenario. . . .

(mmmm - quite) ( got your barcode yet????) . . . . -but since that old K. Allen soccer single - its - again - seemed to represent everybody + strengthen the "community spirit" further - that combination of a good sense of humour, that "good neighbour" thing, that ""chumba"-but-we-get-up-again" BOUNCEBACK thing , the going down the pub or out for a curry - ALL sorts of us. . . . + all the things we are FOR , instead of it getting stolen then reduced to the "it means you are against THEM, do what WE say, DONT ask questions - DONT look around the curtain.

From time to time its as if a flag needs a hole in it to see the other people - or to let the spirit back into it - but sometimes all it needs is shaking the muddy smears of "infowar" off of it.

Even when it neednt mean control or ownership or obedience - sometimes it can, again, mean inspiration - strength when you need it - from unexpected quarters.

"Saint" George is also the patron saint of Palestine.
Israel too, for that matter. In fact - LOTS of places.( expect somebody might add the list in the "comments", if indymedia uk allows comment at all in the future) He was first adopted as a patron saint, in Briton , pre-feudalist invasion by a small church in doncaster in 1061.

....born, late "2nd century AD" ....syria/turkey/palestine
later revered in islam by the muslim name of "elkhadir". . . .

HE WAS PRESSGANGED/TRICKED INTO THE ROMAN LEGIONS - ( - ACHIEVED HIGH RANK EVEN- BUT . . . . )
....
HE OPPOSED THE EXTORTION OF THE EMPERORS HENCHMEN AGAINST "TOONTOWN"S THIRD CENTURY EQUIVALENTS (- THE JEWISH + CHRISTIAN COMMUNITIES ( + OTHERS)) THAT HAD GOTTEN THREATENED, ATTACKED, TOLD TO SURRENDER ALL POSSESSIONS - EVEN A PROPORTION OF THE COMMUNITIES KIDS - FIRST AS BLACKMAIL HOSTAGES, THEN - IN LARGER + LARGER NUMBERS - AS SLAVES - WORKED TO DEATH BY THE RACKETS OPERATING UNDER COVER OF THE "MIGHT OF THE EMPIRE"
(that was the "dragon" bit - it sounds allegorical)(ch/ch ref)
HE WENT ABOVE MERE MUTINY TO USE HIS POSITION TO INTERRUPT THE EMPEROR HIMSELF - AGAIN, + AGAIN, + AGAIN, + AGAIN - TO PROTEST, TO EXPLAIN WHY, TO OPPOSE - TO INTERRUPT . . . .DESPITE TORTURES, EVEN (IT SAYS HERE(!)) GETTING MURDERED - SEVERAL TIMES (-ISH, PERHAPS) - BUT KEPT "BOUNCING BACK ". . . .Diocletian, the Roman Emperor even retired, then moved to live as a hermit at a small island, but its said that georges voice found a way to follow him - even to the island . . . . THE "EDICTS" WERE REVOKED, THAT TENTH ROMAN PERSECUTION OF THE CHRISTIANS, JEWS, ETC WAS THE LAST - the resulting sort of "pact" that the next Emperor - constantine - put together as christianity was adopted as the favoured religion of the empire had a LOT of flaws - see comments (+ DONATA/ "DESERT FATHERS" GOOD DISSENT) - but it was MUCH better than getting poked in the eye with a stick, + some versions of the story have him "rescuing the princess, getting the girl, taming / the dragon - happy ever after - etc ( - DESPITE the getting-tortured-to-death-murdered-a-lot-thing! ) - but - princess or otherwise - he was probably happiest about having helped stop the extortionist slaving shite. Strength when you need it ! Happy bouncebacks !




its annoying but fact that misused electronic warfare might produce symptoms most like the rooney flare-up, then worse to comprehend that a match is at its moment of easiest interference of that sort at a . . . . aaaaaargh. Penalty shootout. (exhaustion, fixed positions, repetition in exact details of actions. . . . )
ISNT ANYTHING LEFT SACRED ????
. . . . as g might say . . . .