definitions - revolving door, octopus + a thought or two. . . .

The "revolving door" is that twixt certain "industries" company directors etc + senior "public" administrators - often in the same "social sets/cartels" anyway - often less than frontmen/women for the big cashlaundery bit of that "industry-sector". The term "octopus" is often used as a term for a sort of "white-collar/blue-rinse Mob"( - but without a code of ethics,) - set of overlapping dodgy dealers- from old secretpolicewomen/men that took backhanders to the rotten end of the publicschool/uni "spotters" networks, + the slushfunds that paid them - or got conned into acting as "customers" for them in the first place.
Of course, some of them went legit after a bit - a big U.S. Private Detective firm had a dodgy late 1800s reputation of creating provocateurs, frames, smears, even explosions, for the "union-busting" railroads + mine-owners - but some took up that slack, later - often since they had failed in the countries they came from ( see "okhrana-global-networks-Post-1913", for instance) - but without "going legit" at all, except on the surface - as they did the equivalent of the old eastendgangsterdream of retiring to the sunshine as "fences", keeping a
veto / cashrakeoff /plot-checking / remote control role (telcoms- isnt modern tech wonderful )
- yet getting intertwined further into society as the decades of the 20th century rolled past - due to its origins in "coldwar/ 3rd world manipulations" + access to some "Q -type gizmos - (ETC !). SOME SEE THE EXAMPLE OF THE PERSISTENCE OF THE "RACKETS" AFTER THE N.IRELAND PEACE PROCESS - +THE EXTRAPOLATING OF - say- A BIT of EXTRA INFLUENCE AS SOMEWHAT EXPLAINING THE WORLDS REVERSAL TO "EMERGENCY" "WAR-STATUS" SO FAST AFTER THE END OF THE "COLD WAR"

Seeing as this is the big first U.S. example of THE "OUTING" of puppet legislators + "watchmen" getting put in "power" to change the laws, widen or create loopholes, then getting twice or tenfold the salary that they had gotten - its expected that the "teapot dome" scandal documents are to get dusted off, along with the attempts (IN 1932) to do to the USA what had gotten done to much of the rest of the world - that came to the attention of congress with the good work of Smedley - a Marine + French - a reporter, in 1933. Some of the names HAVENT changed, it seems (????).

Some even post ulate that the dodgy private eyes "privat - isation" scams, + the disastrous "big bang, boom + bust" in the economy in the late 70s was exacerbated by some structure change set-up to ease "inside-deal" scams. . . . either way - as, logically - the facts are almost certain to get worse, + cover up clumsy errors too . . . .
"curtains" do that!

. . . . see also "2 remember the scams"

the comment from " . . . . but it aint diabolical - except diabolically stupid! " , above.
+ , yes , "2 remember the scams"
- see , some people even got told that the use of the letters "v" then "i", after each other, - or even putting your smallest finger up in a sort of "nice tea, v i car" gesture, was somehow a "gang sign" for a scam of that sort. . . . others say its a result of some old 1950s / 1960s era "clampdown" operators taking too many of the drugs that "targets" took, then existing most "by proxy", playing others (playing others) as "videogames" - in that "fugue" state, refusing to face reality at all - sort of " colonel kurts" of suburbia (etc) . . . . thinking they could get away with it forever, stopping others from letting the world have a chance, seeing as they thought that might uncover the plots they played on "internal" command structures too - hence a case of " whoops apocalypse" instead.

. . . . allowing some people to dismiss the church, all churches + everything they might say about global "rip offs" , by keeping a sort of bigotry going, somehow presenting the church as the opposite of good samaritans, is in lots of ways a boring, easy to predict version of the way old operators shaking down "united fruit" in guatamala, in the 50s, or got "proxies" assassinate Archbishop Romero in el salvador in more recent times.
His famous phrase rings across the years - " . . . . when i give food to the poor, they call me a saint - but when i ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a "communist" ".

also worth checking out the 2x comments you get to after following up " 13. hiden comments - watcher " on "uk indymedia"

French parliament shut down the rogue russian secret police global HQ , that was in the capital of France, when it was shown they had set up fake explosions + "terrorists" to manipulate diplomacy. Tip of the iceberg, in fact - they had gotten VERY "tail wag dog".
They used international networks of "free-range" "private eyes" + the staff of other countries police + secret police, paid "retainers", + also fostered a network of people in post offices across the world. They went ( even further ) "commercial" after 1913. . . . but they didnt expect the records to resurface in the USA 50 years later. ( the ci a did a series of semi- erudite monthly pieces about the "surface" of the okhrana ops in its in-house mag - declassified 1998.
other jigsaw bits - "nilus", n.cohn , etc.

- a bloke called rachovsky was a sort of lefty-liberal student, picked up by the secret police - or the local "baron"s version of them, then tortured to the point that he gave them a lot of names - anybody - everybody he knew, in fact. He "confessed" things the interrogators invented on the spot about them. They didnt mind - it was results. They didnt have "percentage - plus" in those times, but, nevertheless.
Then they threw him out. Later, they hassled him for further "reports". He'd already seen people he'd liked "dissappear" - perhaps as a result of the things he'd invented.
He joined the secret police. He grew in "rank" to the point that when the "global" directorate of the okhrana was re-energising its european ops, he was put in charge - w i t h o u t
m u c h " o v e r s i g h t " - if any.
His "deputy" was also . . . . from the ranks, so to speak.
They werent that good at things - but they had a lot of chance to "cover-up" after things, a "license to lie" - with access to printing presses - in fact, favoured "access" to the proprietors + layout of prettymuch EVERY newspaper, + a LOT of contacts. A heck of a lot of contacts.
When his deputy was exposed for some "invent your own terrorists, tool them up, then get them arrested" plot - ten years later - they'd already introduced him to most of the aristos + gravytrains in europe ( + america ).
- you put the dots together,
but its safe to say that a "loyalty to the tsar" wasnt even a factor in the worldview that they had, or that they caused in others. Or a loyalty to anything. Or self respect.

For all the mistakes + disasters, the coverup had seemed to work - was even accepted by the people that worked for them later - see some versions of the N Cohn book for examples - but as a pattern. . . .



o u c h.

. . . .- as the big U.S.A p.i. firm had used the "all-seeing" eye as its corporate symbol, also appropriating the "triangle" motif from the good intentioned old reform debating groups such as the lunar/royal society, Franklins U.S equivalent (see his autobiography) - the ex-russian secret police even dodgier "p.i" network took the (french translation of) halloween, with the name of an old french policeman, as its "corporate identity".
Thus, as the US firm could try to con the people that it was running that, in some way or other, what they got asked to do was in some "luminous", or at least, renaissance tradition - when it very much WASNT, after the last "cunning ploy" in Russia that they tried had failed - in such a disastrous way that they'd had to escape the country - when, in the 1920s, they ran people - often as "manipulators", in fact - they ran those people as " halloween " themed "operators". Again - a very different, caricatured version of the " all hallows " , in fact, often without ANY actual comprehension of the facts in the tales they told, in the same way that the red'n'white clothes of the soft-drink advert campaign "santa" has small, if any relation to the actual events, meaning or "characters" of christmas.
But the "ouch" doesnt stop at that "pointy point".
The worst ouch was the way that each "cunning plot" went out of control - to the extent that incompetence accelerated by clandestine "tech" meant some things got SO disastrous that even with a "diabolic laugh", the usual, fall-back "we meant that to happen" spiel wasnt adequate to even save face " in-house", so to speak.
As WW1 was, perhaps, meant to have finished by christmas 1914, but scuppered the " Hague 2 " peace treaties - most of all, the "year by year percentage worldwide national disarmaments" . . . . + the outlawing of "unstate" commercial warweapon manufacture that threatened to get the signatures of countries AFTER the agreements that had got hammered out at the 1907 Hague Preparatory talks - outlawing
bombardment from the air
bombardment from the sea
. . . . of cities,
use of gas . . . . etc.
These awaited signatures at the 1914 Hague meeting.
Barons, to "industrial" barons - warbucks was a racket, amongst others.

The cover-up, incomplete, of the fact that these agreements might have even existed is adequate hint as to the guilt felt by those involved.
Then - the recycled old "okhrana practises of "decimation", pseudo gangs , fake "factions".... etc . . . . all went awry. . . .
o u c h

in the late 1800s + first few years of the twentieth century, the okhrana had set up unions, even entire electoral groupings,+ the precedent of the " black hundreds " that used the "classical" Roman technique of "decimation" - the creation of terror + chaos to "murder 1 out of every ten people" - THEN take out the people you want out of the situation + others dont question the specific disappearances - your internal "rivals", people that "dont play ball" in the bribetaking racket, people that dont pay "protection" , straight journalists, tories with integrity, - even the tsar/king if they dont seem to support your latest scams - , good lawyers, people that look at you in a funny way THEN the "lefties", liberals, trade unionists, - that you told the "panicked customers" you did it to get, then anybody you wanted to experiment with to get the hang of the kontrolle of people further - THEN the people you had told "the public" that you had to protect them from - the subhuman, conspiracy of ( insert this decade/countries favourite bogeypeople here ) t h i n g s .
It is worth taking the time to remember that when the "protocols" first got printed in the USA, the "hate figures" had got changed - "those lying brits" came into it a lot then, too, in fact the "black legions" used "blacks'n'catholics" as the motor industry union town bogeypeople without mentioning jews much at all. The brit-hating strand is in existence in the US to this time, even, but, oddly, the first uk version had the "brit-sceptic" bits censored.
The USA s intel people, 50 years later, when they had looked some of the old internal documents, pointed out, too, that the " bolsheviks " achieved the dubious accolade of the most penetrated of all the okhranas targets - to the point of extreme ease of manipulation. In London, Lenins main secretary was a stooge of the okhrana. Stalin too- called "koba" then, spent time in East London at a certain Unemployed Workers Hostel - these times even very cautious commentators have decided he was either "double" or "triple" - but are unsure of the extent that he himself was witting how much, or if he ever got free of it all - ever .( yes, lenins thoughts re the "succession" do seem to show some doubts, at least. ( "anybody but stalin" )A tale is told of when lenin suspected some of the duma deputies in Kerenskys parliament of 1917 he asked the most senior person amongst these MPs to appoint the investigator. Each of them was, in fact, already a stooge for the secret police.
"Centralist" democracy, in fact , rigid "top-down" structures of ANY kind have much attraction to manipulators .
"Interpol" had a brief pre-history in this first decade of the 1900s, but the chance for this "protection racket" to play tail wag dog "games" with swathes of the people + businesses of europe was when the moscow " insert ultralefty aggro, sweep down from outside with "loyal"baron + army, restore order, back to the rackets" ploy failed. . . .

Further brief explanation / clues ?
Rs deputy/protege went to berlin, trained serb secpol, trained "black hand" shot FF.

info?
follows:
europe states diplomacy + war-prevention moved from " get euro-royals to intermarry " strategy to system of treaties - often broken - ( ever play "diplomacy" - even the "rules" say you 've got to cheat ) to a system of overseen ("regulated") geneva convention, red cross sort of international or global " courts " + useful things - such as disarmament treaties . . . ,
mmmm - thanx - perhaps further specifics . . . .
peace / disarmament treaties? 1842 peace congress london, then " universal " peace conference - process disrupted by war - yet very much good progress made, much thanks to the simultaneous meeting in the same city in the world as the parliament members international yearly get-togethers. Lots of 1800s "peace societies" did good "talking things out" - if anything with a higher degree of sceptical caution than the 1700s equivalents did as they discussed, say, the "utopian, far fetched " idea of a U.S. Constitution, for instance. It was as logical as thinking the telegraph was progress from the horse-delivered post.
The odd thing is that it didnt happen.
Picked up again at the "worlds fair"s, the other odd difference was that "outlawing the commercial manufacturing + profiteering from large scale weapons of war " etc - to take the reward out of tragedy - of course - had "fallen off" the summits debating + decisions list.
( much as the postcoldwar, postberlinwallfall world summit process after 1992 that commenced, with the "about-time-too" enthusiasm of people all over the world, as
" DISARMAMENT , DEVELOPMENT, ENVIRONMENT " was stymied into
" ENVIRONMENT - but with odd "market" knobs + opportunities.
Also the way the post WW1 USA Pres.( a republican/democrat initiative, with Tafts full backing) SERIOUS league of nations plan ( - with "teeth" - enforcing the worlds democratic, deliberated "war-preventing" type discussions with cultural,
diplomatic, economic + F INAN CI AL sanctions against rogue countries AND CORPORATIONS - even banks, using its own small policeforce reserve, investigators etc. . . .- yes, you guessed it - funny thing happened on the way to the undystopia - in this case, a mysterious nervous breakdown, stroke, etc. A couple of dodgy brit diplomats-with-connections, that pretended to play the "Great Game", but in fact played "the big r.i.p.-off",- even as they feigned support for this logical reaction to a "War to end all wars" - popular pressure - got in touch with a "blocking" group of U.S senators etc that went , many of them, into the next administration - that historians agree was probably the most criminal administration the US has EVER seen - most of the first cabinet went to jail - ( google "teapot dome" !) - but, as a young FDR observed ( he stood as vicepres ) - 99% of the
people wanted the original league of nations proposal - but 1% of the industrialists didnt - but they owned the newspapers . . . . (paraphrased- check quote pre-re-use)
It was these people that the ex-secret police(wo)men snake-oilcharmers from the disastrous screw-up theyd created out of russia battened onto - recycled the fake documents theyd produced 10 years ago to - (etc) - perhaps even organised fake stunts/ "streettheatre " for - hooking them as "sponsors" (etc- see HH character in bond movie?) for decades. (7/12/18 - re A + F thyssn - " . . . . staged executions designed to terrorise them. " ???? hmmmm. )
remember use of "Father Gapon", in 1905 : "perhaps we could whip up a bit of a demo outside the tsars window to get the boss reinstated?" after R was demoted after the " ....so, the tsar has a soft spot for monks. Perhaps - the monk i prepared myself ???? - scam went wrong - although was at least the second time the "protocols" had gotten used for a dodgy "internal" reason. ( $£$£minister )
- mmmm - a lot less far fetched, then - sort of - of course! , in fact.
i meant the WW1 bit.
same - russian secret police "outpost" in france had its own "sub-outpost" in germany, H, the bloke that R dragged into all this then "deputised", was put in charge of it. Its from the german outpost that the "tsarist" secret police trained up the russian ally of serbia s secret police, that used the tactic of " PSEUDO GANG " to create the bosnian terror group that tried, then succeeded , to assassinate Franz Ferdinand. H had had to disappear in 1907 - - - - to a varied career . . . .