"the spontaneous anger however football coated it appeared was channelled into hatred for the police this however is the unconscious side to the anger at the government..for its war plans and wider social neglect a polarisation of the rich and poor in the city"

I think you'll fins that these drunken idiots were merley too drunk to control themselves, you have managed to read far too much into this.

Or perhaps the drunken yobs who blight our streets on a Friday & Saturday nights are people of conscience fighting the system the only way they know.

I don't think so.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to post that report Johno.

It came as a shock to me, to see the reports in NW news tonight, but even with the inadequate reports, you can quite clearly see the police dogs attacking the public. I'm no footie fan, but I could see the public atmosphere was both friendly, communal and well behaved just from passing by it twice on Saturday afternoon, however I saw the police had three vans at the top near Boots and thought then it was heavy handed policing. I'll get some still shots from that BBC report ASAP up here, they look bloody savage.

I did hear customers in shops moaning about not being able to get through the football crowd, but they could have gone around it like I did twice no problem at all, so maybe big business was down on it's takings for a few hours. Commercial consideration over public interest and safety huh?

Nothing surprises me with Merseyside police anymore. Surprised they didn't try tasers out on the crowd.

For the police who we know read this; we're also sick of the heavy handed policing up in Croxteth too, old and young alike with your appropriate named MATRIX operation.

How dare you intimidate the guy who used to mow my mothers lawn, your WPC and PCs came buzzing out of the yellow WASP van outside our house upset her so much that she had tell officers to stop picking on the local guy who she knew was a good lad, who has never came near the house again.

You even turned her death into an interrogation for me and as the officers said they are now 'tools of the state', you gave her even less respect in death than you did in life when she requested help against the drug dealer who harassed our family out of the Boot estate in 1999. Taking a written statement off a bereaved family member who was in severe shock all because of Doctor Harold Shipman I was told me.

You stop motorists here and detain them for thirty minutes or more for hell of it, I've observed it at least four times. You stop in your yellow WASP vans come buzzing out and harrass the teenagers in daylight just for walking down the street. Harass quiet and decent teenagers merely for walking home and wearing their hoods up because it's raining. Your officers threatened to put an ill old man in the back of one of your WASP vans and give him a beating merely because he was standing near his own home, they stopped when he said he'd need his medicine and inhaler if they were going to detain him for long. He's had official apologies for what they're worth. In Croxteth you slow down in the WASP vans and look suspiciously at anyone going about their legitimate business.

Now you wonder why more and more of the public are cold shouldering the police now. That'll be the least of police worries from the public next.

Neo, who took the red pill