Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude
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Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude Tue May 30, 8:00 AM ET
(PRWEB) - Duluth, MN (PRWEB) May 30, 2006 -- The latest audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden appears to be one more installment in a succession of evidence fabricated by the US government to deceive the American people, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This tape is only the latest in a series of fabrications intended to mislead the American people," said James H. Fetzer, the society's founder. "The closer we get to revealing the truth about 9/11, the more furiously the government fights to conceal it!" He said members of Scholars and other experts had detected evidence of fakery.
In this new recording, a voice attributed to Osama bin Laden asserts that Zacarias Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11, which he knew to be the case because he had personally assigned the 19 hijackers involved in those events. The Osama of this tape thereby implicitly confesses his responsibility for orchestrating the attacks. However, in a tape released on December 27, 2001, the authenticity of which is not in doubt, Osama denied having had anything to do with 9/11. "Moreover," Fetzer added, "some of the 19 hijackers he 'personally assigned' have turned up alive and well."
To be sure, this new tape is not the first one in which bin Laden appears to take responsibility for the attacks. As David Ray Griffin, a prominent member of Scholars, points out, "The Osama on the video tape that appeared on December 13, 2001, confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks. But he is far darker and much heavier than the real Osama bin Laden. People can see the difference by looking up 'The Fake bin Laden Video Tape' on Google."
Griffin's point is supported by a work-in-progress by members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which appears on its web site under the heading, "9/11: Have we been lied to?" It offers evidence of fakery in some of the videos based upon various physical properties of the figures that are presumed to be Osama, pointing out that there are differences in the ears, cheeks, eyebrows, length of the nose and shape of the nostrils. "The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."
Content Inconsistencies
"Another problem with the video of December 13, 2001," Griffin pointed out, "was that its stocky bin Laden praised two of the alleged hijackers, Wail M. Al-Shehri and Salem al-Hazmi, by name, and yet both the London Telegraph and the Saudi embassy reported several days after 9/11 that al-Hazmi was still alive and working in Saudi Arabia. Given the fact that the earlier video in which Osama confessed was clearly a fake, we should be suspicious of this latest apparent confession."
A professor at Duke, Bruce Lawrence, who has published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, expressed profound skepticism about a tape that was released January 17, 2006, in a report that appeared two days later. "There's nothing in this from the Koran," Lawrence said. "He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim who quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities." Lawrence also observed the tape ran only 10 minutes, whereas the shortest previous tape, at 18 minutes, was nearly twice as long.
Fetzer noted that many of the same anomalous properties are found in the latest tape. "Compared to Osama's past performances," he observed, "this message is too short, too direct, and full of falsehoods. It was even described on CBS News by Bob Schieffer as 'almost American'." A translation of the text of the tape has also been released by IntelCenter, a private company that does contract work for the US government. "I suppose I would be accused of being a 'conspiracy theorist' to suggest there is any connection," Fetzer added.
Authentic Voice/Fake Content
Informed that Reuters news agency has reported confirmation that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden, Fetzer replied, "The fact that the voice is his does not prove that the tape is authentic. We have had phony tapes before using voices that were authentic. Mark Bingham, a passenger on Flight 93, is supposed to have called his mother and said, 'Hi, Mom, this is Mark Bingham!' His mother confirmed it was his voice, but does anyone seriously believe that Mark Bingham would have used his last name in identifying himself to his mother?"
Griffin agreed, adding, "Back in 1999, William Arkin published an article entitled, 'When Seeing and Hearing isn't Believing' (which can also be accessed on Google). Describing the new technology of 'voice morphing' (or 'voice synthesizing'), Arkin explained that, if audio technicians have a recording of your voice, then they can create a tape in which your voice‹your authentic voice!‹says anything they wish."
In a press release on April 22, 2006, the Scholars observed that a tape played at the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui included discussion among the passengers about using a drink cart to break down the cabin door alleged to have been picked up on a cockpit voice recorder, which does not record conversations in the passenger cabin. "This is not the first and certainly will not be the last time that the American government plays the American people for suckers," Fetzer said.
"We have just acquired new evidence that the Pentagon video tapes were processed and manipulated in an apparent effort to distort or conceal what happened there on 9/11," Fetzer observed. "Apparently, whenever the government feels the need to bolster the official myth about 9/11, it simply fabricates a new tape! Anybody who wants to keep score
should visit our web site."
Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a non-partisan society of experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11. It maintains a web site at st911.org, where it archives its studies, documents, records and evidence.
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Scholars for 9/11 Truth
James Fetzer
218-724-2706
(PRWEB) - Duluth, MN (PRWEB) May 30, 2006 -- The latest audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden appears to be one more installment in a succession of evidence fabricated by the US government to deceive the American people, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This tape is only the latest in a series of fabrications intended to mislead the American people," said James H. Fetzer, the society's founder. "The closer we get to revealing the truth about 9/11, the more furiously the government fights to conceal it!" He said members of Scholars and other experts had detected evidence of fakery.
In this new recording, a voice attributed to Osama bin Laden asserts that Zacarias Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11, which he knew to be the case because he had personally assigned the 19 hijackers involved in those events. The Osama of this tape thereby implicitly confesses his responsibility for orchestrating the attacks. However, in a tape released on December 27, 2001, the authenticity of which is not in doubt, Osama denied having had anything to do with 9/11. "Moreover," Fetzer added, "some of the 19 hijackers he 'personally assigned' have turned up alive and well."
To be sure, this new tape is not the first one in which bin Laden appears to take responsibility for the attacks. As David Ray Griffin, a prominent member of Scholars, points out, "The Osama on the video tape that appeared on December 13, 2001, confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks. But he is far darker and much heavier than the real Osama bin Laden. People can see the difference by looking up 'The Fake bin Laden Video Tape' on Google."
Griffin's point is supported by a work-in-progress by members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which appears on its web site under the heading, "9/11: Have we been lied to?" It offers evidence of fakery in some of the videos based upon various physical properties of the figures that are presumed to be Osama, pointing out that there are differences in the ears, cheeks, eyebrows, length of the nose and shape of the nostrils. "The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."
Content Inconsistencies
"Another problem with the video of December 13, 2001," Griffin pointed out, "was that its stocky bin Laden praised two of the alleged hijackers, Wail M. Al-Shehri and Salem al-Hazmi, by name, and yet both the London Telegraph and the Saudi embassy reported several days after 9/11 that al-Hazmi was still alive and working in Saudi Arabia. Given the fact that the earlier video in which Osama confessed was clearly a fake, we should be suspicious of this latest apparent confession."
A professor at Duke, Bruce Lawrence, who has published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, expressed profound skepticism about a tape that was released January 17, 2006, in a report that appeared two days later. "There's nothing in this from the Koran," Lawrence said. "He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim who quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities." Lawrence also observed the tape ran only 10 minutes, whereas the shortest previous tape, at 18 minutes, was nearly twice as long.
Fetzer noted that many of the same anomalous properties are found in the latest tape. "Compared to Osama's past performances," he observed, "this message is too short, too direct, and full of falsehoods. It was even described on CBS News by Bob Schieffer as 'almost American'." A translation of the text of the tape has also been released by IntelCenter, a private company that does contract work for the US government. "I suppose I would be accused of being a 'conspiracy theorist' to suggest there is any connection," Fetzer added.
Authentic Voice/Fake Content
Informed that Reuters news agency has reported confirmation that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden, Fetzer replied, "The fact that the voice is his does not prove that the tape is authentic. We have had phony tapes before using voices that were authentic. Mark Bingham, a passenger on Flight 93, is supposed to have called his mother and said, 'Hi, Mom, this is Mark Bingham!' His mother confirmed it was his voice, but does anyone seriously believe that Mark Bingham would have used his last name in identifying himself to his mother?"
Griffin agreed, adding, "Back in 1999, William Arkin published an article entitled, 'When Seeing and Hearing isn't Believing' (which can also be accessed on Google). Describing the new technology of 'voice morphing' (or 'voice synthesizing'), Arkin explained that, if audio technicians have a recording of your voice, then they can create a tape in which your voice‹your authentic voice!‹says anything they wish."
In a press release on April 22, 2006, the Scholars observed that a tape played at the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui included discussion among the passengers about using a drink cart to break down the cabin door alleged to have been picked up on a cockpit voice recorder, which does not record conversations in the passenger cabin. "This is not the first and certainly will not be the last time that the American government plays the American people for suckers," Fetzer said.
"We have just acquired new evidence that the Pentagon video tapes were processed and manipulated in an apparent effort to distort or conceal what happened there on 9/11," Fetzer observed. "Apparently, whenever the government feels the need to bolster the official myth about 9/11, it simply fabricates a new tape! Anybody who wants to keep score
should visit our web site."
Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a non-partisan society of experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11. It maintains a web site at st911.org, where it archives its studies, documents, records and evidence.
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Scholars for 9/11 Truth
James Fetzer
218-724-2706
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01.06.2006 23:18
Walter Carlos jr.
Re: Your Disinformation
02.06.2006 05:16
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
RE: Your Paranoid Stupidity
02.06.2006 09:22
Total bollocks and just as laughable as the example of video manipulation (see outrageously ovious CGI of M Monroe) that is oft cited.
Total claptrap that even a second year linguistics undergraduate should spot as science fiction.
Technology as it stands is not capale of producing a concinving fake of someone else's speech. Fact! The best we have got so far are algorythms that will leave a footprint more obvious than a elephant walking through luminous paint in the dark.
Thus this article is pseudoscience.
Prove me wrong.
Walter Carlos jr.
Fetzer is a crank
02.06.2006 12:06
FFS
Read this please (is 911 coming to Germany?)
02.06.2006 17:24
Here we have a prime example, with responses from 'Walter Carlos jr. ' and 'FFS'. The first is just a self-describing idiot. The second bears a little closer examination.
FFS says Fetzer is a crank, which is interesing given he is just the message bearer, NOT the message. To elaborate, the Catholic Church, when defending the doctrine of a flat earth at the centre of the universe, used a very similar technique. They carefully got crackpots to spread the scientific theories of those that correctly described the nature and place of the Earth in the universe. Then they bought attention to OTHER causes of the crackpot that could easily be shown to be wrong, in order to discredit the TRUE theories that the crackpot was merely disseminating on behalf of researchers that knew thescientific accuracy of what they were describing. FFS employs an old, old propaganda method.
It is even MORE interesting to contemplate THIS fact. Newton, the world's greatest thinker (in maths and science) believed in alchemy and the occult. By the BRAINDEAD reasoning of 'FFS', Newton's theory of gravity and calculus are a NONSENSE since Newton was a PROVABLE crank in certain areas of his thinking.
Knocking down the arguments of Blair's goons, like FFS and Walter Carlos jr., is child's play. Sadly, it is hardly their thinking power that poses a threat to humanity, Instead these people taken as a whole are armed to the teeth with every variety of weapon, physical AND consequential (control of Western governments, church, military, law and mass media). Just about the ONLY place they fail to have any success is in their pathetic attempts to propagandise places like this.
We have the advantage of numbers. Of course, when the nazis ruled, they were in far smaller numbers than the populations they controlled, so a numeric advantage all to often counts for nought.
We are vastly more trouble than any of you understand. As I commented on the News of the World video thread, I have to watch as someone's 'wouldn't it be an infinitely sick world if racists did this' comedy sketch is turned into reality by a Mass Media UK newspaper published by Blair's closest media baron friend, Murdoch. When things like this happen, the IMPOSSIBLE has not only become PROBABLE, but is actually the pattern of accepted behaviour in Blair's New Reich UK.
Of course Blair's New Reich goons attack anyone who attempts to expose Blair's Reichstag Fire. If the initiating event that gave Blair the power to exterminate muslims in exponentially growing numbers was exposed to the masses BEFORE Blair's completion of his dictatorship, he could yet still fall.
Just as important, Blair wants to KNOW that he can get away with his FALSE-FLAG at the coming world cup, so that he can green-light the operation, and use it as an immediate spring-board to genocide Iran. This operation is planned to be a fake assassination attempt against Blair, that will leave him just as unscathed as Cheney in the Pentagon during 911, but will wipe out large numbers of football supporters. We know this because
1) There was a PRETEND leaking of Blair's security arrangements describing precautions against specific methods of assassination attempts against Blair (including mortars, ie., flying bombs that would bypass security arrangements in Germany with ease).
2) There was a carefully timed interview with Galloway saying Blair should be assassinated in revenge for attacks against muslims.
3) Israeli intelligence leaked reports into the press saying that Iran intended to attack football supporters during the World cup.
Each of the legs of a FALSE-FLAG tripod allow the Mass-Media to immediately create a plausible backward explanation in the aftermath of Blair's murderous terrorist attack.
Blair has planned and reluctantly cancelled many false-flags since 911, precisely because of the principle "forwarned is forearmed". However, this time he intends to bounce so quickly of his act of mass murder in Germany, into a vastly greater act of mass murder against the poor humans of Iran, that he expects his enemies to be lost in the malestrom.
Iran is to be first attacked within hours of the False-Flag in Germany. Iraq is expected to generate major attacks against US forces by order of its Iranian masters within hours again. Thus the whole of the Iran-Iraq region is intended to be major war zone within days, with Blair's hope that Sunni forces from Saudi, Syria, etc can initially be persuaded to take advantage of the misfortune befalling the shia in Iran and Iraq (take advantage = revenge).
The fires ignited by Blair in Iran/Iraq are fully intended to consume EVERY major muslim nation in the middle-east. That conflagration, of course, is only the opening act of Blair's Third World War.
Paranoia may yet cause the cancellation of the false-flag in Germay, or at least its mutation into something as far removed from the myriad of predictions across the Internet as possible. However, do not bank on that THIS TIME, for everyone knows that Iran is to be attacked, and attacked in the immediate future. If the circumstances of this attack are not right, too many of those in power risk everthing, and they are NOT the kind of people to accept such a risk. 911 was ESSENTIAL for the wars that had previously been planned for Afghanistan and Iraq to be executed without deadly blowback. Blair is a PUPPET MASTER far enough removed from the public view to have high expectations of survival even if his plans go very very wrong indeed. However his PUPPETS, like the US Neocons and Bush etc., feel very exposed, and would much prefer to attack Iran on the back of a 911 style excuse if UN manipulations prove hopeless (which, of course, they will)
twilight
Re: Spook Droppings
02.06.2006 18:34
Indeed, let's.
Before we take at face-value the empty, unsupported claims from people who LIED about Iraq, in order to pursue a deadly, illegal policy against the country, let's see their evidence.
After their utter failings over the past five years, you'd think the media which helped sell these LIES to the public would be demanding such evidence, before simply repeating what these criminals claim to be true.
You'd think that in order to safeguard what little remaining credibility they have, they would have the tapes analyzed independently before even mentioning them.
Perhaps they fear the answer ...
"What is this wonderful all-singing & dancing "voice morphing technology" ..."
Your need to make a rather simple, widespread program seem overly-complex exposes you, Disinformationalist. Consumer versions of these programs are common, and their quality has vastly improved over the past few years. You really think that a Government with advanced technology and a massive "black budget", could not create this tape?
Take a hike, Spook.
"Technology as it stands is not capale of producing ..."
You're talking out of your ass, however, these programs do leave behind clues. Let's have the tapes - all of them - analyzed and compared independently.
Prove me wrong.
Demand that the criminals using this tape in a desperate attempt to scare people into supporting them again (Since nobody does ...), prove their case.
Or do you only reserve such ultimatums for those who question "Der Fuhrer" ... ?
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
you egocentric tosser...
02.06.2006 22:13
No surprise that Hitler gets a mention in your post, you always do mention him, though you also seem to post some of the most blatant anti-semitic rants on this forum. And who are you calling braindead? You clearly over estimate your own intelligence you egocentric loon and commonly base wild, speculative theories on apparently reading nothing more than one book. At some point in your past you obviously glanced at 'Blood and Soil: Walter Darre and Hitlers Green Party' and have subsequently made a veritable career at posting half-baked, ill-informed rants about environmental issues as soon as something is posted on this forum.
You continue with your delusion that I am some state agent, paid to keep an eye on you, Twilight, if it makes you feel better. I like this forum. What I do not like is barking mad, delusional tossers like yourself, claiming to be the sole voice of 'progressive' politics, particularly when it is commonly combined with foam mouthed rants against jews. You are the Jan Bockelson of Indymedia mate, full of millenarian shite and bile, and I do not see why you should not be called on your bullshit every now and again
FFS
Weak Disinformation, Spook
03.06.2006 02:00
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
No No NO!!!
03.06.2006 07:23
Sound Guy
Ah, the old disinformation slur
03.06.2006 14:22
Why is it anyone who questions you is a 'spook' and anyone who does not buy into your consiracy theories is 'pro-war', or 'pro Bush/Blair'? Seriously, how do you come to such conclusions? You seem have the stark, manichaean rhetoric of a witch-hunter, swallow your unsubstantiated claims or be damned as 'one of them'. Simply because I do not happen to conform to your simplistic world view, makes me neither a spook nor a war monger.
FFS
Yawn ...
04.06.2006 02:03
The media should have these tapes analyzed before airing them, lest their record of acting as nothing more than a propaganda conduit continue.
You'd think that finding a man with kidney disease, who requires regular dialysis treatments (formerly performed in US military hospitals) would be a lot easier than it's made out to be.
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
Tch Tch
04.06.2006 13:58
Architect
But you do have to wonder-
04.06.2006 18:55
1. Why is the quality always bad? If you can afford the expense of mounting an assault on the Twin Towers you surely can also afford a cheap minidisc recorder off ebay. So why is it the tapes always sound like they were made in the seventies!!!? And the media, in all seriousness, always make a deal of the "grainy quality". Ooohh, scarey. (sorry, I just had to laugh out loud!!)
2. Every Tom Dick etc has a phone, minidisc, mp3 recorder these days, right? So why is Al Jazeera and other "Arab media outlets" not completely flooded with all sorts of spoof Osama tapes?
They probably are. So who decides which one is "real" and worth telling the world about?
Sound Man
Why....
06.06.2006 07:54
Is it because, deep down, they are afraid that if they do concede that Islamic terrorists were involved in 9/11 then the subsequent actions of the West would somehow be justified? I just do not get it. I am willing to acknowedge that 9/11 was carried out by a small group of Islamic terrorsts (is there a rather distateful underlying assumption among a number of conspiracy theorists that only 'whites' could have pulled off such a 'sophisticated' attack?) but that has never 'justified' the subsequent actions of the West in my eyes, and I am sure I am not alone in this. As I have never been convinced by the apparent 'case for war' in the first place, why would the appearance of yet another tape by Bin Laden admitting responsibility for 9/11change my mind? If it is a psy-op, it is a pretty shitty one. Why not manufacture something which more overtly implicates Iran if the underlying plan is to start another war? Or is that too obvious? Then again, most conspiracy theorists ironically show a withering disdain for ordinary people anyway, so why do they think that 'the sheeple' need a particularly sophisticated psy-op to swallow in the first place?
FFS
911 = PNAC, CIA, Mossad
06.06.2006 22:08
Either scenario would have any audio engineer pissing their trousers at the thought of being able to produce a convincing fake.
Here's a challenge. Phone p any audio studio and tell them that you want to use your voice to speak with the voice of any famous person and see what the reposnse is. Phone up AT&T of Bell Labs and ask them if there is a package that can fool forensic scientists that your voice or even a pres-scripted synthesis is an actual person talking.
Or perhaps even better, phone your local Universtity Linguistics department and ask then to recommend an good introduction to phonology book, buy the book and first open it up halfway through and see how much you understand. Then read and reread the boo and come back here and admit what an ignorant arse you are.
The technology hasn't arrived.
Prove me wrong liar!
Weny Carlos