...by going vegan or at least cutting down on your use of animal products.

 http://www.viva.org.uk/goingveggie/index.html

 http://www.vegsource.com/harris/going_vegan.htm

Jut never spend any moneyon hese fuckers. Theirprofits are already spiralling.

But, more importntly, how do we stop the Amazon from becoming the number one extinction postcode???

Note that a lot of soya (one of the most common dairy alternatives) production comes from land which was once Brazillian rainforest. If you going to argue the case for veganism as the one of the ways of saving the rainforest, double check where it comes from and whether it's GM-free.

Me? I personally think that drinking milk from an organically-reared, free range cow is a lot more ecologically friendly than drinking soya milk flown thousands of miles to this country by air.

>Note that a lot of soya (one of the most common dairy alternatives) production comes from land which was once Brazillian rainforest. If you going to argue the case for veganism as the one of the ways of saving the rainforest, double check where it comes from and whether it's GM-free.

Most of the soya grown there is used as cattle feed. A vegan uses less soya than a meat-eater even if the meat-eater never directly eats soya. It is sort of like the corporate world punishing the hippys - okay, we'll give you soya but we'll splice it's genes and grow it on top of the rainforest, that'll teach you for complaining about mad cow disease.

>Me? I personally think that drinking milk from an organically-reared, free range cow is a lot more ecologically friendly than drinking soya milk flown thousands of miles to this country by air.

Definitely more eco-friendly, not as good for your health though. And definitely more eco-friendly than shipping South American beef to Europe for burgers. As a smoker and drinker I personally don't worry that even organic milk causes prostate, ovarian, breast and colon cancer, amongst a variety of other ailments. This website may seem a bit over the top but you can check out the rather amateur science to be factual on other websites enough to understand what motivated the author to hyperbole.

 http://www.notmilk.com

And anyway, how many folk get their milk from one cow, let alone an organically raised one. I'm not being preachy, I just gave up meat again at Christmas and I still drink crap milk myself, but maybe you value your health more.

How reliable is the info on that site? It's pretty erm shocking actually. I'm mildly lactose intolerant. I'm a bad boy, I've been taking milk in my tea and breakfast cereal for a while again, but I'm thinking twice now. Since last night in a bout of drunken impetuositynesshoodhjhjhkhjk stupidity I ate a big chunky cheese sandwich and then spent a considerable amount of time sitting on the toilet producing vile fluids from an inapproprate orofice.

I'm not a vegetarian let alone vegan. I do limit my meat inake to 99% fish and if nothing else my skin complexion improved dramatically. However, I would recommend that anyone cut out dairy produce for a month and then eat a cheese sandwich and see what happens.

Don't do it if you have to be out the door imminently!

>How reliable is the info on that site? It's pretty erm shocking actually.

It is. I for one don't blame the War on Arabs on a milk war, I still think it is an oil war. But all the really worrying facts that I've read on that site I checked out by googling and do seem to be uncontroversial and accepted science. IGF-I, the bovine growth hormone in milk does seem to cause many human cancers. I'll include one such link at the end but it's typical. Basically it is saying, 'Drink your milk, and you and your tumours will grow big and strong'.

>I'm mildly lactose intolerant.

My health is so fucked in so many directions I find it hard to ascribe one symptom to one cause. After checking out that site though, I am less than tolerant to lactose, I am downright rude. You can get tested for allergic reaction to milk and other common allergies, but it costs about £50 and I have a low tolerance for expense. However, from what I've read so far, you don't have to be allergic to milk for it to prove carcinogenic amongst it's other failings.

Multiple large case-control studies in the past five years have reported positive associations between high circulating levels of the insulin-like growth factor (IGF)-I and risk for different types of cancer. Correlations certainly do not prove causation, but the reproducibility of this finding implies this is a hypothesis worth further examination through more mechanistic studies. IGF-I binds to the IGF-I receptor, a tyrosine kinase receptor that transduces signals to the nucleus and mitochondrion primarily via the mitogen-activated protein kinase (MAPK) and PI3K/Akt pathways. Examples will be provided to illustrate how IGF-I signaling may contribute to each stage of cancer progression: malignant transformation, tumor growth, local invasion and distant metastases, and resistance to treatment. In addition to direct contributions to each of these stages, IGF-I may promote cancer indirectly, through interactions with oncogenes and tumor suppressors, interactions with other hormones (especially the sex steroids in breast and prostate cancers) and interactions with the IGF binding proteins (IGFBPs). Finally, circulating IGF-I may facilitate cancer development though it likely does not cause cancer to form. Prompted by the accumulating evidence, investigations are also being pursued to modulate the IGF system as a possible means of cancer prevention or treatment.

Animal suffering aside, as Greenpeace doesn't seem to recognise this (apart from maybe Whales, where they like to take pictures). You'll find that a lot of soya grown in the Amazon is used to feed 'livestock' in the UK. Organic soya as mentioned generally comes from Argentina (a long way yes), but even with organic milk, cows often get a supplemented feed of molasses, does that come form the UK? I think not. Cows also produce a lot of methane which is not particularly good for the environment in regard to global warming. There is a massive milk obsession whether it be plant based or animal based. Habits are the biggest obstacle for change, get over them.

Heartily agree with the above poster.
btw Smash McDestruction by any means neccessary.