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transmitter | 14.03.2006 16:03 | Anti-militarism | Repression | World

British and US prison wardens, who were meant to be guarding and protecting prisoners including Ahmed Saadat, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, have withdrawn to allow the Israeli army to storm the prison. The British government must be urgently contacted to press them to re-enter the prison and protect those inside. Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas has condemned the raid and said the US and UK warders were responsible for the prisoners' safety. Reports are that already one prison policeman has been killed and 18 wounded. According to the BBC, ‘50 jeeps and three tanks pushed into the oasis town in the Jordan valley, as two helicopters hovered overhead. The army later brought a large armoured bulldozer to the prison, which proceeded to demolish walls.’

You can phone or e-mail Jack Straw at:
E-mail:  jack.straw@fco.gov.uk
Tel: 020 7270 1500;
or fax the Foreign Office at:
020 7270 2144.

People are gonna be demonstrating outside 10 Downing Street
from 5.30-6.30 today (14 March)

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Outrage leads to kidnappings

14.03.2006 17:35

Kidnappings, attacks blitz Gaza over Jericho raid

Abbas urges Palestinians to refrain from attacking foreign, EU interests in Palestinian territories.

By Sakher Abu El Oun and Adel Zaanoun - GAZA CITY

A blitz of foreign kidnappings and furious attacks on Western interests erupted in the Palestinian territories on Tuesday while Israeli troops stormed a West Bank prison deserted by British monitors.

Nine people were kidnapped in the Gaza Strip as the massive Israeli raid got underway in the oasis town of Jericho to arrest Palestinian militants wanted for the 2001 assassination of an Israeli minister.

The abductions followed hot on the heels of warnings from militants for all British and US nationals to quit the West Bank and Gaza Strip "immediately", while Britain also advised against all travel to the territories.

Palestinian Authority president Mahmud Abbas, currently on a tour of key European capitals, appealed for calm and urged Palestinians to refrain from attacking foreign and EU interests in the Palestinian territories.

It was the worst day of foreign abductions in the increasingly chaotic and hostage-prone Gaza Strip since Israel withdrew its troops and settlers from the territory last September, following a 38-year occupation.

An American teacher of English at the Arab American University in the northern West Bank town of Jenin was also snatched by militants, but there was no immediate confirmation from the US authorities.

"We call on all British and US nationals to leave the Palestinian territories immediately on pain of unprecedented consequences," the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades warned earlier in Gaza City.

With the rampant insecurity increasingly threatening to escalate out of control, Palestinian police shot dead a militant from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and wounded seven others in the Gaza Strip

Yasser Abu Rihan, 30, died and four militants were wounded in clashes with police acting on new live fire orders in response to clashes, medics said.

The other three militants were wounded in a firefight close to the Jordanian embassy, the sources said.

Two French women doctors, a Swiss man who headed the Red Cross mission in the depressed town of Khan Yunis and four other foreigners were grabbed at gunpoint from a luxury hotel were snatched in the Gaza Strip.

"We want the Israeli forces to withdraw from the Jericho area and we ask the French government to intervene to protect Ahmed Saadat," said a spokesman for the Che Guevara Brigades, which is close to the PFLP.

PFLP leader Ahmed Saadat who was detained under Anglo-US supervision for the 2001 murder of far-right Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi and five other militants were the focus of the Israeli assault.

Two Australian nationals were also briefly kidnapped in the Gaza Strip. PFLP militants also snatched a US citizen for minutes in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanun before Palestinian security forces recovered the man.

Hundreds of furious Palestinians mobbed the British cultural centre in Gaza City and set fire to the building after an angry protest in which gunmen pumped a volley of bullets into the air.

Protestors also swarmed into the British consulate in Gaza City, while other furious Palestinians attacked the British Council office and a branch of the HSBC bank in the West Bank town of Ramallah.

The British Council said its centre in Gaza City was "very badly damaged" after a mob gutted its ground and second floors by fire.

"Mid-morning Gaza time a group of masked gunmen came into the building and started firing shots in our information centre," Sir David Green, the director general of the British Council, told BBC radio.

Palestinian gunmen also barged into an American office used to teach English in Gaza City and smashed up furniture and warned US nationals against visiting Gaza, the witnesses said.

Abbas, who has failed to deliver on repeated promises to end the security chaos dogging the territories, could only urge restraint from a European tour.

"President Abbas calls on all Palestinian people not to turn the protest against the Israeli attack on the Jericho prison into violent action against cultural centres of the European Union or any other country," a statement said.

Several hundreds more demonstrated in the volatile southern West Bank city of Hebron in support of the Palestinians holed up in the Jericho prison.

In the West Bank town of Bethlehem, hundreds of schoolchildren left their classes to demonstrate.

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Update

14.03.2006 20:43

The imprisoned Palestinian leader, Ahmed Sa'adat, and other men sought by Israel surrendered to Israeli troops Tuesday after a siege lasting several hours.

Sa'adat and several of his followers reportedly emerged from the Palestinian prison in Jericho in the West Bank with their hands up, Israeli media reported.

A spokesman for the Israeli defence forces, told reporters however, that the army's operation in Jericho was ongoing.

Sa'adat and several men are wanted in connection with the murder of Israeli Tourism Minister Rehavim Ze'evi in 2001.

A large Israeli force entered Jericho Tuesday morning to seize militants held in the jail for killing the Israeli minister. The incursion sparked a tense standoff with Palestinians in the oasis city and resulted in a wave of kidnappings in the Gaza Strip.

Witnesses and Palestinian officials reported that at least two Palestinians, including a policeman and a militant, were killed, and six wounded when the large Israeli force stormed the prison.

The Israeli army has said the prison was almost completely destroyed in the raid. It also said it was still trying to confirm that the six men it sought in connection with Ze'evi's death were among the 200 prisoners seized from the prison.

As the violence escalated Tuesday helicopters flew over the prison and tanks lobbed shells at it, while from time to time Palestinians attempted to throw Molotov cocktails and makeshift bombs at the soldiers.

Army bulldozers were also brought in to knock down the walls of the jail, edging closer to the militants inside.

Some 170 of the 200 prisoners held in the jail surrendered to the Israelis early on and were taken for interrogation.

But the target of the raid, Ahmed Sa'adat, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), initially refused to surrender to the Israeli troops who were surrounding the jail.

Sa'adat and four other PFLP members, as well as Faud Shoubaki, a Palestinian leader accused of smuggling weapons to the Palestinian areas, were being held at the Jericho jail, guarded by British and American warders, for their role in the 2001 assassination.

They have been incarcerated in Jericho since 2002 under an agreement reached between Israel and the Palestinian Authority which ended a one-month-long Israeli military siege of the headquarters of the late Palestinian president Yasser Arafat in Ramallah.

Retaliating for Tuesday's raid, PFLP activists in the Gaza Strip and West Bank kidnapped 12 foreign nationals, set alight the British Cultural Centre in Gaza City, and attacked a closed representative building for the European Union. There were also reports of United Nations convoys being fired on in the Strip.

Palestinian security officials and eyewitnesses said the 12 were kidnapped in five incidents. A sixth kidnap attempt failed, they said.

Two Americans and two Australians were taken from the American school in Gaza City and two French women, members of the human rights group Medecins du Monde (Doctors of the World), were abducted near the village of Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza Strip.

A Swiss national, the head of the local Red Cross office, was kidnapped in the southern Gaza Strip city of Khan Younis, and two Korean and two French journalists were hauled from the al-Deera Hotel on the Gaza City beachfront.

Palestinian officials said an American citizen was also kidnapped in Jenin by PFLP militants.

The kidnappings were also a protest at the withdrawal of the joint British-American force that was entrusted with supervising the imprisonment of Saadat, Shoubaki and the others. According to Palestinian security sources, the monitors left the prison 15 minutes before the Israel military operation began.

In a briefing after the raid, the Israeli army told reporters that it had not consulted with the British and American troops before storming the prison.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw defended his decision to pull out British monitors, telling parliament in London on Tuesday that the security risks were 'unacceptable.'

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, in Vienna for a meeting with European Union officials, condemned the Israeli raid, accusing Israel of violating the terms of the 2002 agreement and warning against the harming of Sa'adat and the other prisoners.

He said he held both the United States and Britain responsible for the outcome of the raid because they withdrew their security forces shortly before the military operation.

A statement issued by his office said that the decision by the US and British warders to leave their posts was a 'grave violation' of the agreement reached in 2002.

Israeli Public Security Minister Gideon Ezra told Israel Radio that once it became clear the warders had left their posts, Israel had no option but to try nab the PFLP men, lest they be released by the incoming Palestinian government headed by the Islamic militant Hamas movement.

An Israeli Army statement said Israel 'decided to take action only when the Palestinian Authority violated its side of the agreement and the terrorists were no longer under the supervision of the American and British inspectors as specified in the agreements.'

The Israel Defence Force, said the statement, 'will act with all means necessary in order to prevent the release of the murderers of Rehavam Zeevi.'

kist


Another Update - US gave Israel tip-off that the monitors were leaving

14.03.2006 23:30

Israel received advance word from the United States that foreign monitors were preparing to withdraw from a West Bank prison which Israeli forces raided on Tuesday to seize Palestinian militants, U.S. officials said.

Militants and the Arab League have accused the United States and Britain of colluding with Israel by withdrawing the monitors from the Jericho prison to clear the way for the capture of Ahmed Saadat and five other militants jailed there.

The United States said it was not part of any plot. But U.S. officials told Reuters Washington had given Israel a copy of a March 8 letter it sent to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas saying monitors could be withdrawn at once unless security conditions were met.

Israel launched its surprise raid on the prison minutes after U.S. and British monitors abandoned the building.

A day-long Israeli siege resulted in the capture of Saadat and sparked attacks on U.S. and British buildings by angry Palestinians and several kidnappings of foreigners.

Israeli Major-General Yair Naveh said there had been no coordination with the United States and Britain, but that Israeli forces began preparing for the raid weeks ago, after learning that international monitors planned to leave.

Naveh said Israel conducted observation missions and pre-positioned enough forces in the area to mount the raid at short notice.

In the March 8 letter, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, the United States and Britain told Abbas that the monitors would be withdrawn "with immediate effect" unless the Palestinian Authority addressed their concerns.

They also expressed concern that Hamas Islamic militants, who won Palestinian elections in January, would free Saadat and the other prisoners after forming a new government. Abbas had also said publicly he would be prepared to free Saadat.

"The pending handover of governmental power to a political party that has repeatedly called for the release of the Jericho detainees also calls into question the political sustainability of the monitoring mission," the letter said.

Saadat was the leader of a Palestinian faction accused of killing an Israeli cabinet minister in 2001.

He was jailed in Jericho in 2002 under a U.S.-brokered deal between Israel and the Palestinian Authority that called for the United States and British to monitor them.

groan


BACKGROUND INFORMATION

15.03.2006 14:01

Gathered a little background information, while trying to educate myself.

These are excerpts from web pages. Please follow the link to get the context of the excerpt. For a look at the history of these events see this site.
 http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm

1) THE 2002 AGREEMENT

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,708509,00.html

Among the Palestinian demands agreed to yesterday was a letter of guarantee from the British and US governments assuring that the six prisoners will never be handed over to the Israeli government, and security guarantees for the men during the transfer.

 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2002/04/mil-020429-usia02.htm

29 April 2002
Bush Pleased with Agreement to End Siege of Arafat Headquarters
(White House report: Press Secretary Ari Fleischer briefed) (480)
BUSH PLEASED WITH AGREEMENT TO END SIEGE OF ARAFAT HEADQUARTERS
President Bush is pleased with steps taken over the weekend to end the
Israeli siege of the headquarters in Ramallah of Palestinian Authority
Chairman Yasser Arafat, White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer told
reporters April 29.
Israel and Arafat over the weekend agreed to a U.S. plan for ending
the siege. The plan calls for the transfer to British and U.S. control
of Palestinian prisoners suspected of involvement in the killing last
October of Israel's tourism minister, a pullback of Israel's tanks,
and freedom for Arafat to travel.

3) Current media reports

I've re-arranged the order of these passages to show the contrast, but please to get a feel for how these events are portrayed look at the article itself.

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1731124,00.html

>The Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, cut short a trip to Europe because of the crisis, and accused Britain and the US of violating agreements by withdrawing the monitors without informing him.
>The Israeli military then attacked the jail, saying it wanted to prevent a Hamas government from carrying out a pledge to release the wanted men.
Israeli forces hit Jericho prison with tank shells and missiles fired from helicopters before smashing through its walls with armoured bulldozers. A policeman and a prisoner were killed in the assault.

4) House of commons record (do a text search for Ramallah agreement)

Again these are excerpts.

First the given reason;

Mr Straw: House will recall that they arrived in Jericho under the Ramallah agreement in 2002, which helped to bring about the end of the siege of President Arafat's compound.
The Ramallah agreement set out clear conditions under which the six Palestinian prisoners would be held. The 14 British and American monitors were there to monitor those conditions, not to detain or protect the prisoners. Regrettably, the Palestinian Authority have never in the past four years met all their obligations under the Ramallah agreement, despite our repeated demands that they do so.
Our monitors faced an increasing threat to their safety. I considered—on advice from officials and security experts—withdrawing them last year, but I judged that, on balance, the risk was just acceptable to allow them to stay. In the light of recent reports, however, I decided that their position was no longer tenable and the security risks were unacceptable. The safety of the British monitors had to be my overriding concern. In my original statement to the House of 29 April 2002, I set out the fact that that was our overriding concern, but also the principal responsibility of the Palestinian Authority.

Now the argument:

Mr Straw: What we required of the Palestinian Authority was very straightforward—that they kept to the detailed conditions of the operational procedures for the Authority, as agreed in an annexe to the Ramallah agreement. That agreement included no use of mobile telephones, but they were used. Mr. Sa'adat, the leader of the Palestinians who stood in the Palestinian election, ran an election campaign from his cell with his telephone. There were supposed to be restrictions on visitors—they were ineffective—and on correspondence. Moreover, conditions for the monitors became so difficult that they could not carry out cell searches. A fundamental part of the Ramallah agreement was that the six prisoners in question should be kept separate from all other prisoners. However, the monitors were unable to be within the prison; instead, they had to stay on the roof, making effective monitoring increasingly difficult. That was the fundamental problem and putting it right could have been very straightforward—simply by following the Ramallah agreement. I regret that the Palestinian Authority did not have it within them to do so.

Mr. Peter Kilfoyle (Liverpool, Walton) (Lab): As the Foreign Secretary said, these are accused, not convicted, men. However, can he give unequivocal confirmation that there was no collusion with the Israelis on the timing of the withdrawal of the monitors, and will he condemn what I can only describe as state-sponsored terrorism, involving attacking a prison with tanks and rockets?

Mr. Straw: I can absolutely give that undertaking to my hon. Friend—there was indeed no collusion. (shortened)

Unfortunatly I can't find the text of the Ramallah agreement.

If you read the House of Commons Hansard Debates for 14 Mar 2006 (pt 5) you cannot fail to notice that Jack straw knew there would be a violent backlash. Notifying the British consulate ect. I think you would be a fool to imagine that they did not have a good idea about what Israel's actions would be. Not one word of condemnation of Israel's action by our government.

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crap

14.03.2006 16:46

utter and complete crap. not a word of this is true.

please remove moderators

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A murderer faces his justice

14.03.2006 17:41

My it would be sad if Saadat has to face Israeli justice, after his murder of Israeli cabinet minister, Rehavam Ze'evi last year his days were always numbered.

People need to realise the Israeli nation never forgets those who kill its children, its men its women.

Justice is coming and its coming from Jerusalem

Israel never forgets


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A deal is a deal

14.03.2006 17:43

I find your contributors' comments misinformed and risible. A deal's a deal. When Abbas mused about *releasing* Sa'adat (presumably to butter up Hamas), he broke the word of the PA re: the incarceration of Ze'evi's killers. When the British removed the monitors (complaining that the PA was not honouring the terms of the deal with the Israelis) it was obvious what would happen next.

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Human Rights

14.03.2006 17:44

I dont see what the big fuss about "Human rights violation" is about, all thats happening is a move of terrorists from one prison to another.

The 6 terrorists held captive in Jericho are responsible for the murder of Israeli civilians and they are held there under an agreement, which Hamas claims it doesnt recognise, when the Palestinians started taking steps to release the terrorists Israel stepped in and took them into prison, please rethink before you repeat the hollow rethoric of "Israel kills poor Palestinians, Israel is to blame, bad Israel".

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Same again

14.03.2006 17:45

Once again, people are misinformed, leading to the hackneyed anti-Israel drivel. US & UK officials were repeatedly threatened & harassed. The Palestinians couldn't ensure protection. Hamas had vowed to release all the prisoners. Once the UK & US officials left for security reasons, the IDF swept in to make sure Hamas didn't make good on their promise. Those who murder Israeli ministers don't deserve to be set free. But who are you to have facts standing in the way?!

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Hamza Karim, Ramallah

14.03.2006 17:46

We harbour terrorists in our midst and kidnap foreigners and do nothing. We then we complain when the occupiers knock down our front door to capture these people in the name of the justice that we the Palestinians should be doing.

Our leaders do nothing for our image to the world & we now have Hamas to tell us that only Allah will be our saviour. We the real unheard majority of Palestine that are desperate - we are not all murderers, terrorists or kidnappers as people like Ahmed Saadat would make you believe.



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Think about it

14.03.2006 17:48

Palestinians break the terms of THEIR agreement.

Israel break the terms of THEIR agreement.

The UK keeps its part of the agreement as far as possible without endangering the lives of its staff; and is courteous enough to warn both parties several times of its intended action.

How anyone could argue this is some how the fault of the UK govnmt is beyond me and beyond reason.

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they have guns !

14.03.2006 17:50

Curious how these prisoners have been able to hold out against a surprise raid by the Israeli army. You'd think armed solders could just walk in to a prison without fear. But wait ... these prisoners appear to have guns. Could this be the trivial secuity issue that British and American monitors were so concerned about?



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View from London

14.03.2006 17:52

Ahmed Saadat runs a terrorist organization called the PFLP, which has carried out numerous murders of Israelis. Despite an agreement by the Palestinians to keep him in prison, he continued to organise suicide bombings as well as assassinations. It was clear that the British and American monitors had very little control. Now they have had to flee, it is obvious that Saadat would have a free hand to continue his killings. The Palestinians, as ever, have failed to keep their word, so the Israelis have no choice but to ensure that he stays in custody.



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Peace ?

14.03.2006 17:53

Israel has withdrawn from Gaza, resulting in an excalation of Qassim rocket attacks on the people of Israel. Israel has allowed workers to cross into Israel from the West Bank, resulting in yet more terrorist bombings. Israel has not hindered Palestinian elections, resulting in demented Islamist Hamas being given power by the Palestinian people.

A people who elect as their representatives those who say proudly that they wish to destroy Israel and the Jews can expect little sympathy from Israel when they protest about some nonsensical 'Peace'.

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I don't get it

14.03.2006 17:55

I simply cannot understand the postings here. Of course there is a link between the Israeli attack on the prison and the withdrawal by US/UK troops - the deal was broken! Once Saadat came under sole control of the PA there was no reason for Israel to accept that he was being punished for his terrorist actions.

Saadat is a terrorist murderer, who has been held in PA custody on sufferance instead of being 'extradited' to face justice for his crimes. How long would the HAMAS administration hold him in prison for? The ignorance shown by many of the comments here is stunning, and shows poorly on Indymedia's claim to be a fair and unprejudiced news source.

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Simple

14.03.2006 17:55

THis would not have happend had the PA read the "Warden's guide to prison management" and understood its 2 key components: 1. Keep prisoners in 2.Do not let them out. Sadaat's imminent release, and those of dozens of other murderers of late, was the cause of this and yet this seems to have escaped media scrutiny. NO surpise.

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Little children

14.03.2006 17:56

In the wave of Palestinian unrest that followed the Israeli raid in Jericho:The director of International Red Cross in Gaza was kidnapped by gunmen.Two French members of the Medecins du Monde charity in Gaza were also seized.Two Australian teachers were abducted by militants from a school in northern Gaza.
A British Council cultural centre in Gaza was set ablaze and an EU compound stormed.
The Palestinians are behaving like brats - they think they can lash out at anyone and everyone but will still expect everyone to back them against Israel. Personally I'm not impressed and don't see why we SHOULD be backing this lot that are behaving like anti-social teenagers.

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The terrorist acts on the road to the genocide of Iran

14.03.2006 19:50

Today saw a sickening and vile act of jewish terrorism in the West Bank. Be in no doubt, this murderous operation that butchered guards and prisoners at a facility effectively OPERATING at the behest of the UN and Britain, was given the green light by Blair, and his trio of GENOCIDAL NEOCONS, MANDELSON, GOLDSMITH AND STRAW.

NOW YOU SEE WHY THE CHIEF RABBI OF GREAT BRITAIN WAS SO OUTRAGED THAT ORDINARY BRITISH CHRISTIANS DEMANDED DIVESTMENT FROM CATERPILLAR. I have no doubt that he is personally aware of how many terrorist operartions the Israelis have planned as soon as Iran is attacked, and wants to ensure that Israel has ALL the tools it needs to execute them.

WHO WILL PUNISH ISRAELI TERRORISM. Every Israel terrorist that attacked the prison compound (or planned or assisted the attack in ANY way) is responsible for the murder of the people there. When will they be arrested? When will they be tried? Oh, I'm sorry, jewish terrorist are above the law, aren't they? They can murder who they want, when they want, where they want. Indeed, when they've murdered enough, Spielberg will make a movie about them, glorifying their atrocities.

The BBC calls them Israeli forces. Funny, isn't it. The BBC can't mention the word Islamic (or Iranian) without using the adjectives militant or terrorist, and like Indymedia UK, the BBC effectively bans the phrase jewish terrorist- now how do you justify that? How many Israelis are in prison for their part in the execution of political leaders of other ethnic groups (given that they have murdered thousands of these across the years). Try exactly ZERO. However, the BBC agrees that Israeli jews have the right to murder unlimited numbers of none jews if any of their people are killed.

The BBC also confirm that the raid that butchered both guards and prisoners was ACTIVATED when UK and US monitors told the Israelis that they had vacated the facility, and that the death squads could go in and murder the self-same people that the UK/US team had been working with only the day before. Ring a bell? A TV station in Serbia blown to pieces by Blair when people from the BBC gave the signal that all foreign journalists had left the building.

WHO WILL PUNISH THIS VILE ACT OF TERRORISM BY BLAIR, STRAW AND THE ISRAELIS

Now try turning to ITN (who make Channel 4 news). Did you know that ITN ONLY allows the death of jews in Palestine to be described as murder. Death of non-jews in Palestine must ONLY be called 'killing'. CHANNEL 4 NEWS IS OWNED AND MADE BY THE ITN. ITN is owned by zionists who support each and every terrorist act of Israel. Channel 4 News modifies its language to give the impression of being distinct from ITN's other news programs, in the same way that The Guardian, Blair's main pro-war, anti-war paper, targets the same so-called liberal audience.

Today, Blair's jewish warlord operated with Israel to butcher helpless victims in a prison complex, and demonstrated to the wider muslim world that NO agreement made with muslims will be honoured in any form. These are the pre-shocks that occur before Blair's genocide of Iran. Expect a lot more.

twilight


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let them have it

14.03.2006 21:34

jew hater

a test


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catch me if you can

14.03.2006 21:36

no comment

and this one?


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all must go

14.03.2006 21:39

jew

another try


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all must go

14.03.2006 21:42

jew

another try


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2sam you knob, what you doing reading this?

14.03.2006 21:43

2sam you knob, what you doing reading this?

blaa blaa


More details available

15.03.2006 17:17

I don't know what happened to my earlier attempt but perhaps all for the best since that was raising questions about details I have now been able to determine.

a) Of course the article description of the monitor/wardens being there to protect the prisoners was bizarre to say the least. If you ever find yourself in durance vile remember, the warden is NOT your friend, not there to protect you but to keep you in custody.

b) Apparently for some time now the monitors have been objecting to deteriorating conditions in the prison and their growing lack of control over the guards. Presumably as a result of the statements by those about to take power that these prisoners would be released the guards had been allowing in unauthorized visitors, givign the prisoners cell phones, etc. >

c) These objections (and warnings that if not addressed they would pull out) were in the form of communications to the Plaestinian authorities. The Israelis were sent copies each time >. I have not seen any of the texts of these, but obviously if there were some along the lines "you order the guards to follow orders so we can continue our role as warden/monitors by March Nth or we are out of here" then it should be obvuious why the Israelis were ready to act the moment they spotted the exodus.

d) It is far less clear why the Palestinians were not prepared for the pullout. Surely they had to realize that if the prisoners were not liberated minutes after the monitors left (and the agreement ended) . Surely they knew the Israelis would act. Of course we need to keep in mind that the Palestinian militants are not united and there are many factions. Perhaps the faction controlling the ground near the prison (before the Israleis arrived) thought it not in THEIR interest that leaders of some other faction be released. Or perhaps even as a unified decision, that if the prisoners couldn't be released as a big political event it was better to suffer the Israelis siezing them for whatever gains could be made from that. Only those conversant with the intricaices of Palestinain power politics should even attempt to speculate. I'm not, even Israeli politics, although fairly open, is too complex for me to understand.

Mike Novack
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More lies

16.03.2006 04:15

"How many Israelis are in prison for their part in the execution of political leaders of other ethnic groups (given that they have murdered thousands of these across the years)"

Excuse me? Who are the "thousands" of political leaders who have been executed.
Perhaps point me to a list, or maybe just list the first hundred or so.

Failing that, admit you are a liar and the rest of your drivel is about as credible.

Your love of terrorists, and your hatred of Jews has clouded your ability to look beyond the propaganda at simple facts.

Not that any of this matters of course, UK Indymedia have censored this entire discussion, lest it not make Israel look bad...

TH


Re More lies

16.03.2006 12:23

Hi

Could you clarify which article you are refering to, and maby explain a bit more about your oppinions concerning the prison attack.
Your coment comes across as a shout I would be interested in hearing your views.

Regards

Human


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