Fair comment. Don't Western Governments incite hatred and violence when they want to wage wars against third world countries like Afghanistan and Iraq? The kind of violence used by the US and British armed forces dwarfs anything attributable to Abu Hamza or even Saddam Hussein. For instance just one B52 bomber can deliver 31 TONS (Yes, tons) of bombs and they fly hundreds of sorties (or thousands in the case of Vietnam). What about the war mongering media with headlines like `GOTCHA` and `He's (Saddam) got 'em now let's get him` - referring to the non existent WMDs.

SInce the trials were both conducted by a jury and not a judge, we should respect their veredicts

a number of people have been accused of the ridiculous charge of possessing 'information useful to a terrorist'. All of them Islamic. I personally possess lots of information useful to terrorists. For instance, the fact that the public are easily scared into a 'lets bomb them before they bomb us' mentality, that information proved useful to Britains biggest serial-killer, Tony Blair.

Hamza and the BNP are both assets run by MI5/MI6, so I don't get what your point is? It just so happens that Hamza is being 'retired' as an 'active' asset, and his 'retirement' used as yet another psy-op. Hamza is no different from that 'magic' little knot of people at the London muslim demo, with the placards ALL in the same hand, and ALL nicely posed for press photos.

Or perhaps you want to suggest that those people supposedly behind the phony torture pictures in The Mirror, publicised at the SELF-SAME-TIME as a real batch of torture photos (unshown, of course) were in the news, were NOT engaged in a 'poisoning the well' operation on behalf of the state?

The legal system is predictable, which is why it is the legal system we have. If it didn't serve its masters, it would be changed.

Anyway, all those people in Britain who visibly and loudly spout on about unfocused and aggressive political acts, whether seemingly from the left or right, or muslim or christian, are actually coralled and controlled by the state. This is hardly a suprise. Street fighting between 'the left' and 'the right' brought Hitler to power, but Hitler as a person, and Hitler as a thinker, was a long way removed from the 'thick heads' that made all the noise, and advocated all the random violence.

The BNP and Hamza are DIFFERENT means to the SAME end.

Those people that argue against the BNP claiming that they fight an IMMEDIATE fascist danger are a joke. Those people that argue against Hamza, claiming that they fight an IMMEDIATE extremist muslim danger are a joke.

Both operations are intended as distractions for those that could otherwise be using their energies to fight the real and growing danger, and also as a source of propaganda for the general public.

The street fighters of pre-Nazi Germany were NOT the people that burnt the world a few years later, but they did unwittingly help bring those people to power.

For god's sake people, a world war benefits no-one, and yet people are dumb enough to be fooled by crap like the state manipulation of idiot hotheads to sleep walk into one.

Was the jury completely uncontaminated by the tidal wave of islamophobic sentiment being thrust at us on a daily basis courtesy of the media?

Even if they only read Indymedia they wouldn't be. Would they?

Twilight, we've been missing you! Or maybe I haven't been reading enough of the unpromoted bilge recently. At the weekend, I happened to notice a GOON who was in the act of ACTUALLY poisoning a well. On engaging the GOON in conversation, it turned out that he was ACTUALLY a TROLL called 'Quite-Like'. He revealed that he was following the orders of his 'handler', who is ACTUALLY a spider in the middle of a web (or something, I was losing interest by this point), and he proved this point by waving a FALSE FLAG in front of me. It turns out that this might have been you, Twilight, pretending to be working for the enemy and POISONING THE WELL deliberately in order to throw someone or other off the scent, so that people would think that it couldn't have been you who was spreading misinformation by pointing the finger at other, REALLY false smokescreens for a RED HERRING who was ACTUALLY in the middle of the web, having eaten the spider in a meal which had all the trappings of a MOSSAD-CIA operation. And then .....

The Newswire is Dead! Long Live the Promoted Newswire!