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Griffin's nazi boot-boys outnumbered again

John Constantine | 16.01.2006 22:48 | Anti-racism | Culture | Social Struggles

Report on Griffin court case demo

Report on Griffin court case demo

Once again, the BNP failed to drum up support for their glorious leader, Nick Griffin, as he went to court on four charges of incitement to racial hatred. Even after weeks of begging and pleading with his members to turn up en masse, preferably in their suits, to protest his innocence, less than a hundred arrived and most of those looked like ageing boot-boys, even the contingent from the BNP-front 'Christian Council of Britain'.

As usual, the response from UAF was great, around seven or eight hundred people turning up as the (very wet) day progressed, all enthusiastic and ready to boo his lordship as he went into the court. Five of us went up from Lancaster, half a dozen from Barrow and a bunch of great anti-fascists from Ulverston. Even the police were on their best behaviour, dishing out warnings all over the place and frowning at everyone - even passers-by - but not generally getting too heavy.

There were only a couple of small dramas: one came when a bunch of nazi heavies tried to get into the crowd of anti-fascists for reasons of their own and were hussled out pretty speedily. The police piled in and shoved them off down the road. While the heavies were being shoved, one of their mob continued to take pictures of the anti-fascists, no doubt for inclusion on Redwatch at some point. I got a couple of pictures of this guy and when he realised I was taking pictures of him, he started walking towards me - presumably in an attempt to be intimidating - so I stopped and asked if he was one of the nazis. Of course, he assumed I was one of theirs because he grinned and said yes. So much for Nick Griffin's claim that the BNP's nazi past is behind them.

One of our Lancaster contingent saw Roy Goodwin, of Blackpool BNP, going into the court, so shouted, 'Keep the BNP out of Blackpool.' Goodwin's response was to make an obscene gesture and shout, 'Traitor', back at him. Nice guy. And this is the man the BNP wanted to have in Parliament?

The only other drama was at the rally in front of Leeds wonderful art gallery. The speakers were speaking and the crowd was listening when a couple of nazi dimwits decided to walk up the middle of the road waving flags of the cross of St George. Dear oh dear. When told to push off by the police, they went pretty speedily but really, is this all the so-called master race can offer? Provocation, intimidation, stupidity and abuse?

It's great fun going to a demo - especially an important one like this. Not only do you get to shout at nazis (which is always fun), you also get to meet some excellent people and make a hell of a lot of useful contacts. Demonstrations are worth going on for a lot of reasons and the cause, of course, is paramount, but there's a kind of comradeship that shows itself up wonderfully in adversity.

When a couple of nazis tried to worm their way on to our side of the demo, the person who spotted them and shouted out was immediately joined by a dozen other protestors for safety and support; a guy I'd never met before warned me at one point that a nazi cameraman was trying to take a picture of me and joined me in shooing him away; I watched as a crowd of protestors (and protectors) instantly clustered around as the police began to harass a young lad who had shouted some (mild) abuse at a nazi.

Then we spoke to the happy bunch of people who had started off at 4.30am in order to arrive on time - they weren't pissed off that they'd had to get up when I'm normally going to bed; they were pleased that they'd made the effort, done what they felt they should and were meeting a lot more friendly allies. These are the kind of things that make you feel the world's not entirely full of crap and that there are plenty of people out there who are worth working for and with. If you can make it to the next anti-fascist demo, I'll introduce you to them. :-)

Oh, and a tiny footnote. At one point, the BNP broke into as much as they know of Jerusalem. That's a revolutionary song - I wonder why they sing it?

John Constantine
- e-mail: lancaster.uaf@zen.co.uk
- Homepage: http://82.69.12.18/lancasteruafblog/

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Now I remember...

17.01.2006 01:22

Now I remember why I don't read this site. This kind of opinionated crap belongs on a blog, not on a website trying to promote itself as a credible source for impartial journalism. Perhaps try your hand at keeping a diary?

Mark


an explanation?

17.01.2006 09:37

Why more communists turned up than nazis is probably down to the uaf lot are mostly unemployed dole scrougers and gimpy failing students with nothing else better to do then hang on street corners in their hooded tops, whereas the bnp crowd are employed and struggle to get time off work and other committments?

:-P


an possible explanation...

17.01.2006 10:07

Why more communists turned up than nazis is probably down to the uaf lot are mostly unemployed dole scrougers and gimpy failing students with nothing else better to do then hang on street corners in their hooded tops, whereas the bnp crowd are employed and struggle to get time off work and other committments?

JE


an possible explanation...

17.01.2006 10:07

Why more communists turned up than nazis is probably down to the uaf lot are mostly unemployed dole scrougers and gimpy failing students with nothing else better to do then hang on street corners in their hooded tops, whereas the bnp crowd are employed and struggle to get time off work and other committments?

JE


an explanation?

17.01.2006 10:25

Why more communists turned up than nazis is probably down to the uaf lot are mostly unemployed dole scrougers and gimpy failing students with nothing else better to do then hang on street corners in their hooded tops, whereas the bnp crowd are employed and struggle to get time off work and other committments?

JE


not sure about your explanation

17.01.2006 11:32

as neither a failing student or dole scrounger, i booked time off work for this demo (against the bnp).
many of my relatives, who are bnp supporters, did not.

smash the fash


The Master Race speaks

17.01.2006 11:44

I'm still trying to master this whole inter-web thing, you see. That's an possible explanation.

Maybe if I try posting four more times, it'll work.

Benito Griffolini


Another explanation

17.01.2006 14:31

...is that the BNP fans were all too strung out on smack and glue to get out of their semen-encrusted beds, were too busy viewing kiddie porn or were arguing with their DSS officer.

Most of you piglets are too thick to get jobs - except as bouncers or shagpieces to one-eyed Griffin.

and by the way, Mark, IMC has never claimed to be an "impartial" news site (whatever "impartial" means). It is an unashamedly lefty site for unashamedly lefty people, just as the Daily Mail is overtly right wing.

Get over it.

Ha ha you nazis are paedo dickheads and yer leader's going down


BNP and HE don't mix

17.01.2006 14:35

Why all the bitterness towards students, nazi-boy?

Is it because your average BNPer is too dim to pass A-levels? It would certainly explain why you wet yourselves in hero-worship whenever one of your dismal kind manages to scrape a third at some piss-poor college, like a certain Kevin Scott.

Compared to the rest of you he must seem like Albert fucking Einstein.

Smarter than the average nazi


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Explanation

18.01.2006 01:26

The reason there were less BNP activists than marxists is because of state perecution. These days if somebody joins a protest to try and save their nation, it's likely that they'll lose they'll be arrested on the orders of whatever spineless, political arse kissing police chief. Then would come the court cases, , getting sacked from their jobs, threats to their families from red scum, ect. While the reds jump on the bandwagon they get supported every step of the way by the government's tolerance industry and their leaders end up getting included on the new years honours list. If people were free to voice their true opinions and work towards real change in society then I think we'd see a rapid change against the sea of decedance that's destroying this once great nation.

Humpty Dumpty


Why is it that you supposedly anti-System.....

18.01.2006 10:27

Why is it that you supposedly anti-System, anti-capitalist Marxian/Anarchist 'revolutionaries' are always in full support of the System when it comes to prosecuting racists, fascists, etc.?

If the BNP et al are all working for the Bosses, then why does the Bosses' Judicial System keep dragging these people in court for being racist? Why do the 'racist police' spend more time trying to get White racists locked up than they do dealing with drugs dealers and burglars, paedophiles and conmen?

Is it because the Capitalists really love multiculturalism? Looks like it to me. The Tories brought in the 1986 Public Order Act, the New Labour tories are always bringing in legislation to stop racism and make crimes worse if they are 'racist'.

Well, it looks like it to me. Maybe we should shout 'Blame the bosses FOR the Blacks'?

Why are most 'anti-fascists' middle-class anyway? None of you seem to live on council estates, you all seem to have good jobs and nice houses and live miles from any coloured people. Your mummies and daddies are the same, have you have had your electricity cut off when you were kids cos your single-parent unemployed mum couldn't afford to pay the bill? Did any of you live on a council estate with outside toilets until 1987? I did, betcha not many of you lot did, you're all from the suburbs and the countryside. Rich kids with bad consciences.

88


babababa

18.01.2006 12:33

Hahahahahaa, Brilliant post 88! 8/10 for originality.

"Why is it that you supposedly anti-System, anti-capitalist Marxian/Anarchist 'revolutionaries' are always in full support of the System when it comes to prosecuting racists, fascists, etc.?"

Because we don't like you. At first I was a little put off by the thought of Jailing Griffin and Collett, because I don't really believe in the state jailing people for political offences, and I thought it would lead to a rise in sympathy for the BNP, but after reading today (in the Daily Mail no less) that they could get 7 years I'm all for it. If Griffin and Collett do that ammount of time, or even half of that as would be the case, then who's going to take over the BNP? Griffin and Collett are two of the only intelligent, credible fascists out there, and without them you lot are going to be like a headless chickens once more.

With your indepth knowledge of the anti-fascist scene, have you ever thought of writing a book? I bet it won't be as good as this one:  http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0903738759/qid=1137587478/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/203-8672269-1290327

Roger


Nazi troll embarrasses himself

18.01.2006 12:52

Hey 88, that would be quite a good point, if it wasn't complete bollocks!

Now crawl back to your sewer and take your bitter little fantasies with you, fuckwit.

'Orrible


no platform to nazi scum

18.01.2006 13:01

Indymedia should not allow nazi's to voice their opinions on this website, history tells us that once in power the nazi's will kill opposition and deny free speech. However i do think that most people who read indymedia are against nazis , but we should uphold the traditional principle of no platform.

the above nazi claims that the anti nazis are middle class. firstly, he needs to look at the BNP leader, nick griffith is very middle class, in fact the fascist traditionally are usaually supported by the middle class.

The ruling class has been forced to play down racists policy due to pressure mainly from the black and white working class. people have learnt that working class unity is everything, the nazis and the bosses hate black and white unity because when the working class fight ,they are much stronger when we are together.

The nazi's help the bosses and the system, hitler was quite prepared to kill trade unionists and jews.


NO PLATFORM TO NAZI

UAF supporter


reflection

18.01.2006 23:00

" history tells us that once in power the nazi's will kill opposition and deny free speech."

Exactly the same can be said of communists.

The extreme right and the extreme left are as bad as each other as both use force to compel citizens to obey the draconian and totalitarian state authority.

Do we allow both or allow neither to have freedom of speech?

Paulos

Paulos


Allow Fascist Speech

20.01.2006 02:19

Of course Fascists should be allowed to post on Indymedia. Because it incenses
and ensures that their criminal past (be it Belsen, Fraud or Class A Drug Supply)
is open to scrutiny. Allowing Fascists to post is different to giving them a platform.

For Example:

A MAN who fought as a BNP candidate in Huddersfield has admitted a drugs crime.
Karl Hanson, 34, was fined £400 for possessing class A drugs with intent to supply when he appeared at Leeds Crown Court. He was also ordered to pay £40 costs. The Crown Prosecution Service dropped charges of supplying heroin and crack cocaine. Hanson, of Fieldhead Way, Heckmondwike, pleaded guilty to the possession charge. He told the court that the drugs he had bought were for a woman friend who had a drug addiction.

From the BNP Manifesto:

"While every effort will be made to help addicts to recover, individuals
convicted of the importation and large-scale dealing of hard drugs
will face the death penalty."

It is not a platform - it a self condemnation. The spewing hate filled Sid Williamson Moderated Message board is a platform - which ought to vanish - but Indymedia is
where Fascist underlings just increase their natural inferiority.

Ambitious Fascists in the BNP or BPP will always be crushed by their masters. Indymedia shows them how they can reform their lives.

Pete Todd


The BNP are not Nazis, they just oppose mass immigration!

25.01.2006 09:58

The BNP are not Nazis they just oppose mass immigration. Opposing mass immigration and the flood of tens of thousands of asylum seekers into this country is not racist, it is common sense. For a start asylum seekers are required by international law to seek asylum in the FIRST safe country they come to. Therefore no asylum seekers are legally here. And while there is mass unemployment and homelessness here in Britain it is totally stupid to keep inviting foreigners into this country.

Concerned


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