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Unpleasant pictures from Palestine

anonymous | 27.12.2005 20:20 | Repression | World

Pictures of a killing in Palestine

a killing
a killing


Images like these would happen more frequently if the army did not confiscate - against its own rules - activists' and journalists' cameras in order to delete all their material.

anonymous

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Propaganda...

28.12.2005 01:49


First, what's a "Plastinian"?

Secondly, care to provide some context here? A search for the name of the deceased shows nothing at all but other versions of precisely this. It does not suggest why he was arrested or shot, and there are plenty of legitimate reasons why this could have occurred.

Perhaps if you forwarded more images like this one, people might learn that there will be peace only when the Arabs love their own children more than they hate the Jews.

TH

Forward this as well

28.12.2005 01:58

Child abuse
Child abuse

Witness the culture of death
Witness the culture of death

See how Hamas uses children as human shields
See how Hamas uses children as human shields

There will be peace only when the Arabs love their own children more than they hate the Jews.

TH

first ...

28.12.2005 10:30

... refresh your roman history if you want to know when the name Palestine became associated with the region - ie 2000 years ago - besides, what is in a name? The people of the region have lived their in an unbroken chain since even before the romans ... not all of them from the tribes of israel.

What do you expect the children of Palestine to do when zionists invade their country and push them into the largest open aired prison and the single most densest concentration of humans on the planet? Hide? Leave?

No answers there I presume?

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The zionscum parasite beggar state of israhell

28.12.2005 12:09

has no right to exist. If you're pissed about the situation in the land you stole, go find a new home where the zionscum will be welcome. Not on this planet I bet.

jumbo

Legitimate???

28.12.2005 12:46

> "It does not suggest why he was arrested or shot, and there are plenty of legitimate reasons why this could have occurred. "

There may be legitimate reasons why this person was stopped and arrested, but to be shot in the head whilst defensless, lying on the ground and stripped to the underwear? How is that ever justified as 'legitimate'?????

No more war

A simple challenge

28.12.2005 14:09


If as you naively claim the Palestinians "have lived their in an unbroken chain since even before the romans" I have a simple challenge.

Can you name a single 'Palestinian' leader prior to Yasser Arafat.

If you want to talk about history, you will lose. There is no archaeological or anthropological evidence to support a Palestinian history.

If you want to talk about the present, that's fine. Start with coming to terms with the idea Israel is there to stay. The Palestinians cannot bring themselves to accept the Jews, and thus deny themselves a future. The Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

All of the anti-semitic claptrap on this post doesn't warrant a response. AS for the questions pertaining to the above story, if he was found carrying explosives, a single shot to the head would be an effective way of ensuring no further injuries. He got 72 virgins anyway. For all we know, he was shot in the head by aliens (or other Palestinians). There is no backstory and it's a bunch of rubbish. It's nothing new for the Palestinian cause to fabricate evidence, swallowed hook line and sinker by many, yet later found to be completely untrue. Their leaders are comfortable lying and they are masters at manipulating the media (see attached image). See also "the Jenin massacre". There's no point even discussing the above in the absence of reliable objective facts, none of which you'll ever find on UK Indymedia.

Better to address the more relevant point of Palestinian children being incited to hate and kill themselves for Allah. See:  http://pmw.org.il for the disgraceful bloodthirsty nature of Palestinian childrens tv.

TH

FFS! What a pathetic fake

28.12.2005 14:39

Mmmm... let's see. First three photos taken with one camera (the lighting/resolution etc is all the same) and the last two taken with another. In the first 3 all the soldiers are wearing khaki. In the last two the security forces are in dark blue/black(?).

First 3 look like a straight-forward arrest. The last 2 could be the IDF approaching a victim of Palestinian on Palestinian violence!

Typical of the anti-Israel mob - mixing and matching situations to suit their hatred of the only democracy in the middle-east.

pro-truth

Palestinian Peace Movement

28.12.2005 17:35

Armed men snatch three Britons – a woman, man and child – in Egyptian Sinai and carry them by force through the Rafah crossing into the Gaza Strip

December 28, 2005, 5:29 PM (GMT+02:00)

According to one report, the abductors are members of the Palestinian Popular Resistance Committees who recently threatened to "cleanse" the crossing terminal. Last week, the British Foreign Office warned citizens not to enter the Gaza Strip for any reason for fear of kidnapping or other forms of terror.

Ho Hum

not agreeing with other posts but...

28.12.2005 18:17

I don't agree with above posts, just wanted to say that jumbo is an anti-semite, and prejudice and ignorance aren't going to solve this conflict or any other.

for peace for all

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Hoax City - Indymedia mos miss the point again

28.12.2005 18:28

The fact that what is clearly a hoax followed by some of the most Anti Semetic and disgraceful remarks ever published on indymedia goes to the root of the corruption and bias at the heart of Indymedia.

Wikipedia notes the 'UK' version of IMC as having a reputation of censorship -

"Posts of a "hate-speech" nature - racist, sexist, homophobic or similarly proscribed - are at times difficult to distinguish between harshly worded criticisms which should not be deleted. Another source of complaints are deletions of posts which do not necessarily violate "hate speech" proscriptions. The UK site has acquired a reputation for such deletions, and became the target of a campaign to change that policy, as have some west coast US IMC's."

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indymedia

Yet the fact that this twaddle and some of the comments added are still here shows the hypocrisy of the indymedia mods. They have allowed this website to become nothing more than a collection of absurd conspiracy theories, idiotic rants and personal blogs - how
"MUHAMMAD HAQUE POLITICAL POETRY" counts as news I will never know.

In conclusion this article is complete crap and should be consigned to the bin, yet the bias at the core of indymedia is apparent once again.

PS - If any of you want to post insulting comments about me and what universe I live on email me personally and I will be happy to meet you and you can tell me to my face, thats if your mom lets you.  bobdebilde@gmail.com

Overlord

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Indymedia Wikipedia entry

28.12.2005 19:24

Note that at the top of the Wikipedia article is the disclaimer: "The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see discussion on the talk page."

Someone added the sentence "The UK site has acquired a reputation for such deletions, and became the target of a campaign to change that policy, as have some west coast US IMC's."

So that means there's at least one person out there, identity unknown, (probably "overlord" himself, some conspiracy nutter nursing a grudge) who holds this opinion and wrote it down on Wikipedia. So that makes it true? That's your authoritative source?

"Wikipedia notes..." Heh heh heh... Nice try.

There are plenty of other POV items in that article, e.g. entries about "leftist human rights", slanted assertions about editorial policy, etc., and the entry has become just one more of umpteen political battlefields on Wikipedia. That's why it's got the disclaimer at the top, which indicates that it's unreliable. So much for your crusade against hypocrisy.

Print yourself a copy of that wikipedia article, "overlord". That and cash will get you screwed by whores. :)

caltrops

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It's Christmas time...

28.12.2005 19:30

and the Indymedia admins have probably got their feet up, eating leftover mince pies.
I reckon this will be flushed sometime tomorrow, like most of the racist crap that gets spammed here.

Ger

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caltrops ought to learn to read a whole artice

29.12.2005 00:11

You will note caltrops that on the discussion page where the the issue of censorship is discussed no one is suggesting that this is wrong rather that it does not go far enough. A link is provided to help you lazy ass.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Independent_Media_Center

Overlord

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While the censorship is down

29.12.2005 00:12

This forum has become a much more active and interesting place
People are actually talking to each other, albeit antagonistically at present
Long may the self-appointed editors and censors maintain their chilling time
There's some activity going on here at last

dh

... still on page one th ...

29.12.2005 11:37

... of the boy scouts guide to zionist propaganda that is!

It is pointless aiming any kind of question, correction, appeal for fair play or just plain old decency at a zionist boy scout.

Trained as they are to see a valid historical truth ... and run away from it (unless they can make it illegal to suggest it), no amount of remedial lessons in ethics, philosophy or history will suffice ...

... so this is for everybody else here ...

Firstly, old pictures of a press conference called to demonstrate ... with reference to those affected through firsthand (original source) interviews ... against the 22 foot high prison walls being built across their land ...

Next, do a search for Albert Glock ... reknowned archeologists who met an untimely death at the height of his investigation and reporting of interesting and highly relivant work relating to the extent of continual occupation by coherent - NON JEWISH - groups of people who saw themselves as a distinct social units.

Finally ... it is a facinating study, watching the ebb and flow of postings about israel and zionism here, and other places on the net that 'run a tight ship[sic]' regarding 'editorial guidelines'. One would think that it is only possible to offend zionists and their defenders by the amount of material that is removed for what seems to be the most precarious of justifications ... and yet still see the vile racist - and quite frankly idiotic and purile - tosh put out by people like th.

The same old lines, that if they were reversed at them, would see legislation used against their dissemination.

How many deaths (in jenin) does it take to make a massacre? Depends what religion they were!

And of course we cannot be allowed to believe in these pictures of summery, ex-judicial, execution - which by both the laws of israel and within wider jewish based law systems when in relation to non jews, is not at all illegal or unusual.

But apparently, if you mention the plain facts of this, you become an anti-semite (or if you are lucky, a self hater).

No elephants are allowed in the living room please.

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