"Iraqi security officials on Monday variously accused the two Britons they detained of shooting at Iraqi forces or trying to plant explosives."

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091900572.html?nav=rss_world

“What our police found in their car was very disturbing — weapons, explosives and a remote control detonator,” Sheikh Hassan said. “These are the weapons of terrorists. We believe these soldiers were planning an attack on a market or other civilian targets, and thanks be to god they were stopped and countless lives were saved.”

Blair fully understood how important the fallout from this revealed British Terror Operation would be. He immediately ordered the news organisations throughout the UK to flood their coverage with more psy-ops from the cover story for his London bombings in an attempt to divert the attention of the public.

For the SLIGHTLY less distractable, Blair ordered the SAME cover story for the British Basra bombers as Blair and Putin used when their Moscow Apartment bombers were caught red-handed. That is to say, the British just happened to be dressed as 'insurgents' and just happened to be carrying detonators and explosives to make themselves 'look convincing'!!! Sounds totally moronic? Well some have posted exactly this to Indymedia, and other places.

Can there be anyone left who does not now understand how far Blair is prepared to go to execute his sick and evil plans. Bang goes the idiotic belief that Blair is ANYBODY'S DUPE, or that the British Army were in Basra, as a token force, because Basra was a safe untroubled part of Iraq. Blair uses TERRORISM as Hitler used terrorism, and every monster before him. When Blair murdered people in London, he did so for immediate and actual political gain. Why are you all so surprised??? This is how psychopathic warlords behave. To Blair, we are ALL dispensible foot soldiers, our lives to be thoughtlessly expended whenever it seems to him that our deaths will be to his benefit.

Why are some leaders on this Earth so totally and absolutely evil??? We just don't know, but not knowing does NOT deny the existance of such monsters. Our history is littered with them, most of whom came to power in ways that do not differ significantly from Blair. Remember, history has the advantage of looking back, so its view is clear. However, in their time, each of those monsters were judged just like Blair, with their supporters unbelieving until TOO LATE that their leader could be that wicked. This despite proof after proof of their sickening intent.

Now Blair has promised mass arrests of muslims in the UK (he may have to carry out more FALSE-FLAG operations of the Basra variety first to get the new terror laws passed), its time for people to finally remove the blinkers. All hell is about to be let loose, and when that happens, Blair will give the greater part of the public plenty of actual reasons to be scared, resentful, and angry towards any group he wishes to target

It'll happen fast, it'll happen hard, and interestingly many of you anti-Blair people here will become pro-Blair for exactly the same reason that wavering Germans switched their support TO Hitler when Hitler ramped up his insane activities. WHY? Because humans under extreme pressure will often switch to the easiest mental position, no matter how immoral. You will convince yourselves that it no longer matters how wicked Blair is clearly revealed to be- you will support him because you will be too terrified to hold an opposing position, and face the true horror of what that implies! Of course, once a person decides to do a thing, it is in their human nature to say to themselves that doing it makes it RIGHT.

Over and over, people ask themselves how the citizens of Germany could have so blindly supported Hitler. "BLIND", exactly, they had to make themselves morally blind in order to survive the horror of their situation, and in making themselves morally blind, there was no impediment to them giving their support to Hitler. And once they gave Hitler their support, they had to self justify.

In other words, from now on, the more clearly Blair prepares for an Earth-ending conflict, the more support he will attract from people desperate to NOT consider the fate that such a conflict will bring. A paradox, a vicious-circle, an engine for every kind of atrocity across the globe.

This letter was sent to the CBC (www.cbc.ca) regarding their ... interesting ommissions in the story from Basra, on their nightly program "The National". From what I've seen, I'm sure the scene is much the same in Britain ...

Hi there,

Although you introduced your story on the Basra scandal by making reference to "accusations on both sides", you seem to have forgotten to carry the accusations of the Iraqis, the people who did NOT intentionally LIE in order to feign a justification for a war thgey understood to be illegal. What happened to the part about the SAS men allegedly planting bombs, in order to foment civil war, which comes from the Iraqis? That IS, after all, the story here.

What about the explosives found in their vehicle, complete with remote detonators? You mentioned weapons, but seem to have ignored that part.

What you ran tonight was simply irresponsible and biased.

I sent you - twice - information leaked from official UK documents at the same time as the Downing Street Minutes were released (Iraq: Options Paper - March 8, 2002, UK Overseas & Defense Secretariat Cabinet Office), which proves that the US/UK were planning 'Divide & Rule', that old Colonial Trick, before the war even began.

Why was this deemed irrelevant to this story? Was it because you were too busy regurgitating the cover story of the people who said that Saddam could attack the UK with nukes in 45 minutes?

And your coverage of the story about the irrelevant CCTV videos from the London Underground, conveniently released to distract from this Covert Operation, was simply shameful. The Bliar Government has yet to produce evidence to support their Conspiracy Theory about 7/7. Why did you choose to identify those men as bombers, as opposed to ALLEGED bombers, as is appropriate?

You might get something out of this, as it highlights the behaviour of the media:

British Special Forces Caught Carrying Out Staged Terror In Iraq?
Media blackout shadows why black op soldiers were arrested
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/200905stagedterror.htm

As always,

Jordan Thornton

Who's Blowing up Iraq?
by Mike Whitney
 http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_whi_050920_who_s_blowing_up_ira.htm

Why Basra is in revolt against occupation

“What our police found in their car was very disturbing — weapons, explosives and a remote control detonator,” Sheikh Hassan said. “These are the weapons of terrorists. We believe these soldiers were planning an attack on a market or other civilian targets, and thanks be to god they were stopped and countless lives were saved.”

 http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=7426

... a full on assult on the BBC.

They are not that inaccessable yet, nor are they so innurred in the filth of the NWO that they wont - occassionally - run a story that shines a little light on the murky scum.

Alright, so they completly spun yesterdays 'big story'. They had to. To do anything else would have revealed something to the public that they are only dimly aware of at the moment. The point is, that our 'big story' was - and probably still is - very close to breaking.

I beleive that, with enough pressure, the BBC will have to at the least show this false flag operation for what it is.

Get on the email, the phones, the letters - go there in person. Find out the names of the receptionists, their boss, the journalists, the editors, their bosses ... pester them relentlessly.

In the meanwhile though, Twilight you are a star. I am enjoying very much your words and analysis. You must be doing something right, because I am noticing how quickly, how increasingly visciously the trolls leap upon you. I look forward to your next delivery.

This game[sic] is gathering momentum ... one of their little phrases is: order out of chaos. This is a dangerous game. At any point it may produce - with our help - the wrong kind of chaos for them ... AT ANY POINT!

Do not indulge in despair, think positivly, abandon fear, love life ... all these things strengthen our hand.

Gonna be a very big demo I hope ... perhaps not so polite this time ...

To the poster above,its not that this anus twilight is wrong in his analysis its just his flowery rhetoric and illusion's of literary grandeur make him out to be a tit.Why cant lefty theoretician's tone down on the pompous cack.Is it a case of being the "new intellectual elite".

"Get on the email, the phones, the letters - go there in person. Find out the names of the receptionists, their boss, the journalists, the editors, their bosses ... pester them relentlessly."

I can see it now:

"Hello! I'm a crazy loony with no evidence at all. How dare you broadcast a story I don't like"

"Thank you Mister Loony. We'll take the matter under advisement"

Click!

Accomplished= nothing.

This must be the same lying BBC that exposed Blair's lies on WMD... Does that mean now that there really are WMDs in Iraq???

Get a grip!

...is twilight?
suddenly new names are posting comments on most if not all indymedia news items, and at the same time we have lost some names who were equally regular commenters before...
realist? magoo? where are you now?
or had your persistent support of the current regime become too obviously paid (or mad) to usefully maintain any longer, and are your instructions now to veer too far in the opposite direction, messing with our heads with a different mix of perceptiveness and extremism?
just...

Although I very much agree with jackslucid and would surely sign up for his proposed the assault of the BBC
yes John Reid was spouting a load of old bollox in the early BBC reports and it looked as though the foriegn offices version was going to fall flat on it's face but some how they kept changing the subject and the BBC
head line readers just read what they were handed.
in fact one of the big problems with the BBC is the news and the news readers the in depth programmes are not very deep and often come yonks after the event.
But, the world service is much better and i was driving through Germany the day before yesterday evening and they had a very good programme which went right into detail.
The brits were using the fact that their SAS guys had been handed over to a Militia as the excuse to go in and get them out. Over and over again they played some top squaddie who was saying that when he had heard the two men had been handed over the the Militia's he was convinced that their lives were in danger.
But A) the men were not being held in some terrorists cave up in the mountains they were in a police station and B) the expert on iraq explained that since the end of the invasions the british had relied upon local police forces that were recruited by political parties and militias and had been warned that this policy was likely to cause them problems in the future by a number of well informed observers.
In effect the police forces in Basra are so called militias run by political parties.
So what exactly were those guys doing all the bollox spouted by squadies and british government and repeated by corporate media lackies is designed to keep us away from the truth.

I suppose it will all get washed down the plug hole surprised by the amount of squaddie type postings on IMC UK

magoo never left. just went covert

:-)

Yeah driven you tell em! (ex)Squaddies can't be anarchists no matter how many organic vegetables they grow, coz they is all fick fashos innit! Sept the squaddies "of colour" who are okay coz they is bruvvas oh and the wimmin coz they is all lezbos who is cool innit. And squaddies can't have enyfin relevant to say bout a defence story innit. All they know is fasho stuff and boozing innit.

Hey, welcome to the real world where stereotypes don't actually exist mate! Can you handle it?

Thought not.. now, I'll hand you back over to '3 minutes Hate'.

Oh, it just occurs to me. Perhaps, you are suggesting the fact that the squaddies should shut up and let Rank do all the clever stuff??? <-joke.

____

P.S. It's funny how it was only on the crackpot conspiracy threads that magoo got accused of spamming and trolling... could it be that the accusers only ever come to IMC to spam their loony toons and then troll any dissent. How's that for a CT?

when I refer to squaddies I am talking about the officer posh types that one would expect to get interviewed on the BBC as for stereo types I am not adverse to two channels but why limit yourself to two channels with all the advances digital recording has has brought us.
I didn't think that magoo was a conspiracy theorist in fact quite the exact opposite possibly an ex squaddie and i mean the square bashing variety.
I once had a job cutting th grass on the biggest RAF air base in the world(at the time) we the civvies had one or two altercations with the "rooks" I believe they were called, wasn't over impressed. neither with the security at the base itself or or excercise excercise and the plastic missiles that were not falling anyone including the russians.
Bliar and his neo labour government has proved that, Woman,Black, lesbian, gay Blind and anyone else you would care to mention can be arseholes / scum so i don't like to generalise and don't trust anyone.
apart from margoo I can remember a long list of lost souls attaching themselves to IMC UK Harlequin and Daniel were there from the off if I remember rightly. having spent lost of my life travelling the world and having been to more places than not i think i have a pretty good idea of what is going on and who is pulling the strings
your included matey

Aplogies then. I got the wrong end of the stick and went off on one. Easy to do with all the hysterical drivel that gets generated on these threads.

The magoo was meant to be addressing "wondering...." Bu I failed to make that clear. God only knows who Twilight is, but I don't ever want to be on his medication.

>> magoo never left. just went covert


and is mostly called Mr Lustbather now, oh yes.

If the U.S. want to invade Iran and Syria, could they use a civil war between Shia and Sunni in Iraq to play them off against one another?

Maybe if they can we in the West will escape a nuclear 9/11

Something for the ironists to celebrate eh!!

Leave it out hahahaha! I'm neither Twilight or Lustbather! I do have some sense of dignity and morals! And playing Young Tory and Rabid Militiaman are not my style.

Oh, well back to glueing on moustaches and wearing trenchcoats...

yes there is a lot of drivel, makes me think that IMC is frequented by a bunch of old vicars / Womans institute .
the twitterings of twilight makes me think that the twat has not been taking his/ her medication from time.
In between time i was in Rome could help noting large obelix's next to all the big churches. why it must be a conspiracy theory !!! i should co co