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I am sick of the anti-semitism, anti-islamism, and racism on this website

American Anarchist | 15.09.2005 22:33

I am sick of the anti-semitism, anti-islamism, and racism on this website.

As an American, I am disgusted by the amount of anti-semitism and anti-islamism found on this website. I am even more disgusted by the fact that I do not hear people denouncing the Anti-Semitism and Ant-Islam and racist comments.

American Anarchist

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Dear American

15.09.2005 23:12

It goes in waves really, and is often linked to the news agenda.

The IndyMedia UK guidelines are pretty clear on this - such content should be hidden. It's there very clearly in plain language, a strong statement:
 https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/editorial.html

But look at many indymedia websites and you will find similar content being posted to the open newswires - that's one of the drawbacks to such an open system allowing anyone to post.

It's also one way people who wish to rubbish indymedia - to try and damage it - use to try and discredit it. - ie posting racist crap.

I don't think you can have looked very closely at the newswire, because if you had you would have noticed that people who contribute to indymedia do refute and argue against racist crap and often when it's pointed out will hide it according to the clear guidelines. Sure indymedia is a voluntary participative project and no one here is paid to work 9-5 on it, and that means that sometimes instances of such racist rubbish are missed. That's why people are often asked to email IndyMedia if they see such content.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you mean by "As an american" - if you look at the US indymedia websites you'll see similar issues. In fact look at most indymedia websites and you'll see similar.

Yeah it's a pain in the ass, but people put a lot of time and effort trying to hide that crap.

Pete


if you dont like it

15.09.2005 23:14

if you dont like what you read well dont read it
stupid fucking americans

FUCK YOU YANK


easy

15.09.2005 23:43

Dear Mr American Anarchist

People are angry, and any extreme comments are often expressed in the heat of the moment. As for anti-islamism and racism I am slightly puzzled as to where you are coming from. Please cite examples

peace


Mickey Mouse... Feck Off!!!

15.09.2005 23:53

Why do we get treated to the 'as an american' prefix like you are something special. I think we all get just a little bit fucked off with hearing about 'the american' point of view.

What about, 'as a human being' just for a change, a little humility might go a long way towards your POV being taken seriously rather than forcing your cultural imperialism down our throats YET A FUCKING GAIN!!!

Nylons & Gum


Oh dreary me another ignorant bleeding heart.

16.09.2005 00:51

Freedom of speech me old suck hole, is what your saying is wrong with this site, we are also anti American not just Anti Israel or anti muslim.

The problem is, your responce appears to be prompted by the action of individuals, while their action so clearly was'nt against individuals. They were attacking an assumed evil

It’s a group thing against Authorities, In an attack against Israel, pack mentality takes over and generalizations are applied to the extream, that is anti-Semitism, pure and simple.

However
Palestinians are Semites, so are Arab Jews, so your confusion (and theirs) arises because you are unwilling to accept that Israel is an European colony inhabited by a mixed bag of mongrels of Anglo's or northern Europeans (Your own breed) that Europe deported, found a home for, encouraged to leave, long ago, who established themselves in Israel long after the Jew componant of any racial baxckground was bred out of them.

Therefore vilifycation is on religous grounds, only as there is an absence of a race in the issue.

Israel is therefore the target of spite because it is evil, inhabited by paracites and needs to be destroyed, however Jews are quite welcome to live in my street, after their exile, as they are as individuals quite nice people.

Simon Willace
mail e-mail: simonwillace@hotmail.com


American Anarchist

16.09.2005 07:42

I haven't seen any recent anti-semitic posting. It seems a very knee-jerk American reaction to equate condemnation of the war crimes and attrocities of Israel as racism- are you really suggesting that all Jews endorse Israel??? It isn't. I wouldn't even class the idiots who continually post rubbish about Mossad being behind Al Qeada as racists.

Neither of the positions above is generalising Jews. There is a massive difference between hating Jews and hating human rights abuses.

Do I also detect another very simplistic US tendency: "You are either with us or against us!"; namely, the assertion that if we are against the crimes of Israel we must think that terrorism is great? Again, false.

What I HAVE seen are a few recent posts that seem to deliberately wish to rubbish any notion of Palestine having any reasonable greivances against Israel. which is fair enough for people to argue... so long as they don't mind the inevtiable onslaught of incredulity they are predictably going to illicit in this venue. But do us all a favour. Don't post this stuff and start asking for censorship when people tear it up and throw it back at you.

As for posting editorial issues in the newswire, may I draw your attention to:  https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/editorial.html

Magoo