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So who is Mark Whitby?

brian | 19.08.2005 06:21

this is the fellow who told the media that Menezes wore a thick coat....when in fact he was wearing a blue denim jacket

'WHAT IS KNOWN: Earlier statements that Mr de Menezes was wearing a padded winter coat at the height of summer, thereby arousing police suspicions, continued to be repeated for several days even though he was, in fact, wearing a denim jacket.

The original suggestion that he was wearing a heavy fleece seems to have come from a witness on the train, Mark Whitby, but the Met never corrected this.
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/18/nmenez118.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/08/18/ixnewstop.html


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Now why would the police depend on him, when they KNEW Menezes was wearing a denim jacket?

Whitby and the police should be cross -examined to see why they lied and allowed this lie to be in the press for days.

brian

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Dan Copeland

19.08.2005 08:59

Eyewitness Dan Copeland said the man was wering a black baseball cap and a blue fleece.

Gazubal

Cross examining who ?

19.08.2005 11:13

There is no official version of the police. They haven't confirmed wheter the leaked photograph is genuine or not.

Gazubal

Transcript of Dan Copeland account

19.08.2005 13:30

"Dan Copeland was sitting on the train at Stockwell tube station when a man was shot by armed police on 22 July.

He describes how he saw the man jump on board the train and grab the person sitting opposite him :

"...Basically we just pulled into Stockwell and I sat with my bag towards the platform. We were sitting on the platform for about three or four minutes and then we heard a lot of shouting coming from the (concourse ?). Everybody on the train was looking around to see what was going on and then a guy jumped through the door in my right and grabbed the pole and a person sitting directly opposite to me. And then there was an uniform, no, not an uniform, sorry, an undercover police officer who came through the door on the left and shouted for everybody to get out and clear the train. And as I turned to kind of run towards the door that he was standing in, I heard sort of four dull bangs, so I didn't actually see the man being shot. I think it was pretty obvious that shots were fired. He wasn't carrying a bag. He was wearing a black baseball cap, a blue fleece and (bagasse ?). It didn't seem to be that many undercover police officers there. I mean, I think they were about four or five.

Q : Some eyewitnesses have described him as a man of Asian appearance. Can you describe the man that you saw ?

Well he certainly had dark skin. I didn't really see his face. He jumped on so quickly and as I say his back was turned towards the majority of passengers. I presume the only person that would have seen his face would be the guy that he grabbed..."

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706913.stm#

gazubal

London Police Services?

19.08.2005 20:12

Doesn't his name match that of a police forensic scientist?

Anyone?

The man who was grabbed

19.08.2005 20:14

might be Jean De Menezes.

gazubal

Anyone?

20.08.2005 11:20

Do you really think the cops would plant a fake witness (cop) using their own identity???

magoo

I suspect not a lie, but mistake.

22.08.2005 11:05

It puzzled me how Mark Whitby could have got it so wrong. But reading the leaked information and matching with what Mark Whitby said he saw, I suspect that the man he though was the victim, was actually a policeman/security man, and the guy he grabbed was actually the victim. This would explain why the discrepancy in describing the clothing.

Tigger