backlash against surveillance cameras
Surveillance Camera Players | 27.07.2005 03:03 | Technology
Surveillance cameras in public places:
Let the backlash against them begin!
For years, we have been pointing out the obvious: despite the sales pitch, surveillance cameras installed in public places do not prevent or "deter" criminal activity or terrorism. If they are useful for anything -- that is, anything other than racial profiling, sexual voyeurism, harassment of political dissidents, reinforcing conformism, et al. -- surveillance cameras provide sometimes clear, sometimes blurry pictures of the crime after it is too late to do anything about it. On 13 September 2001, we made this simple point with respect to the attacks on the World Trade Center; and on 9 May 2005, we made this point with respect to the still unsolved bombing of the British Consulate.
But these events took place in New York City, which has comparably few surveillance cameras operated by the police ("only" 5,000 or so). And so our point could easily be dismissed. With the bombing of four locations on 7 July 2005 in London, which is commonly known one of the most heavily surveilled cities in the world, the unfortunate accuracy of our assertion was once again demonstrated: despite the presence of approximately 500,000 surveillance cameras in that city, most of them installed in the wake of the IRA bombinmgs of the early 1990s, four completely undeterred terrorists set off bombs that killed over 50 people and wounded 700 more. The Emperor is wearing no clothes and now a lot of people see his nakedness.
From The Financial Times, 21 July 2005:
"These cameras are pigs in the poke. They do not prevent crime," said Johnny Barnes, executive director of the DC branch of the American Civil Liberties Union. "The point is, does it make sense to spend 20 per cent of your [security] budget, as they did in London, that didn't help those poor souls . . . that died. When measured against this tremendous invasion of privacy, it just isn't worth it in our view."
"I don't think it [the presence of surveillance cameras] really matters," said Christa Faern, a DC commuter who travels by rail every day to work. "[The terrorists are] just going to find a way around it anyway."
From a report by the Associated Press, 23 July 2005:
Security experts say that technology hasn't yet caught up with hopes for the equipment, however. They point out that despite London's huge network of cameras, the bombings weren't prevented. In those two cases, the cameras have only helped in the investigations. One significant weakness is that the images caught by camera can't automatically link to a list of known terrorist suspects -- not that that would have helped in London, as men identified as bombers weren't on any watch lists.
"I haven't heard of anything being successful that allows us to prevent something by flashing up on a screen somewhere a positive identification of someone on a terrorist database," said Jack Lichtenstein with ASIS International, a Washington-based organization of security officials. Still, "that's where we're headed," he said.
Privacy advocates say the London bombings should persuade policymakers to stay away from surveillance rather than invest in it. It doesn't prevent terrorism, and at best only encourages terrorists to shift their target, they argue.
"Let's say we put cameras on all the subways in New York City, and terrorists bomb movie theaters instead. Then it's a total waste of money," said Bruce Schneier, author of Beyond Fear: Thinking Sensibly about Security in an Uncertain World.
From The Australian Broadcasting Corporation, 24 July 2005:
Federal Opposition Leader Kim Beazley says surveillance cameras will not help to stop a terrorist attack in Australia, and more needs to be done to improve aviation, maritime and railway security [...] "It's very good at giving police an opportunity to trace things after an attack has occurred, and it's to be welcomed for that," he said. "But the point is to the stop the attack happening."
From another report the Australian Brodacssting Company, 26 July 2005:
Barrister Jennifer Saunders doubts their value. "It may assist later in collection of evidence but I don't see how it assists in advance in preventing anything," she said.
And yet what do we hear coming from our police chiefs and politicians? Calls for even more cameras. We say no: this is irrational. If we truly want to protect ourselves from terrorists who are murderously enraged with the policies of our government -- with the occupation of Iraq, the occupation of Afghanistan, and/or support for the occupation of the Palestinian territories -- then we should pull "our" troops and support out of these countries immediately.
As for the surveillance cameras and the claims of those who favor them: let the backlash begin! We say: no more new ones; take down the ones already installed.
-- Surveillance Camera Players, 26 July 2005
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The other side of the coin
27.07.2005 08:11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4708107.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4679271.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4664315.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4665545.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/4657039.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4654853.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4649937.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4639233.stm
the list is endless.
So how are you going to feel if you disable a camera and someone gets assaulted, raped or murdered?
But what do I know, I'm just a "troll"
magoo
In my best Columbo accent...
27.07.2005 08:14
Det. Magoo
I agree with Magoo!
27.07.2005 09:11
rebound
Me too!
27.07.2005 09:36
Megatron
Babies
27.07.2005 10:13
p.s When you're off-duty, can I touch your taser?
Florrie
above comments
27.07.2005 10:20
The depth of your arguments is outstanding, your contribution to constructive debate breathtaking, and the speed which you comment on so many stories on Indymedia is impressive.
I only hope your understanding of irony is equally formidable - I'm sure that you will see the importance of replying to my message, and assessing how transparent and flimsy is my attempt to draw a line under your comments to allow for information, debate, and, here's hoping, action rather than words.
bridge (with no trolls underneath)
Dumbass Mofo
27.07.2005 16:40
On this subject I'm afraid I disagree with Magoo. If you want to protect your own property with surveillence cameras so be it. Police and security cameras have no discernable measured effect on crime and have not proven their worth or justified their cost since their introduction. Yes they sometimes assist in prosecution after the event but our surveillence culture is one of my main problems and areas of investigation within these modern times. Crime has not been reduced since the ubiquitous electronic eye invaded our collective privacy. I'm sure Magoo is aware of this and merely playing devils advocate as usual.
Two short term solutions, lazer pens and paintball rounds.
I found this thesis by Dr David Wood on surveillence cuture an education and recommend it to all of you, although it is slightly off subject I feel it relates to the ever growing camera threat.
http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/d.f.j.wood/
Does anyone else feel that Dunblane was used as an excuse to get cameras into primary schools as a way of conditioning children to accept being watched constantly as normal?
Megatron, leader of the decepticons
*blush*
27.07.2005 17:37
Pfff. Come the revolution they won't be short of canon fodder...
dunce cap magoo
...
27.07.2005 17:44
You are right the effect is hard to argue. I was just merely pointing out that there is plenty of evidence in it helping prosecutions...
As for misuse. I may be niave but are there any examples of it being misused? A genuine question!
Blair's new campaign message "Tough on criminals and doing sod all about the causes of crime... but my mates are raking it in!"
magoo
Magoo, me' lud ..
27.07.2005 22:58
What's your 'number'? Sir?
I'm a good citizen Sir, honest I am.
Magoo
Terrified!!
rubbish
04.01.2006 20:38
i have nothing to hid at all. so if i get caught on cctv anywhwere, so what. big deal. i have nothing to hide and we have to protect people. id cards arean excellent idea. i would have one 2mrw.
so all you privacy freaks just back off and get in the real world. crime is here , its growing and it could be you who is affected by it soon.
Andy
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