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Mainstream Reports "Suicide Theory" Difficult to Swallow

InfoWars | 20.07.2005 21:41

Regardless of what happened, the Bush/PNAC/Bliar Propaganda is failing, because half the people link the bombings to Phony's decision to invade Iraq, in full violation of International Law, and the other half recognize the pattern and inconsistency of these False Flags.

Mainstream Media Reports "Suicide Theory" Difficult to Swallow

Infowars.com | July 19, 2005

Here are several mainstream newspapers that are now saying what we've been saying all along: It simply doesn't add up that a group of otherwise normal and quiet individuals with families and children would blow themselves up as part of a terrorist attack.

These patsies didn't have any real motive. Who had the motive? Who benefited from the attack? Tryannical governments everywhere, most especially in the UK and the US, where these events have increased support for Blair and Bush and greased the skids for more intense "anti-terror" legislation.

Its very exciting to see mainstream publications not buying into the propaganda. Never before have so many people witnessed a government-backed terrorist attack and immediately seen through it. The results of the bombings have not been what the Globalists expected. People are awake or waking. They refuse to swallow the lie and its forcing the real perpitrators of this atrocity to change their story.
 http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/mainstream_media_doubts_suicide_bombers.htm

British gov't protests at Iran claims over London bombings

Tue Jul 19,10:42 AM ET

LONDON (AFP) - Britain protested furiously to
Iran over comments by a leading Iranian politician that the London bombings might have been deliberately carried out by the British government.
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/britainattacksiran;_ylt=Aha4auf_GM6q5wPMB2Bj6fkDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

I'd say the "insulting and ridiculous" allegations were the ones being leveled at the public by this very Government about Iraq, which caused the deaths of over a hundred thousand innocent people in an illegal Act of Aggression.

The ones these same LIARS are using to attempt to justify further Aggression against Iran, many of which have already been exposed as deliberate LIES, are a close second.

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Why I think you're wrong...

21.07.2005 01:01

Firstly, you say: "It simply doesn't add up that a group of otherwise normal and quiet individuals with families and children would blow themselves up as part of a terrorist attack."
Well, it happens in Israel/Palestine all the time.

Then: just because they weren't suicide bombers doesn't mean it wasn't a "real" terrorist attack. It is highly likely that the bombers thought they could get away, not knowing that the bombs were rigged to explode. They may even not have known that they were carrying (real) bombs.

Also, think about it? What does Blair really have to gain from this? The day before he could bask in the glory of London's successful Olympic bid, while enjoying the prestige of leading the EU as its president, with a somehwat impotent France and Germany. He was set to be the G8 champion with his "mate" Brown, getting other countries to sign up to increased debt relief and aid, while Bono and Geldof sung his and Bush's praises. 60th anniversary VE day was just around the corner with all of its patriotic whoomph...and then what?

London bombs, everyone forgets Olympics/EU presidency/G8/matey rock stars, etc., and Iraq and the failed "War on Terror" is back on the agenda. What looked like a nice series of "positive" events to create the legacy he craves is turned, Cinderella-like, into the bad old days of "Bliar" and blunder, with his credibility back in doubt again.

Seriously, he has much more to lose through this than gain.

artaud


well...

21.07.2005 09:56

there are seven years ahead to bask in olympia, the truth about 'debt relief' and action on climate at G8 is not really very good and that would have come out if there'd been space in the papers, the national dna database and id card thing was not looking good, there was a risk that thr EU wouldn't take on UK proposals for new security measures, oh let's pass yet another round of repressive anti terra laws blah... blah blah...
meanwhile according to private eye there was a 'sigh of relief' in the nastier parts of Washington DC when 'our' bombs blew, at last they could refocus the US corporate on what really matters for the bush crew - the war on terra - and as we all know (by now, don't we?) what really matters for the bush baby is what has to matter most for our tiny blur...

wondering


Conspiracy, conspiracy...

21.07.2005 11:33

Of course there's still seven years to the Olympics, but that doesn't negate the fact that the major political impact of the "feel good" factor comes when the decision is announced and when the games take place. The bombs did detract from that.

"The truth about 'debt relief' and action on climate at G8 is not really very good and that would have come out if there'd been space in the papers". Most papers had explicitly supported MPH so are hardly likely to turn round and say their efforts were a failure. Seems you're putting a lot too much faith in our corporate media. If anything, the bombs detracted from the likely stories on front pages of papers full of quotes from Bono and Geldof about how Blair and Brown (and the tabloids who supported the G8) have "saved Africa" and "rescued millions". Did you honestly expect to wake up after the G8 to the likes of "The Sun" proclaiming how its been a failure?

Interesting that you mention Private Eye as their most recent issue had a section attacking various conspiracy theories surrounding the attack (e.g. Netanyahu had advance warning, Canary Wharf shooting etc).

Anyway, to construct and argument solely around "who benefits" is pretty ridiculous. Yeah, if someone doesn't stand to benefit from something they tend not to do it, but that doesn't mean that they always necessarily end up benefitting from it (people or institutions can get things wrong) or that the person or group who benefits most is necessarily the person who was behind it. It's also quite clear that there is a "logic" behind suicide bombings as well and that there are people who think there is a benefit behind them.

Besides a continual focus on conspiracy theories (not that you personally necessarily do this) that the state are behind is a relatively depressing view of the world. If the State is behind everything, ensures everything goes to plan and no-one ever can challenge it then how do we ever effect meaningful (non-terroristic) change?

Leam


It would seem that way . . .

21.07.2005 13:49

Still trying to work out this site

Quote "Besides a continual focus on conspiracy theories (not that you personally necessarily do this) that the state are behind is a relatively depressing view of the world. If the State is behind everything, ensures everything goes to plan and no-one ever can challenge it then how do we ever effect meaningful (non-terroristic) change?"

After witnessing the G8 and police-style-state clamp-down on protestors in Edinburgh and Gleneagles the answer to "how do we ever effect meaningful (non-terroristic) change" is simple . . . we don't (the powers that be won't let us), and if we try to peacefully, we WILL be stopped by state forcefully.

In shame . . .

picti


private eye....

21.07.2005 17:56

managed to pick on the most easily demolished theories and completedly neglected the most popular and (to me, if true) unnerving 'alt theory' i've seen about, that is the story about the alleged 'exercise' being run on the underground same day same stations etc, as allegedly reported by someone from a company called 'visor' on radio 5 live.
now I've no axe to grind in any direction but I've read private eye a lot longer than I have indymedia, and I know the way they report, pointing and gloating at anyone who fucks up except those who really hold shit together for the bulk of elite in this country and so when they miss something out I tend to pay it more attention.
but that's just me.
I also have an aversion to the use of the term 'consipiracy' as if anything it refers to is by definition ridiculous. cos some group sure did conspire to bomb london, just like some group of people conspire to create indymedia, the daily mail, the UK government, and my dinner tonight. but the term isn't used for these plots, only for plots which either are, or someone using the term from an influential position would like us to think are - ridiculous. now why would that be?

still wondering


Official Story IS A Conspiracy Theory

21.07.2005 18:02

Sorry, but the Burden of Proof is upon these proven LIARS to support their Theory. Hell, they haven't even done this with 911 yet.

The sanctimonious expressions of outrage expressed by War Criminals Bliar and Bush fall a bit flat, due to their slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

Phony 'Al-Qaeda' Responsibility Claim a Proven Hoax

Prison Planet | July 8 2005

With regard to the so-called claim of responsibility for the London bombings from an unknown Al-Qaeda group which the British government is treating as 'serious,' MSNBC reported,

MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.

"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said.

Furthermore, the website posting doesn't even claim personal responsibility, it simply references "the heroic mujahedeen" in the third person. The posting praises the attack, it doesn't even take responsibility for it.

These facts didn't stop countless newspapers and Neo-Con websites automatically assuming Al-Qaeda (or Al-CIAda) was behind the attack.
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/0807 05provenhoax.htm

Netanyahu Changed Plans Due to Warning

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press Writer Thu Jul 7, 7:14 AM ET

JERUSALEM - British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea /israel_britain_explosions_1

These would have had to be fairly specific warnings, if they were enough to change these plans.

See No Evil: Spinning Netanyahu's London Terror Tip-off

The willful blindness of Israel's partisans is running smack up against a widely-circulated report in the mainstream media that Israel's Finance Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was tipped off to the London terrorist attacks.
 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/index.php?id=P2205

The Phony (Mossad) Al Qaeda Cell in Palestine
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html

Questions grow on London bombing
 http://www.simplyappalling.blogspot.com/#112083238 456427558

All these websites trace to Everyone's Internet in Houston, Texas --- EV1 has been hosting al-Qaeda for years. It's time someone asked why.

In a thread last year (now closed), soren asked: "Robert Marsh and EV1 -- have you no shame?"

Quote:
Robert Marsh answered:
"There is more to it than meets the public eye. That's all I have to say."

Perhaps those "law enforcement" officials who claim to be connected with the U.S. Customs Dept. might not be really LEOs at all -- instead they could be traitors that have been paid-off with some Saudi's petro-dollars to sell out America. By keeping those websites online and forcing ISPs to host the sites the effect is the same.

 http://globalresearch.ca.myforums.net/viewtopic.ph p?p=10067

Why Al Qaeda Is Probably Not Behind The London Attacks - JUS
 http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/56252

Al-Qaeda is a US/Israeli Intelligence Asset
 http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-11-04/discussi on.cgi.28.html

Britain Explosions Surveillance
 http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3567886

AL QAEDA WEBSITE TRACKS BACK TO ... MARYLAND???

Submitted by a reader.

From:  http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/06/24/bin laden.video/

"These statements and others from al Qaeda have been appearing from time to time on a Web site called www.alneda.com.

"In recent months, the site, which experts suspect is closely linked to al Qaeda, also has posted manifestos signed "al Qaeda jihad" in which it says bin Laden is alive and well and preparing future attacks against the United States.

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Interesting "link" to al-Qaeda, as revealed by whois data for alneda.com:

alneda.com

Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI
Contact: +91.2256797500
Website:  http://www.directi.com
Domain Name: ALNEDA.COM

Registrant:
SFP, Inc
Jon David ( jondavid@4jon.com)
Po 312
Berlin
Maryland,21811
US
Tel. +011.4107237089

Creation Date: 16-Jul-2002
Expiration Date: 16-Jul-2013
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/alqmaryland.html

Explanation of al neda, based out of Maryland.
 http://cryptome.org/alneda-wet.htm

False flag over London

By John Leonard
Online Journal Contributing Writer

July 8, 2005—Yesterday we saw a classic false flag attack in London, organized by western secret services to distract attention from the deepening political troubles of Bush and Blair, and perhaps even to create the pretext for war on Iran. Of course, Bush and his poll ratings have been sinking under scandals and rumblings of impeachment. Blair too has been badly hurt by the Downing Street memo.
 http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/070805Leon ard/070805leonard.html

Police hunt 'mercenary' terror gang recruited by al-Qa'ida
 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2981 05.ece

I guess the culprits identified by eyewitnesses were not the right colour to fit the prevailing Conspiracy Theory put forth by the LIARS and killers anxious to use these attacks as an excuse for further aggression.

Here's an antidote to the sanctimonious, hypocritical statements made by the LIARS and killers.

Lest We Forget; These Were Blair's Bombs
By John Pilger
 http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071005X.shtml

The warning to Netanyahu blew the cover off the London bombings. Now, Mr, Cohen tries to get the frame-up pointed back in the intended direction again.

Note that his article is based upon Myth, not fact, such as the fake "bin Laden tapes", strategically released to help Bush.

It is interesting to note who still supports this Neo-Fascist Aggression, and this agenda of death. In doing so, people such as this authour hang themselves, and the people they work for.

Face up to the truth
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/comment/s tory/0,16141,1525261,00.html

Blair rejects calls for probe into bombings
By James Blitz, Political Editor, and Jimmy Burns
Published: July 10 2005 20:55 | Last updated: July 10 2005 20:55

London attacksTony Blair will on Monday reject Conservative demands for a government inquiry into last week's London bomb attacks, insisting such a move would distract from the task of catching the perpetrators.

As police and security services on Sunday continued searching for the bombers - thought to be Islamist terrorists - Downing Street said the prime minister believed an inquiry now into the outrage which killed at least 49 people would be a "ludicrous diversion."

Instead, in a statement to the Commons on Monday following last week's Group of Eight summit, Mr Blair is expected to focus on the direction the government must take to ensure future terrorism is defeated.

In particular, the prime minister believes there must be far greater co-operation among European Union governments in the fight against terrorism - a view Charles Clarke, the home secretary, is expected to drive home at an emergency meeting of EU interior ministers this week.

He is expected to tell his counterparts governments must ensure operators keep data on telephone and internet exchanges for up to a year.

He also indicated on Sunday that he would consider granting further "control orders" if he thought they were necessary.

Mr Clarke said he was "very optimistic indeed" that last Thursday's bombers would be tracked down. But he feared further attacks could take place until that happened. "That is why the number one priority has to be the catching of the perpetrators."

Police continued to sift through the debris from Thursday's four explosions - three in the London Underground and one on a bus - and to examine witness accounts and intelligence as part of their hunt for the bombers.

But police chiefs indicated that had yet to establish the identity or the whereabouts of the terrorists they suspect belong to an extremist Islamist cell in sympathy with the aims of Al-Qaeda.

Tension several cities remained high over the weekend. Police said they had arrested, under prevention of terrorism laws, three British nationals on an inward flight at Heathrow early on Sunday but insisted that any link with last Thursday's bombings was speculative. The three were expected to be released later on Sunday night, according to police sources.

But the arrests, the dozens of bomb alerts in the English capital and an evacuation in the Birmingam city centre over the weekend reflect the nervousness of both police and the general public at the prospect that the bombers were still at large and capable of striking again.

The police also revealed that there had been a few cases of attacks on British Muslims in the wake of the bombings - including one in which an individual was "seriously injured."

The revelation came as some government officials expressed irritation that an article in a Sunday newspaper by Sir John Stevens, the former Metropolitan Police commissioner, might stir up racial tensions. He said the bombers were "almost certainly" British - with many more born and bred here willing to attack.

 http://news.ft.com/cms/s/8186face-f17a-11d9-9c3e-0 0000e2511c8.html

Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=853 46

Note how they stick to the official line that this is an attack by terrorists, even as evidence continues to mount of an inside job, with the bus cameras conveniently not working, military explosives, the desperate spin why they are looking for "white" perpetrators, and of course the warning to Netanyahu.

London Terror Tip-off: Timeline Refutes Israeli Denial
 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/index.php?id=P2206

The 7/7 London Papers:

THE LONDON ATTACKS

The recent bombings in London have prompted me to create a database of information from various news sites. This page will be used for that collection at the present time. I do not believe these attacks were at all what the mainstream media and government officials want us to believe they were.
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/londonarchive.ht ml

George and Tony Get their al-Qaeda Fix
Monday, July 11, 2005
By Greg Palast

The cruel, evil jerks who blew up the London subway last week, despite appropriating al-Qaeda's name for their website and T-shirts, have about as much to do with al-Qaeda as a Beatles tribute band has to do with the Fab Four.
 http://gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=443&row=0

Aid to the Enemy

The fact is that the self-styled “conservatives” have wickedly aided and abetted terrorism and terrorists, both here and abroad…
 http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2005/07/aid-to- enemy.html

"Consider the increased amounts of 'chatter,” from the administration about 9-11 over the past 3 weeks (absent from most Government speeches until quite recently). It would be fascinating to do a key word analysis of the use of the word 9-11 in U.S. government speeches in the 3 weeks leading up to the London attack, as opposed to the previous 12 months."

Now, this is interesting!

The Bushling did, in fact, make a speach in which he frequently harped on 9/11, with a frequency unusual even for him.

As support for these monsters erodes, and their LIES are exposed, I fear what else they have up their sleeves. RIP the Walking Dead?

Bush renews linking Iraq war to 9/11
 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05193/536589.stm

He got caught in a lie and nothing happened to him. Emboldened, he will now go on to greater and greater lies, because he knows you will do nothing about it.

Ricin: The plot that never was by Severin Carrell and Raymond Whitacker
news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=63 0187

The police in Leeds used military explosives during their raids on the homes in question, the same military explosives used in the London bombings, thus contaminating the scene.

How the Government Staged the London Bombings in Ten Easy Steps

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 13 2005

Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack

1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.

2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.

3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.

4) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.

5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.

6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.

If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.

7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.

8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.

9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.

BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".

"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."

Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.

10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.

And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.

Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/1307 05teneasysteps.htm


The birth of the London bomb Official Story

You can practically hear the click at that moment in the life of every conspiracy when the police investigation turns into the Official Story. At that point, the investigation is intended to 'fix the facts' to the Official Story, and the cover-up begins. The story of the London bombs has made this transformation within the last twenty-four hours. The authorities thought it was small bombs with timers or triggered by cell phones and almost certainly not a suicide bomb attack; now they claim with certainty that the bombs were accompanied by handlers, some or all of whom may have died in the blasts, possibly by accident and probably intentionally (which means they were suicide bombers, as it is extremely unlikely that all four made a mistake). The original story was that it was an international al Qaeda operation; now it is British Muslims. In just a day or two, everything has changed.
 http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/07/birth-of-lond on-bomb-official-story.html

Suicide bomber 'had all to live for'
 http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/165/1 65813_suicide_bomber_had_all_to_live_for.html

Bet this guy never thought that simply by taking Mass Transit that day, his memory would be so horribly destroyed.

More ands more the evidence indicates that the accused men are not the type to engage in acts of terror, especially acts in which they will knowingly die.

Suicide is an act of someone who thinks they have nothing to live for. That does not fit these individuals.

Yet even as the evidence stares them in the face the media will not wander from the mandated first assumption of guilt-without-proof. Even as Bliar refuses any probe into the attacks which deviates from this narrative, and bases its findings in an unbiased manner upon the evidence alone.

Meanwhile, I call your attention to the mention of Israeli security company ICTS further down. ICTS, it should be remembered, handled security at all the airports from which the 9-11 planes departed.

Does Anyone Really Believe This Horsesh*t?
British authorities finger patsies within days of bombings, country drinks it up, and it’s like Déjà vu all over again
 http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20 340

The London Explosions, the Rogue Network, Bush and Iran
 http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent7777/98254 2.html

Commissioner of London Transport is ex CIA!
 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/chief_officers.shtml

Bombing suspects' identities shock Leeds
 http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2 005/07/14/bombing_suspects_identities_shock_leeds/ ?page=2

There was an interesting rumor going around London just before the attacks, that someone was trying to hire Muslims to play terrorists for a terror drill, to try to sneak onto the trains and buses with fake bombs to test out the security.

We know the terror drill was real. We know they were running the drill at the exact same stations the bombings actually occurred.

We know that the accused bombers don't fit the profile of men ready to die for Allah. Indeed it is reported that some of them were not particularly religious.

And we are faced with the strange claim that these men, one of whom had a new family, carried bombs set on timers yet stood there waiting for the bombs to explode.

This makes sense ONLY if they thought they were carrying fake bombs as part of a terror drill. This also explains the nervousness of the man on the bus who had probably just heard of the real explosions and was starting to suspect that the fake bomb he was carrying might not be fake after all.

"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!"

The 'Birmingham Six' and British False Flags.
 http://www.innocent.org.uk/cases/birmingham6/

UK police confident of al-Qaeda link to bombs
 http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=2 4&art_id=qw1121418181371B226

What a strange story. Of course you can find a link if you try hard enough. What baffles is that the detectives don't say that they can find those responsible, according to the evidence, but that they will "find a link", as Bliar has refused any probe into the attacks which deviates from this narrative.

Yet more on the London bombs
 http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/07/yet-more-on-l ondon-bombs.html

CHANGING THE OFFICIAL STORY:
(Please see: "The 25 Tactics of Disinformation")

London bombs home-made from pharmacy ingredients
 http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1610072005

I'm sure the perpetrators hope that earlier reports about military explosives being used, as reported by initial investigators, will be pushed down the Memory Hole.

London, Bush and Mossad
 http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/ 15/london_bush_and_mossad.html

The sheer volume of Disinformation being churned out by the Israelis just damns them more than if they had said nothing.

I'm not "wild-eyed" at all, and the tale about Netanyahu Israel is attempting to push is contradicted by the timeline of events.

Methinks they protest too much!!


As with the alleged 9/11 "suicide hijackers" the families and friends of these young men are stunned and incredulous. There is nothing about these youths that fits with the "suicide bomber" profile. Security services could interpret the choice of innocents as clever planning by the masterminds who selected "ordinary young men...below the intelligence radar".

Much is made of the CCTV video tape of the four carrying large rucksacks before they were said to have boarded their respective trains. The tapes show them chatting and acting as though they were going on a hiking holiday. Was this just part of their ploy to move below the radar? Is it easy to appear nonchalant as you are about to blow yourselves and others to smithereens?

It is significant that this was a "suicide bombing" while the Madrid bombing was not (Even though the explosives in question were triggered by timing devices). Even so, the London Times reported that the alleged Madrid conspirators (who were all Government Informants) had met in a similar fashion before placing their bombs; after their bombs were placed they apparently got off the trains. Why? Why not a suicide mission? Or alternately, why couldn't these London lads place the charges and de-board?

The "suicide bomber" scenario works well to tell us who the bombers were. We all should know by now that only Muslims practice the suicide version of terrorism. To posit suicide in London obviates the need to investigate others. Remember the confusion in Madrid because Basque separatists were early suspects? If the bombers had blown themselves up on the trains no one would have suspected Basques; only Muslims commit suicide.

Why was Madrid handled differently? The simple answer is that the ubiquitous video cameras could not have picked up non-existent bombers, just like the video cameras at Logan, Newark and Dulles could not pick up non-existent hijackers.

The explosives in Madrid were not placed by passengers. The true perpetrators of these crimes learned from the Madrid experience and went back to their "suicide bomber" formula. This time they made sure to get "suicide bombers" (Arab victims) on camera, rucksacks and all. This alteration allows them to keep the advantage of the public preparation to identify only Muslims as suicide bombers. There will not be any uncomfortable questions about how explosives were placed or detonated.

The "Muslim suicide bomber" formula stops inquiry, stops thought, takes precedence in the public imagination over all objections. In the past four years the hundreds of inconsistencies and contrary pieces of evidence about 9/11 have not been able to remove the picture people have in their minds of Muslim hijackers flying planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.

The video of these four young men in London with their rucksacks will serve to end the public's interest in the questions of how, who, and why. No doubt the fact that a complete lack of video evidence, damning the 911 Official Theory, was noted by the perpetrators of this False Flag Attack.

But the skeptic might ask some questions here. Why did these "suicide bombers" seem so ordinary, so nonchalant before these awful deeds? Could it be that they were recruited as "extras" in the disaster exercises, and that their only purpose was to be seen in the video, meeting, and carrying their heavy rucksacks? And wouldn't their subsequent disappearance verify that what they carried in their sacks were those explosives that blew the trains, the bus and themselves to kingdom come?

ICTS Europe is an Israeli security company based in the Netherlands, a subsidiary of which is Huntleigh. Huntleigh was the security contractor at Logan Airport on 9/11 that failed to provide us with CCTV evidence of hijackers. The London Underground is one of Fortress GB's clients and according to their press release they provide smart card technology (personal details and biometric information) for contractors that operate in Tube stations. It makes me wonder if Peter Power's Visor Consultants were identified by these smart cards and if the four young men from Leeds were ever issued such ID.

Police suspect bombers tricked

BRITISH police are considering the possibility that the four key suspects in the July 7 London attacks might have been tricked into setting off their bombs, a British newspaper has reported.
 http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_pa ge/0,5936,15960660%255E954,00.html

"We do not have hard evidence that the men were suicide bombers," a Scotland Yard spokesman told The Sunday Telegraph. "It is possible that they did not intend to die."

According to the paper, one police hypothesis is that the bombers were tricked by a "master" who told them they would have time to escape – when in fact the devices were set to go off immediately.

The other hypothosis is that these men were hired to play the role of terrorists for the terror drill that was happening at the very same time and place the bombings happened, and didn't realize that the fake bombs they were given were real.

"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!"

Mossad Chief Confirms Netanyahu's Warning of London Bombing

The controversy continues over an Associated Press story detailing the remarks of a “senior Israeli official” who claimed that Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in London for an economic conference, was warned by Scotland Yard “minutes” in advance of the terrorist bombings. According to the original story, Netanyahu’s prior knowledge was the cause of his not showing up at the conference, which took place at a hotel near the Liverpool Underground station. A subsequent AP report contained the Israeli’s government’s denial of a prior warning, and claimed that Netanyahu received a warning after the blasts.

Although the first AP story was never retracted, that didn’t prevent Israel’s American amen corner from claiming that it had been withdrawn, nor did it stop Stratfor.com from coming out with an analysis claiming that Israel knew "days" in advance, and that it wasn’t Scotland Yard that informed Netanyahu. Former intelligence analyst Tommy Preston, of Preston Global, concurred.

My own column drawing on these sources drew fire, not only from the usual suspects, but also from dailykos.com, the Democratic party website spawned by the Dean campaign. “Antiwar.com is not a legitimate source,” declared one poster.

This from a website that headlined “Did BushCo Tip Off London Bombers?”!

An author who goes by the name "DHinMI" manufactured a quote, purportedly from me, that was nothing more than a crude fabrication: it had quote marks around it, as if I had written it, when in reality I had written no such thing. DhinMI’s point: that to even suggest that Netanyahu had advance notice of the London bombings is so obviously an “anti-Semitic conspiracy theory” that no discussion is required, regardless of what the Associated Press reports.

The Kossacks, as they call themselves, are trying to clean their act up so that they can be more closely associated with the Democratic party apparatus. However, why limit themselves to condemning my column: why not condemn AP as an “illegitimate source” for publishing the news of Netanyahu’s foreknowledge to begin with? And while they’re at it, they need to add a few more media source to the list, including some of the Israeli media. Israel Insider cites Mossad chief Meir Dagan, in an interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag:

“The Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast, the paper reports, confirming an earlier AP report. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts.”

Here is the Bild am Sonntag story in German, and a Google translation.

Is this just empty boasting on the part of the Mossad chief, or is there some truth to the initial AP report? Is Meir Dagan spreading anti-Semitic conspiracy theories?

We report. You decide.

I might add that some of the DailyKos folks are shocked – shocked! – that Antiwar.com opposed the Kosovo war. We, in turn, are shocked at the hypocrisy of those who support a war of aggression against a country, Yugoslavia, that had never attacked us, and that was never sanctioned by the United Nations. They only oppose wars started by Republicans: we at Antiwar.com, on the other hand, oppose all wars of aggression, regardless of the partisan affiliation of those in power at the time.
 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/index.php?id=P2229

London bomber made one-day Israel visit - official
 http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18303603 .htm

Mainstream Media Reports "Suicide Theory" Difficult to Swallow

Infowars.com | July 19, 2005

Here are several mainstream newspapers that are now saying what we've been saying all along: It simply doesn't add up that a group of otherwise normal and quiet individuals with families and children would blow themselves up as part of a terrorist attack.

RELATED:

Explosions In London

EXCLUSIVE: WAS IT SUICIDE?

These patsies didn't have any real motive. Who had the motive? Who benefited from the attack? Tryannical governments everywhere, most especially in the UK and the US, where these events have increased support for Blair and Bush and greased the skids for more intense "anti-terror" legislation.

Its very exciting to see mainstream publications not buying into the propaganda. Never before have so many people witnessed a government-backed terrorist attack and immediately seen through it. The results of the bombings have not been what the Globalists expected. People are awake or waking. They refuse to swallow the lie and its forcing the real perpitrators of this atrocity to change their story.
 http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/mai nstream_media_doubts_suicide_bombers.htm

British gov't protests at Iran claims over London bombings

LONDON (AFP) - Britain protested furiously to
Iran over comments by a leading Iranian politician that the London bombings might have been deliberately carried out by the British government.
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/britainattacksiran;_yl t=Aha4auf_GM6q5wPMB2Bj6fkDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW 9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

I'd say the "insulting and ridiculous" allegations were the LIES about Iraq, and now those being fed to the public, many of which have already been positively proven to be more LIES, as these Neo-Fascists attempt to justify an act of aggression against Iran.

UK boy wrongly labelled as bomber

The boy confused with (ALLEGED!!) London bomber Hasib Hussain

Evidence showing that all three of the (ALLEGED) London bombers of Pakistani descent visited Pakistan last year has been thrown into doubt.

A photograph of a passport purporting to show bomber Hasib Hussain was in fact that of a 16-year-old British boy with the same name.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/470442 7.stm

This is also true of the so-called "chemist" arrested in Egypt. I guess the UK Government forgot that it was military explosives that were used in the bombings ...

The Mossad has a long history of stealing foreign passports to use during intelligence operations. Just last year, the Canadian Government had to remind them of their promise to stop doing this with Canadian papers, and New Zealand arrested three Mossad agents, attempting to obtain NZ passports.

Just Following The Evidence


Chinese whispers...

22.07.2005 00:24

"alleged 'exercise' being run on the underground same day same stations etc, as allegedly reported by someone from a company called 'visor' on radio 5 live."

It gets more exaggerated every time I hear it.

I actually wonder how many of the people repeating this story have actually listened to the interview in question or seen a transcript? I have, and it is quite clear that this "exercise" was little more than a few people sitting in a room simulating how their company would deal with such an incident - handling traumatised staff, securing the building, getting people home, treating any injured people, etc. There was no suggestion that the drill was carried out in situ on the underground itself. The stations were simply part of the "scenario" on which the guys in the training session were doing their drill.

artaud


You dumbass worm!

22.07.2005 10:50

artaud...

I'm gald you listened to the recordings, next time try comprehending them. Where YOU got the idea that this was a closed door excercise I can't imagine. In the radio 5 interview Peter Power implies strongly that there were people on the ground and In his email response to questions regarding this matter he confirms that there were people on the ground doing a planned walkthrough at one of the exact locations at the exact time(as part of an ongoing and confidential?? excercise). This was not just a theoretical excercise for senior management, stop trying to convince people that it was... and that it is insignificant. This needs to be investigated, you moron. Get your head out of your arse and stop posting unsubstantiated supposition as if it were common sense proven fact. The evidence is there, we all have a copy of it, the mp3 of the 15.01 Radio 5 interview - the video recording of the 20.11 ITN interview and the standard email response, It's not chinese whispers and not a case of mistaken interpretation. You are the one guilty of deliberately misinterpreting his words to suit your own ends.

This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!
This was not just an in-house excercise!


NOBODY EVER QUESTIONS POWER

I don't want to see you posting this crap again artaud. See other threads for relevant info and shut your hole.

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