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GAZA AND THE PULL OUT

Betar boy | 22.05.2005 10:01 | Anti-racism | London

Why it will be a distaster

Let me say this and of course i will expect to either be deleted or have the usual anti jewish leftist postings up here.
It will be a complete disaster if a 28th arab dictatorship,corrupt,terrorist state is built in gaza.Jews have lived in Gaza for many many years and 8000 of them are about to be expelled making it judenfree a bit like what the nazis tried to achive many years ago.
People who have built the land into milk and honey despite being shot at bombed daily for years will be forced to go and the arabs will move in and burn down the synagogues and p-ss on the graves of the dead like they did in hebron.
As any one in history will tell you there is no evidence of a 'palestinian' people in these ares going back more then about 30-40 years the PLO was invented in the 60s and most 'palestinians desend from jorden and syria yet the tiny land of israel has been invaded by them as they claim it now, funny they didnt claim it in 67 when eqypt and jordan controlled gaza and judea samaria(west bank to you uneducated leftists).

it makes me sick how people in the uk can support homocide bombers anti semites who kill jews and blow up buses we live in a disgusting age, if you lot were alive during world war 2 youd be interned.

Israel were involved in the eurovision song contest, euro championship football and many other things inventers of medicines and israeli doctors treating arab kids in hospitals, , where is palestine? teaching its kids hate and to kill, same crap old excuse of being hard up, utter rubbish many parts of the world are much worse of they dont blow up pizza parlours.
I will ask the question i ask all supporters of terror

NAME ONE JUST ONE POSITIVE THING ISLAM BRINGS TO THE WORLD TODAY I ONLY SEE INVASION, KILLING,BOMBING,WARS,BEHEADING,OPPRESSION OF GAYS AND WOMEN

WE the jews have defeated the nazis the greeks the romans and 6 arab invasions and we will defeat the left and islamic fundamentalism.

Betar boy

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Please don't write of all arabs and Muslims!

22.05.2005 10:51

Please don't write off all arabs and muslims! We are not all backward fundamentalists. Some of us are American and British citizens working as doctors, lawyers, accountants and politicians. Many of us were also killed in the September 11th attacks. Many muslims I know are appalled by such barbaric acts as suicide bombings and long for peace. See this website.

http://www.arabsforisrael.com

Arab British citizen

From Across The Pond

22.05.2005 11:33

Betar boy, get a grip on reality will you. Jews defeated the Nazis? Jews defeated the Greeks? Jews defeated the Romans? I'll give Jews defeated the Arabs with a little help from the U.S. defense industry and a lot of U.S. taxpayers' money.

Your one-sided argument has too many holes to address and filling them wouldn't convince you, anyway.

Get over it. The Palestinians will have their state.

PS: I know, I'm an anti-semite, or, If I'm a Jew - I'm a self-hating Jew.

So, sad. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and apparently your's is in the trash heap.

Roland

Kol mila emet achi!

22.05.2005 11:40

Phew! Betar Boy, I admire your courage! Hear hear to your article. Every word the truth. Let's see how long it stays up, or how long till the flame wars start.

Kol Hakavod.

Israbrit

Nice post

22.05.2005 15:00

Nice post Betar Boy but Indymedia hates people seeing the truth about the Israel and Palestinin situation. The last thing they want to believe is how lots of Jews made the area bloom through free market capitalism !

There's a fundamental problem here....

22.05.2005 19:03

Betar Boy,
unfortunately there is no moral, religious or intellectual highground to be won here.
The problem is fundamentalism; be it Jewish, Christian, Islamic etc. In attempting to assert notions of superiority over another race or religion, you are damaging your own dubious arguement and questionable version of history.
Desperate people resort to desperate methods in order to survive or to resist oppression - this is the fundamental truth. It happened in the deathcamps, it's happening in Gaza and Israel.

Concerned

...

22.05.2005 19:12

Betar boy, are you trying to erase the history of an enitre people? Very much like the Nazis.

What do you mean there is no history of Palestinian people in that area. Gaza was historically the land of the Philistines. The very word, 'Palestine', derives from 'philistine', and the semitic peoples who lived there then have continued to live there for thousands of years. The Palestinians are a mixed race of people, descendents of philistines, arabs, egyptians, and Jews. I'd wager there are a great many Palestinians with more Jewish blood in them than some so-called jews from Russia, who are allowed instant rights to immigrate to Israel, simply because they make a spurious claim, and are not Muslim.

Have you ever heard of the crusades? In the crusades, the Christians came and conquered Jerusalem from, gasp, the Muslims, and then Saladin drove them out. That gives the Palestinian people at least a 1000 years of living in that land.

Seriously Betar Boy, fuck your nazi historical revisionism. Your post makes a mockery of yourself. You don't even know the history of your own people. The Jews certainly did not defeat the Romans. The fact the romans destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews to the corners of the empire is perhaps one of the single most important events of Jewish history. It's called the Diaspora, or have you not heard of that? It's a fairly traumatic and important event.

But I see you want to re-write history, into a kind of fascist, nationalist march of a master race, without learning the lessons of history's traumas.

Hermes

yes ...

22.05.2005 20:09

... betar boy really is that silly!

Really though, it's more of a mental illness - akin to brainwashing. The last thing he needs is people agreeing with him (although you don't make much headway disagreeing with him!), his paranoic delusions - including persecution, sky ghost conversation, sociopathy, psychopathy & chronic historical fantasy - are bad enough without anyone feeding into them.

Just move on ... keep on using this wondeful tool to disect fact from fiction, to put events into their cultural, historical and chronological context, and to enjoin with the widest possible cross section of humanity ...

... remember that their is no such thing as race; family is what we make it; nationalism is the first step to facism (although the unique ethnic and local cultures within them are invoilable and things to preserve and take part in); religion is bunk, but can be very pretty and thought provoking - run a mile from anyone that talks to god or says that god talks to them; your genetic makeup is 60% lettuce.

... space is big, really big.

jackslucid
mail e-mail: jackslucid@hotmail.com

racist tosh

22.05.2005 21:03

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