Sonae factory threaten local website
Kirkby Times | 12.04.2005 18:55 | Culture | Ecology | Social Struggles | Liverpool
Sonae factory threaten local website with solicitors threats and accuse website of damaging reputation of Sonae.
First off - Sonae is a factory in Kirkby Merseysdie. A factory 99% of locals oppose. Sonae have been prosecuted on several occasions since coming to Kirkby in the year 2000.
The website received a complaint as follows....
Dear Sir (Cust: xxxxxxx)
Our Ref: kirkbytimes.co.uk
We are in receipt of a complaint by Hammonds Solicitor's, who are representing their client, Sonae (UK) Limited. They have stated that the above mentioned website contains defamatory statements against, Sonae (UK) Limited. They have advised your website is having a damaging effect on its reputation.
Furthermore they are considering commencing legal actions, against yourself and/ or us as we are the hosting registrar, due the seriousness of this complaint.
To this extent we have renamed your index.html file to stop any additional traffic visiting your site. Kindly remove the offending content within 10 working days, or we shall have no option but to either suspend your account indefinately or terminate this account accordingly.
We thank you for your co-operation and hope we can resolve this issue shortly.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
xxxxxxxxx
Legal Department
1&1 Internet Ltd.
As of now - we need to move the Sonae material away from interfering UK lawyers.
After more correspondence with 1&1's legal department, it transpired that Sonae are refusing to forward the original complaint, but have 'allowed' 1&1 to supply with me the 'support articles' (our own copyrighted material) which has been duly marked on various sections of photocopied pages of the website. Some of the points of contention are arguable as to whether the wording harms Sonaes reputation. I question whether it is contentious in the eyes of the law here in the UK.
Sonae have raised issue on 3 or 4 articles, but they will keep up the pressure as the points they used could be added to by many other points of contention in any one of 118 articles. All they need do is threaten 1&1 with a legal complaint. That's why we will move the Sonae material and ask other websites to carry articles to make sure that Sonae fail to stop our freedom of speech being stolen from us. If we cannot speak out against a simple factory, then there is something wrong with this Country. To be accused of a 'crime' then to find that the accusers are not prepared to explain what the crime might be is grossly unfair and it does not 'feel' like British Justice.
Link on local news page Kirkby Times.
We can pay for hosting so all we need is some bright spark to pass on a website hosting company which will not cave into Sonae.
In short, we need some freedom of speech and cannot find it in this Country despite my/your relatives spilling blood.
Anyway - any ideas for a host - get in touch asap - thanks
Your friendly local working class website
Kirkby Times
www.kirkbytimes.co.uk
Email from website.
The website received a complaint as follows....
Dear Sir (Cust: xxxxxxx)
Our Ref: kirkbytimes.co.uk
We are in receipt of a complaint by Hammonds Solicitor's, who are representing their client, Sonae (UK) Limited. They have stated that the above mentioned website contains defamatory statements against, Sonae (UK) Limited. They have advised your website is having a damaging effect on its reputation.
Furthermore they are considering commencing legal actions, against yourself and/ or us as we are the hosting registrar, due the seriousness of this complaint.
To this extent we have renamed your index.html file to stop any additional traffic visiting your site. Kindly remove the offending content within 10 working days, or we shall have no option but to either suspend your account indefinately or terminate this account accordingly.
We thank you for your co-operation and hope we can resolve this issue shortly.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
xxxxxxxxx
Legal Department
1&1 Internet Ltd.
As of now - we need to move the Sonae material away from interfering UK lawyers.
After more correspondence with 1&1's legal department, it transpired that Sonae are refusing to forward the original complaint, but have 'allowed' 1&1 to supply with me the 'support articles' (our own copyrighted material) which has been duly marked on various sections of photocopied pages of the website. Some of the points of contention are arguable as to whether the wording harms Sonaes reputation. I question whether it is contentious in the eyes of the law here in the UK.
Sonae have raised issue on 3 or 4 articles, but they will keep up the pressure as the points they used could be added to by many other points of contention in any one of 118 articles. All they need do is threaten 1&1 with a legal complaint. That's why we will move the Sonae material and ask other websites to carry articles to make sure that Sonae fail to stop our freedom of speech being stolen from us. If we cannot speak out against a simple factory, then there is something wrong with this Country. To be accused of a 'crime' then to find that the accusers are not prepared to explain what the crime might be is grossly unfair and it does not 'feel' like British Justice.
Link on local news page Kirkby Times.
We can pay for hosting so all we need is some bright spark to pass on a website hosting company which will not cave into Sonae.
In short, we need some freedom of speech and cannot find it in this Country despite my/your relatives spilling blood.
Anyway - any ideas for a host - get in touch asap - thanks
Your friendly local working class website
Kirkby Times
www.kirkbytimes.co.uk
Email from website.
Kirkby Times
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Keep up the good fight
16.04.2005 16:45
Mike
Cheers
27.04.2005 23:11
I had a few emails with advice so sorted there.
Where are Liverpools eco types on this issue when you need em?
Nice as it is too see Greenpeace on Prescotts roof - they should be up the Sonae chimney. I know its not glamourous up here, but we would applaud you. Even that Swampy bloke would do for us - I'd even donate a session at a barbers shop for him, use of a shower and perhaps the lend of some 'designer' clothes, such as Gola, or Puma. Real class stuff.
Kirkby left wing won't help in this matter of Sonae, they won't help full stop unless its to help themselves. There are a few good ones, God Bless the ones who are, but there dying off. Good to see the IWCA with a branch here, but watch out for all those militant stalinist Ye Olde Left knobheads. They will never get power, but will stab any working class in the back to make sure we don't stir things up and mess up there little cost deals in Liverpool. These people are a disgrace to Liverpool.
Might post something up to discuss it - as this place is becoming boring with not a lot of local events or anything controversial. No offence to those having a go, its just the way it is right now everywhere. Liverpools political circles have never been so dull. Too many people know each other, the same faces pop up and the same old shit is said. Liverpool has never been so divided.
As for marching with the TUC. You'd be safer getting behind lemmings as they line up on the cliffs.
Good luck.
Joe Hills mate.
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