ironic title for a newspaper as it's owned by the quintessentially english 'Press Holdings' - owners of the the ultra conservative Spectator and Daily Telegraph, the latter +famed+ for it's involvement with anti-left / anti-capitalist smear campaigns. seem to remember their last intended victim was a scotsman. now exonerated.

What a load of bileous sectarian tosh masquerading as serious comment.HH needs to get out a bit more.
Still ,you know there is a major demonstration coming up when the anti swp ranters start having tantrums on the web!
huw

Just who is this 'HH' character who keep popping up every time there's a major protest and stirring it between different groups? I mean seriously, who uses words like 'fecund' and 'cant' these days? Kind of suggests a public school upbringing like someone from MI5 might have perhaps? Just a thought...

Just who is this 'suspicious' character who keep popping up every time there's a major protest and stirring it between different groups? I mean seriously, who uses words like 'lingo' and 'shall ye' these days? Kind of suggests a public school upbringing like someone from MI5 might have perhaps? Just a thought...

Chavez will boycot...Socialist Workers Paper!

Jerome. You are dangerous! I wetted my boxers and nearly died laughing. Further legislation is needed for Blair‘s obsession: “The War Against Terror” (TWAT) to outlaw such terrorist jokes and permanently lock them up in Bellmarsh. The promised Newish Labour "Terrorist Jokes Act 2005." will remove the likes of you off our streets (no doubt swp and Tories will oppose it - woolly liberals).

In the meantime, a pair of incontinence pants and oxygen supply should accompany your images. I'll shop you to MI5 by calling their grasser‘s public hot line [020 7930 9000]. Or drop them a line, 12 Millbank, SW1P, if you want to hand yourself in, you outrageous terrorist jokester .

Be warned I have already shopped a bloke called Osama Bin Laden for just sporting a mildly amusing false beard, which was legislated for in the Terrorist Beards Act 2002, by Home Secretary David Blunket, who, hypocritically, sports the most weirdly funny hirsute facial hair since Lord Kitchener. That’s why 5 removed him from public office, in danger of being hoisted by his own petard, it would have been bigger than the Profumo scandal.

The up coming election would have been a disaster for Newish Labour, and Blair’s and Alistair Campbell’s shared lover and terrorist ally, John Scarlet, Head of MI6. He of the Dodgy trousers affair they wear each other’s trousers for sexual reasons, that they got from some weird internet site. Don't understand it myself, but they are an odd bunch. I know so much more, so 5 or 6 send me a check, you tight bastards, or I’ll blab.

I shouldn't be saying this really, but I am getting tired of working for Mi5 without wages, and Newish Labour are taking the piss - I might just do an expose on them in the Daily mail if they pay good money. ( A couple of hundred maybe, but no Northern Irish Notes. You got be careful, apparently MI5 are paying all their grasses in dodgy Northern Irish notes that no pub anywhere will accept, tight or what).


Huw: brilliant stuff as usual - time to chuck in the day job as an ex-miner, learn how to summersault and do the splits, and lick George Galloway’s arse so you can become a demo organising flip flopping swp full-time splitter. I might recommend you to 5 if you can get a job at the swp head office.

Brilliant incites Suspicious, you fecund cant. My mother’s low wages couldn’t afford to send me to public school (you see parents want the best for their kids you idiot ... they make the final decisions, not the kids). And mi5 haven’t yet let me know that I work for them (they wouldn‘t though, would they, because they are so secretive). My mysterious identity? Use that brilliant mind of yours, and a magnifying glass - I know all agents have one - while looking at my article again; you are the only person capable of decoding it. Clue: the microdot is somewhere between the two H’s of my code name HH

However, you have sussed me out, with your cunning psychological profiling: I once lent my cricket trousers to a an ex-Eton public school boy, and pissed on mi5’s back door, like a dog marking its territory. Oh yes, and I did split four people off from one of the big anti-war demos to go for a few beers in the Horse and Coaches in Soho (and was nearly arrested for carrying a placard off the demo, really, just told the young copper that he‘d look an fucking idiot in court). How did you know all this? Were you disguised as an idiot copper. You must be in ‘5’ or ‘6’ yourself, or are you a resentful special branch foot soldier given the crap job of spamming Indymedia. The secret is safe with me. But how come they pay tossers like you -init good to know our taxes are being put to good use!


That’s it, enough is enough. MI5! I am resigning, those tight bastards haven't paid me a penny. I am billing them £10 for this comment. If they send me another reply, advising that I should seek medical advice for my painful complaint that's it, I am moving on. Anyway, why do these shits think I have piles? They must have planted a microchip sensor where the sun doesn’t shine to monitor my movements. I am pointing the finger at you ‘Suspicious’ you must be an expert in that territory since you seem to be up your own rear.

Anyway: I can walk straight into a job tomorrow with the more successful and environmentally friendly Greenland secret service protecting seals from terrorists.

And, huw/suspicious, all you and your beloved sect ever seem to do is shoot yourselves in the feet.. Can’t be many feet left, so why don’t you hold the pistol pointing upwards, when you respond, and finish yourselves off.

There was a fecund chap called Ed
Who hated trots ,so he said
He searched north to the G8
But the time it was late
And now its hot milk and a biscuit in bed!

Biscuits are free,
The G8 of Gleneagles
coming are we,
Making our placards with og, so that we find
Things that the everyday folks leave behind ...

Lostit

What's that - music to the rescue, my stereo speakers are explodin ...

"You are handsome you are pretty the queen of New York City
You scumbag you trotskyist you cheap lousy faggot ..."

Oh my God, feelin dizzy ..,

Holly sweethearts! Kirsty McCall, bless her, has come to the rescue: she's just jumped out of my stereo speakers and abducted me.

Loseinit ..

"Dreamed a dream by the old canal
Dirty old time, dirty old time"

Findinit

Kirrrrrrsty ... Mmm. How about some hot milk and biscuits ... and ... mmm .arr.. mmm .... bb bb bb bbbb bbb

“Let’s kiss on the border and dream through the night”

"Fine by me"

B bb bye B ed

From the Newstatesman -

[An arguably reputable liberal Weekly Magazine analysing British politics owned by Multi-Millionaire Coventry Labor MP Geoffrey Robinson who was forced to resign from the Cabinet over a secret loan to Peter Mandelson, and a dodgy check from the fraudster Robert Maxwell- also a former Labour MP.]


In this article two leading swp members, Guy Taylor and Gill Hubbard, talk to the media about the upcoming G8. Notably the reporter was very politely refused an interview by anti-authoritarians from the DISSENT network, although he makes a joke about it and believes it was because they didn't have a pencil to note down his phone number.

What is also notable how these swp members have changed their tune, for the better in my opinion:

"Gill Hubbard, insists that the 2001 G8 protests in Genoa suffered from heavy-handed policing rather than violent rioters ..."

And Guy Taylor’s - a seasoned activist - experience of being followed by the police has obviously had an impact on him. Just as they did me two years ago, when I and a three members of a Samba band (who they were really interested in) were followed for hours on the underground by a small team of coppers.

In the end we went to a pub in Hackney, where they called in support and surrounded the pub. Other drinkers in the pub were astonished and outraged. At 9pm, as it was getting dark, we had to make our escape over a back wall and run off in different directions, otherwise they would have followed us home. I was a bit pissed have imbibed a quantity of Guinness, and ran into a tree - luckily it wasn't a copper disguised as a tree, which would have been a nice touch to an already surreal experience. .

The article is better by a mile than most of the stuff written about the g8. But the G8 at Brum wasn't incident free. Perhaps someone from Reclaim the Streets could comment. Since then the midlands police have honed their rioting skills.

It's not nice. But this has been routine for years now for anti-authoritarians.

 http://www.newstatesman.com/200502210021

Scotland waits for July riots
Tom Wall
Monday 21st February 2005



Tom Wall finds potential protesters already being harassed as police prepare for the G8 summit

Guy Taylor, angry about third-world poverty, the Iraq war and Britain's treatment of asylum-seekers, was planning to demonstrate against the July G8 conference in Scotland. Now he has something else to be angry about: this month, after attending a peaceful demo outside the G7 finance ministers' meeting, he was followed for five hours, across London, by two uniformed police officers.

"I walked from Trafalgar Square to Oxford Circus," he told me, "got a bus to Euston, then got the Tube down to Bank, then got another bus to Liverpool Street and finally walked to Brick Lane. I was followed by two cops in Day-Glo jackets all the way. By the end of it I was on first-name terms with them."

North of the border, it's worse. Senior police officers have issued warnings about anarchist groups bent on hijacking peaceful demonstrations and turning them into orgies of violence. Politicians have announced Scotland is a global target. Newspapers have published alarming stories about G8 mayhem and rings of steel.

The largest police operation in modern British history is under way. An army of specialist officers from across the country is preparing to help secure the conference. Halls of residence at the Universities of Stirling and Edinburgh have been set aside as accommodation. Meanwhile, Special Branch is covertly monitoring activists throughout the UK and liaising with national and international security agencies. It is expected that once demonstrators start arriving, the Edinburgh authorities will cordon off the Scottish Parliament, the Palace of Holyroodhouse and other historical sites around the city. Tayside Police intends to issue residents near Gleneagles Hotel, the venue for the conference, with ID passes, and restrict movement throughout the week.

The chief constable in charge of the G8 policing operation, John Vine, told me these measures are justified because previous G8 protests, especially at the Genoa summit in 2001, descended into violence. He is considering using Section 44 of the Terrorism Act to allow searches without reasonable suspicion - and to prevent disruptive individuals entering the country.

This provokes everything from polite consternation to fury in the protest movement. The mainstream Make Poverty History campaign (a coalition of more than 200 charities, trade unions and faith groups) argues that talk of violence may discourage families from attending: "Our record is one of massive public mobilisations that have been completely peaceful."

The previous G8 summit in Britain, in 1998, passed off without incident despite 70,000 people surrounding Birmingham's International Convention Centre. It was a remarkable success for the global justice movement - ever since, the issue of developing-world debt relief has climbed steadily up the political agenda. But it is doubtful that protesters could ever get as close again to international policy-makers.

"We are drifting into a situation where certain measures are automatically put in place around large conferences," said a spokesman for the civil rights group Liberty. The police argue that they are only responding to intelligence. Yet it is impossible to judge if their arrangements are proportionate, as they refuse to give more details. Vine told me that disclosure of intelligence would be unprecedented for an operation of this scale: "I'm very conscious of human rights and I'm not going to put in place these measures unless it is essential to secure the conference. That's my call, that's my judgement, so I suppose on my head be it."

The anti-capitalist alliance G8 Alternatives intends to hold peaceful public demonstrations at the Faslane nuclear base, Dungavel detention centre and Gleneagles Hotel. A leading member, Gill Hubbard, insists that the 2001 G8 protests in Genoa suffered from heavy-handed policing rather than violent rioters. Indeed, more than 70 Italian police officers, including senior commanders, are about to go on trial, accused of orchestrating police brutality at that conference and then attempting to cover it up.

So who are the mysterious anarchists plotting to disrupt the summit? The police told me they are particularly concerned about the Dissent network - a very loose coalition of anti-war, environmental and anarchist activists. Yet this group does not have a central office, spokespeople or a membership list. Moreover the police admit they have no specific information about any plots, despite monitoring and surveillance.

After repeated attempts to contact some of the groups involved in the Dissent network, I spoke to a nice man from the London Action Resource Centre. He said he would pass on my interview request but couldn't find a pen to write down my number. Bungling? Perhaps. Sinister network? Not really.


Best wishes to all for Gleneagles.

There was a young man from out west
who went out without wearing his vest
his teeth started to chatter
i asked what is the matter?
"It's the trots" he answered with zest!

quote
"at a previous meeting of the G8, in Genoa, the police, without provocation, beat the crap out of demonstrators in a school being used a sleeping place. Alec Callinicos, disgracefully blamed anarchists for this."
Ok, ed, a few quick points:
1. SWP members were amongst those beaten and imprisoned at the School.
2. We campaigned to have ALL people freed from prison.
3. I organised a benefit for the ALL the Genoa justice people (raised £1000) and we are SHARING the money between all people (SWP or autonomist) to aid the campaign to prosecute the police.
4. This wasn't the first time. I had previously raised HUNDREDS of pounds for another (anarchist) demonstrator who was imprisoned in Gotheburg. (the money went to a womble "leader" to use as he decided).
5. I was at Genoa, at the school, saw with my own eyes the brutality of the police BUT I also saw the stupididty of some sections of the anarchsist "block." (I'm thinking starting fires beneath flats against the request of the local fire union)
6. The tactics of the black block were long debated after Genoa. But to recap:
You were used by the state. It allowed the police another opportunity to beat people. YES I KNOW they would anyway. BUT you gave them another disguise. You always stand outside of the majority and complain that OTHERS are undemocratic. And th SWP has every right to resist, just as you do mate.

Yep, a lot of swp members like many from other groups did a lot of campaigning after the diaz raid and general pre-planned police brutality. In fact a lot of swp members are good people (shock horror!).

But to clear some points :

- it wasn't just "anarchists" who were involved in street clashes
- the 'black block' were in no way made up of just "anarchists"
- lots of anarchists were on other blocks or marches

As to saying standing outside of the majority... well in Genoa a very large number of people, marches and blocks, all said their intention was to breach the red zone... this was not a minority of people... (and yet they all got attacked even before there were any 'black block' in their sectors).

If you hate the SWP, then this is hardly a surprise, though I doubt you'd want to PREVENT them from organising a big demo for the G8.

The G8 Alternatives is MOBILISING people in Scotland. This is a GOOD THING.

The more people the better.

Oh yeah and G8 Alternatives is pretty open and has some good people working in it.

BUT GILL IS ABOUT THE ONLY PERSONE TALKING TO THE MEDIA!! THIS IS SHIT. SORT IT OUT....

EASY. END OF STORY.

Now get on with planning a damn big set of actions for the G8 - remembering that at almost every major international mobilisation against large summits the interplay between different groups and supporters has been positive and useful.