Fascist Boneheads in Train Accident

Antifa | 15.01.2005 17:20 | Anti-racism | London

After a lot of confusion and last minute date changing (no doubt to keep anti-fascists off the scent), the National Front (NF) finally decided to have their march in Woolwich on Saturday 15th January. The march was held to stir up racial tensions following the horrible murder of white teenager Terry Gregory last year. His family have repeatedly said they want nothing to do with the NF or their politics. This was the one-year anniversary of Terry's death, with the NF also holding a march last year.

One group of anti-fascists spotted two particularly ugly and badly dressed boneheads and followed them onto a train heading towards their meet up point. At the next stop, the boneheads were made to feel extremely 'uncomfortable' on the train and one fascist would later turn up to the march looking more than a little worse for wear. One anti-fascist sustained an injury, from the fascists attacking his fists with their faces!

The NF later held their march, bringing out thirty members (almost half last year's total) and the Unite Against Fascism picket had around a hundred, with similar numbers of police. No arrests were made.

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15.01.2005 23:21

for fucks sake, is it ok to batter a fash?

anarchkit

Bash the Fash!

16.01.2005 12:04

Yes. Yes it is.

anti-fascist

Anti-Fascist Fascism?

16.01.2005 12:40

Be aware that even if the IMCers are unable to trace the source of articles put up on Indymedia, there are people who can. Judge for yourself where the political sympathies of those who can might lie.

But if people were identified as NF, or even worse fascists like New Labour, the best action is not to reinforce their beliefs by a beating from some lefties. That ensures that some lefty will get a hiding in the future. Far better to get into sympathetic discussion and put helpful questions that might cause them to enlighten themselves.

YKW

seems to me that

16.01.2005 13:51

if the best way to slow halt and regress fascist growth is to beat them up, then that is a perfectly reasonable (and moral) action. But I do think that it needs to be rationally compared to other methods, like getting into communities ahead of the BNP with our own propagnda, innuring people to their racist bile - or perhaps even (as someone else said) talking to them?

not sure about the last one. But I don't think it's a moral imperative to 'bash the fash' - only to stop them. And methods for stopping need to be carefully considered.

moral pragmatist

Hitlers thoughts

16.01.2005 14:50

Not someone I would usually quote but maybe its applicable

'Only one thing could have stopped our movement--if our adversaries had understood its principle and, from the first day, smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement'.
Adolf Hitler

Personally I think violence maybe necessary against fascists as a last resort. People should be made a aware of what complete and utter bastards they are first and what they actually want then maybe they wouldnt get as much support. I think if they are violent then smack em back.

Dobbs

BASH THE FASH

16.01.2005 14:55

Well done to whoever bashed the fashists,they are racist biggots and deserve everything they get. Whats the point of trying to reason with someone who clearly has not got a clue, they dont want a diplomatic descussion...they just need a kicking.

BASH THE FASH

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16.01.2005 15:39

so is booting em going to make it better? or are they just going to hate you more and become even more right wing?

anarchkit

Beating people up is not the way

16.01.2005 16:00

Beating up bone heads is not going to help the situation. perhaps you enjoy ? perhaps you some time make
mistakes and beat up people who are not fascists, perhaps you sometimes beat up people who you don't maybe for a personal grudge. How do you decide who gets a kicking and who don't ? .
I guess the type of people who go to NF marches in Woolwich are likely to have very little affect on the live in the borough, why don't you try investigating the corrupt local politicians and their mates it will do much more to help the cause .
In my opinion people who beat up fascists are no better than the fascists themselves ..

hooligan

Is AntiFa making smokescreen for real fascists in New Labour?

16.01.2005 16:31

Dobbs-
The Communists understood the nature of Hitlerism and did attack it with ruthless determination that did, many year later, stop it. But the Fascism that funded Hitler goes on to dominate the world and our stupid anti-fascists do nothing to stop New Labour helping Bush complete the bulding of World Fascism.

If people do not smash New Labour now, they wll have to adjust to living under Global fascism until Life on Earth terminates. "Global Dimming" suggests that will be quite soon.

Antifa
How did you check that Bonehead was not an Anarchist or a SWP Spy? Or thanks for improving his credibility? God help you if he was a Police Spy with vindictive friends.

YKW

Talking to them legitimises them.

16.01.2005 16:44

That's my twopence.

geeza

Idiots

16.01.2005 19:42

So how do you know these 'bone heads' were fascists?

For all you know you've just assaulted 2 people on the basis of their race : eg caucasian, for doing nothing other then being on a train and having a short hair cut, eg an unprovoked racist attack.

Pacifista

Pacifista you idiot...

17.01.2005 08:38

Yes Im sure people like you can mistake a booted up skin wearing white-power badges with a Monk surfing the rail networks!

Do shut up!

Anti-idiot

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18.01.2005 15:00

erm, if the fash fight back and batter you, or you guys get "attacked" by them, then you come hear moaning about how violent these people are so if its ok for you to get them, why arnt they allowed to get you?

anarchkit

SOME OBSERVATIONS

24.01.2005 23:50

1. Its pretty easy to spot fash since they're virtually incapable of being subtle. However much they try to blend in, they can't resist the bonehead look, and even if they're trying to act subtle, the air of defiant paranoia gives the game away. Whether they were white with short hair or not is irrelevant, as any decent anti-fascist would establish if they were fash or not before twatting them.

2. I find this whole wet liberal approach to fascism hilarious. Now I don't like fighting much, and I'm not very good at it, but physical confrontation is part of the working class fight against fascism. End of story. If you want to try having some ethical debate with a bunch of pissed boneheads then best of luck mate. What are you going to do when they kick your head in? Some kind of Ghandian passive resistance? Personally I'd advocate smacking the bastards before they get a chance to do it to you.

3. If anyone can point out to me a major defeat that british fascism has suffered that hasn't involved physical force, I'll be amazed.

4. Its ludicrous to portray the struggle against fascism in purely fighting vs lollipop-waving terms. You use the best tactics for the situation at hand, whether thats leafletting estates or attacking fash physically or whatever. Splitting a struggle into opposing camps like that is counter-productive and only serves the interests of the enemy. And if you don't like the tactics some people use, don't slag them off for it... you don't have to get involved if you don't want to.

5. Well done to the folk who did the business in London...

R.A.S.H. SKIN

OK

30.01.2005 19:59

guess your right rash. still dont think its right tho.

anarchkit