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Members of Sai Baba inner circle allegedly abused students

Soren Lardegard | 28.11.2004 23:18 | Repression

[NOTE: THIS POSTING AND ONE OF ITS COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEAVILY EDITED. IT HAD A HOMOPHOBIC TENDENCY AND MENTIONED SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS MORE THAN IT DOES NOW. THE REST OF THE ARTICLE HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS A FOUNDATION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF SUCH DISCUSSION CAN BE CARRIED OUT WITH MUTUAL RESPECT IN A DECENT TONE. INDYMEDIA KINDLY PROVIDES THIS PLATFORM FOR TRAUMATISED EX-CULT MEMBERS WHO ARE BADLY NEEDING TO COME TO TERMS WITH REALITY, BUT THERE ARE LIMITS. FOR OUTRAGES PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR HAS SUPPLIED HIS EMAIL ADDRESS | lardegard@hotmail.com| FOR FURTHER INFO. WRITE TO HIM. THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE TO BEHAVE!:-]

New allegations of sexual abuse have furfaced around Sai Baba. Two members of Sai Baba's inner circle are suspected of abusing young students.

Members of Sai Baba inner circle allegedly abused students

Several former students of Sai Baba, who until now alleged that they had been sexually abused by SSB, claim that they were also abused by two close associates of the guru: Dr. X, and someone from the Netherlands.
Rumours about Sai Baba’s sexual activities have circulated for more than fifteen years. Allegations have arisen in many countries and from many individuals. They are backed up by written accounts and signed affidavits by alleged victims, and by television interviews with victims made on television.. It appears that Sai Baba knew of this sexual abuse and condoned it.

Someone, whose account of being sexually molested by SSB can be read on many websites, now alleges that he was also sexually molested by someone else.

Others allege that when a friend of his mentioned this to Sai Baba SSB replied: "Do not tell this to anybody. You may have heard these things by chance. Forget what you heard.”

B - the son of C, former regional leader in the Sai Organisation in another country, also abused by SSB, now alleges that he was abused by Dr. X and by the other person as too.
Although the facts cannot be proven by physical evidence, they have recently given taped interviews against Dr. X and his associate.

They also expressed that it took them years to come to terms with their experiences and that they very much fear being harassed, persecuted, attacked or worse by the alleged perpetrators of the abuse.
Dr. X, who SSB had made other nonsense at his hospital and who was a lecturer at the ashram for years is alleged to also have molested children. Dr. X had made no secret that he had been a sexual partner of SSB for years. It was known that he was in a position to know about the massive sexual exploitation by SSB of students. What was not known however is that, just like Sai Baba, Dr. X and that same person were allegedly raping young students at the ashram. One returned to the some country.

These new allegations stand out because of the former closeness of these people to Sai Baba.
Y interprets Z'z violent attacks on Sai Baba in recent years as an attempt to distanciate himself from his shameful past.
Hearing of the allegations made by X, Y, and Z, Sai devotee Luther Blissed Out - an space cadet now teaching leadership and values in an educational circus accused these alleged victims of being deluded as to their own experiences without producing tangible evidence.

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Soren Lardegard
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What a bunch of libelous bullshit so typical of cults

17.12.2004 23:40

You post these heinous accusations without a shred of evidence. This is so typical of you cult snoids, attacking former cult members who are now critical of the cult. Face it, SSB is a PERVERT !!!

Gerry


X has formed a link with the Ex-Premie Org Hate Group

18.12.2004 00:24

I'm amused by Mr X's tactics. He has become a very active poster on a virulent Hate Group's website and Forum, the so called Ex Premie.org group -former followers of Prem Rawat. Strange bedfellows! The Hate group have been thoroughly discredited in Australia and in the US for both Cyber crimes (Stalking and unauthorised use) and in Australia (for theft , Drug Trafficking and Perjury)
They seem to deserve one another!

Peter Gordon


The above post is more cult backlash

18.12.2004 01:01

Go visit www.ex-premie.org and judge for yourselves. The critical reaction against Prem Rawat and HIS destructive personality cult is gaining momentum and is far from being discredited anywhere.

One guy in Australia who protested against the cult there was ratted out as a pot grower by the very people who were his customers--devotees of Guru Maharaji! Talk about hypocrisy and vindictiveness.

Another journalist was set up by the husband of a cult member and foolishly took the bait in posting internal cult documents on the internet and was hounded and persecuted mercilessly by the cult and its big pockets full of ill-gotten monies.

That's all they have against a background of thirty years cheat and deceit. Not to mention the many suicides, murders (yes, in Florida) the loss of prime life productivity and the emotional and financial plundering by the Rawat personality cult.

Strange bedfellows? More like peas in a pod, Rawat and that creep SSB.

Gerry


Andries Krugers Dagneaux current Hate Group affiliation

18.12.2004 05:59

Andries is now a self-appointed spokesperson for a small internet based 'Ex-premie' Hate Group, and has become a regular contributor to their internet forum, Forum 8. Messages in support of Andries and the Hate Group have been posted here by Gerry Lyng of Washington state, US, a well known member of the 'ex-premie' group. Over a 7 year period the Hate Group has managed to elicit approximately 160 expressions of support worldwide, however, fewer than 20 people now maintain active involvement. Since 2002, several former active participants have left the group in disgust over the behavior of people such as Gerry Lyng.

For accurate information about the Hate Group, the convicted criminals involved in the group (a drug dealer and a former journalist), their tactics and their disinformation campaign against Prem Rawat and his students, please visit www.one-reality.net

James R

James R
- Homepage: http://www.one-reality.net


Andries Krugers Dagneaux current Hate Group affiliation

18.12.2004 07:06

Andries is now a self-appointed spokesperson for a small internet based 'Ex-premie' Hate Group, and has become a regular contributor to their internet forum, Forum 8. Messages in support of Andries and the Hate Group have been posted here by Gerry Lyng of Washington state, US, a well known member of the 'ex-premie' group. Over a 7 year period the Hate Group has managed to elicit approximately 160 expressions of support worldwide, however, fewer than 20 people now maintain active involvement. Since 2002, several people have left the group in disgust over the behavior of participants such as Gerry Lyng.

For accurate information about the Hate Group, the convicted criminals involved in the group (a drug dealer and a former journalist), their tactics and their disinformation campaign against Prem Rawat and his students, please visit www.one-reality.net

James R

James R
- Homepage: http://www.one-reality.net


Down with all criticism of our holy Master

18.12.2004 19:25

Why can all these hate mongers like Kruegers and EX-PREMIE HATE GROUP insult and defame the only one and true perfect master, all the time? Make an end to their ignorance. They should all be sued and sentenced.
He, who shows us the essence of ALL religions, has come to give us the keys to everlasting peace and happiness. Like Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Buddha, Jesus Christ and Mother Theresa and so many others who wanted to bring peace to the world, he is harrassed by those who have lost their mental health.

Subji

Subji
- Homepage: http://www.one-reality.net


One Reality is a cult smear site

21.12.2004 19:07

I ran a support forum for former cult members for approximately three years. "James R" (most likely a false name) runs a vile, ugly, libelous smear site and I highly recommend you compare his site, one-reality.org to the former cult member's site at ex-premie.org.

You will readily get the sense of who is honorable and who is a hate filled, lying cult member. "James R" (some allege he is really Charles Glasser, an attorney for Bloomberg News) is a long time member of the Guru Maharaji (now Prem Rawat) destructive personality cult.

Gerry


The BOOGIE MAN will get ya

01.02.2005 14:03

The irony is that I enjoy reading posts like the one above by Gerry Lyng. It's hilarious. So, my site is vile and ugly. Well, perhaps that is because it contains numerous examples of expressions of hate lifted from Gerry Lyng's so called "support group." Or perhaps because it includes accurate descriptions of the antics and ultimate fate of criminal members of the ex-premie hate group. Or perhaps because it exposes ringleaders such as Jim Heller. However, it is not libelous: it is factually accurate.

Now, I would like to establish the veracity or otherwise of statements about Andries in the heavily edited article above.

BTW, my name is not Charles - wrong person, wrong continent. Gerry and the other conspiracy freaks will just have to keep guessing.

James R
- Homepage: http://www.one-reality.net