Indonesian police set-up Jakarta man?
Sian Powell and Sian Howl | 24.11.2004 00:14 | Social Struggles | London | World
Makes you want to move to Indonesia doesn't it? Sounds like a great place for a holiday? A great place for civil liberties as long as you don't get set-up, framed and become a scapegoat for the golden triangle the US, Indonesia, and Australia!
INDONESIAN police have profiled and captured Rois allegedly the field commander of the attack on the Australian embassy in Jakarta?
Allegedly the trusted lieutenant of Asia's most wanted demons, Azahari bin Husin and Noordin Mohammad Top.
The Un-Australian Newspaper reported, "In a major breakthrough for the investigation, Rois was caught in the act of planning more bomb attacks on targets in Jakarta, police sources said."
But in an exclusive interview we spoke to a representative of the CIA Mr Tomatoe Sauce and he said that Rois was chosen and then set up for the bombing.
Sauce said, "They will claim Rois was on the run since the September 9 embassy blast? Then police will remind you of the 10 dead so you will not think twice about revenge on this innocent person whose been set-up for the CIA," he said.
"The notion of the suicide bomber is a complete lie meant to attempt to convince the populace that this is the work of "Islamic radicals" that are willing to blow themselves up at a time when there is "no war" in Indonesia."
"Who would blow themselves up when there is no war? Who would give up their life for no struggle? The CIA would! Why? Because the CIA are at war with the world, and they aim to cause terror and slam the Iron fist of fear into the community in the Asian pacific region."
The Un-Australian reported: "Rois the slight man from West Java was rounded up almost two weeks ago. But his capture has remained a tightly kept secret? Police had offered a reward of 500million rupiah, or more than $70,000, for news of him. "
"Hunted by a detachment of crack US-trained anti-terror police, Rois has reportedly evaded arrest on several occasions. The "militant" is thought to have planned the logistics for the embassy attack, and decided on escape routes and hiding places for many of those involved. A senior Indonesian police officer told The Un-Australian that Rois and five others were caught in separate locations in mid-November, but the news of their detention had just begun to emerge"
"Rois was found with three bombs and other explosives, the officer said, and had planned to attack Jakarta over the week-long Idul Fitri holiday last week."
Makes you want to move to Indonesia doesn't it? Sounds like a great place for a holiday? A great place for civil liberties as long as you don't get set-up, framed and become a scapegoat for the golden triangle the US, Indonesia, and Australia!
Labelled and Tortured?
But notice The Un- Australian reporter goes on to say that the "militant", is thought to have planned the logistics for the embassy attack?
Now the man "without a second name" known as Rois has lost his name and is described as the "militant" another alias? Surely that will ensure a fair trial for the accused?
The Un-Australian "The militant, accused of recruiting attack operatives, has been interrogated along with the other captured operatives in a secret location by investigators from anti-terror police Detachment 88."
No doubt about being detached that I can assure you! Question is does Indonesia think all Australians are stupid? It seems they do!
Here we go now!
The Un-Australian: "At least three of the operatives were connected to an explosion in Cicurug, south of Jakarta, when militants accidentally detonated explosives. Four men escaped the scene."
"We captured Rois along with people from Cicurug," the officer said, noting that all were thought to be connected with the embassy blast.
"One of them had a wounded arm from the explosion. They are all now officially suspects."
"Rois used a variety of identity cards and aliases. Sources say he moved rapidly around Java and regularly visited Malaysia. He is believed to be close to both Azahari and Top, the two Malaysians integral to the 2002 Bali blasts that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians, as well as being the leaders in the bomb attack on the Marriott Hotel in Jakarta last year that killed 12 people."
But what about 911 you might as well add that to the melting pot in the grand scheme of things?
The 911 atrocity, and also for the 1012 bombing in Bali, there are three possible truths.
1. Muslim extremists, who hate the West, were responsible, as told in the official truth. In the case of 1012 the official truth has been played out in an Indonesian court, with accused who have admitted their guilt. The latter touch considerably increases the authenticity of the official truth in the eyes of those who don't look too hard.
2. Elements within the US government staged 911 and framed Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. The CIA, as is widely believed in Asia, were behind the Bali bombing. (But how does that explain the admissions of Amrozi and the alleged involvement of Jemaah Islamiyah?
3. Both 911 and 1012 were joint operations between governments, much like the Normandy landings. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is a possible line of citizens inquiry, and quite legitimate. Within this possibility, the US and Saudi governments colluded with regard to 911, and Osama bin Laden was part of the plot. The US had bought his loyalty long ago, in Afghanistan during the Russian occupation. In the case of 1012, the US, Indonesian and Australian governments colluded to spur public reaction and support for the War on Terror.
The second possible truth seems improbable to many people. This is particularly the case in respect of 1012, because there are people like Amrozi who have admitted guilt, and who face the death penalty. Although the third possible truth seems even more fanciful to most, it actually removes the issues around Osama bin Laden and Amrozi. If they were part of a joint operation by elements of the (OWO) Old World Order, they could be expected to convey the impression that they were solely to blame, as Muslim terrorists, and that the (CoW) Coalition of the Willing is, therefore, waging a just war on defenceless people in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries to come.
What needs to be remembered, when grappling with the enormity of the betrayal inherent in both of the second and third of the possible truths, is this. In the War on Witches, up to a million people were cruelly tortured and executed. But, as even a ten year old child could tell you today, just by basic reasoning, there were no witches in medieval Europe. None.
Allegedly Azahari and Top have both been accused of being senior members of Jemaah Islamiah, the terrorist network no one has even heard of in Indonesia until it was thought up by the CoW who blamed the demon, witches for a string of bombings across Indonesia, including the Bali and Marriott blasts. Allegedly it is reported that Rois has been more of a shadowy figure, but police say he played a crucial operational role in the embassy attack?
The Un-Australian: News of Rois's capture was also reported yesterday by Kompas Cyber Media, the website of one of Indonesia's most respected newspapers, which claimed in an unsourced item that Indonesia's national police chief, Dai Bachtiar, would soon report the arrest to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
Kompas Cyber Media most respected news good try but it's still bullshit!
Australian police have assisted Indonesian people in the hunt for the militants accused of the embassy attack, and Rois has been a prime target.
The Inquisition and the War on Witches were instruments used by the faltering Medieval World Order to contain change and maintain their power and control. The "witches" that the Roman church persecuted to further its own ends, were a fiction. The people who died during the terror of the Inquisition were real enough, but the threat they posed was conjured up to preserve an old, and unequal, way of life.
Today, the systems of government and state control are global. There is every reason to expect that government and industrial elites might mount another witch-hunt, to retain power for a little longer. There are already active secessionist movements in Indonesia, and the Australian government, as argued earlier, faces the same potential, as new technologies erode its relevance. While it is not yet possible for ordinary people in Indonesia and Australia to know definitely, that there is collusion between their central governments - step 8 on the Truth Scale from 1-10 - there are sound reasons to examine and discuss this possibility.
Safe Havens For Terrorists
People who rely on the mass media for their information are likely to imagine that terrorists spend their active lives, and their retirement, in caves such as those at Tora Bora in Afghanistan. They are thought of as living a precarious existence in difficult circumstances. However, as John Pilger and others point out, a great many monsters created by the West live comfortably in communities that have no idea who they are. Here are several excerpts from Pilger's book, The New Rulers of the World.
* "In 1998, President Clinton went before the United Nations to speak on terrorism. 'What are our global obligations?' he asked. 'To give terrorists no support, no sanctuary.' Following September 11, 2001, President George W Bush said almost the same words. 'In the war against terrorism,' he said, 'we're going to hunt down these evil-doers wherever they are, no matter how long it takes.'
Strictly speaking, it should not take long, as more terrorists are given 'training, support and sanctuary' in the United States than anywhere on earth. They include mass murderers, torturers, former and future tyrants and assorted international criminals who fit the President's description. This is virtually unknown by the American public."
* "General Prosper Avril, the Haitian dictator, liked to display the bloodied victims of his torture on television. When he was overthrown, he was flown to Florida by the US government. The notorious Haitian death squad leader Emanuel Constant, whose thugs terrorised Haiti, mutilating people with machetes, lives in New York. Armando Fernandez Larios, a member of a Chilean military squad responsible for torture and executions following the overthrow of Salvador Allende in 1973, lives in Miami. Argentine Admiral Jorge Enrico, who was associated with the infamous 'Dirty War' of torture and 'disappearances' in the 1970s, lives in Hawaii. Thiounn Prasith, Pol Pot's henchman and apologist at the United Nations, lives in Mount Vernon, New York."
* "In California, in the eighties, I met four Vietnamese who had been assassins in America's Operation Phoenix; one of them ran a fast food drive-in. He seemed a contented man. What all these people have in common, apart from their history of terrorism, is that they were either working directly for the US government or carrying out the dirty work of American policies. Operation Phoenix, for example, devised, funded and run by the CIA, was responsible for up to 50,000 murders."
* "Much was made of al-Qa'ida's training camps in Afghanistan, the target of American bombers. But these were kindergartens compared with the world's leading university of terrorism at Fort Benning in Georgia. Known until recently as the School of the Americas, it trained some 60,000 Latin American soldiers, policemen, paramilitaries and intelligence agents. Forty per cent of the Cabinet ministers who served in the genocidal regimes of Lucas Garcia, Rios Montt and Mejia Victores in Guatemala are graduates."
Although not on so large a scale, similar training arrangements have existed for many decades between Australia and Indonesia. Many of the senior officers in the Indonesian military, commanders of the special forces unit Kopassus, and other categories of police and intelligence personnel, have been educated and trained in Australia. And that practice continues.
Related:
SMS was Keelty's first choice: Alleged bomber
Keelty: "It was just days before Australia's embassy was attacked on September 9"?
But you couldn't believe SMS could you? If your life depended on it? What about inviting him to you birthday party? Would you believe answering his own SMS text message? Could you trust him with that?
More:
http://www.adelaide.indymedia.org.au/newswire/display/7333/index.php
The unlikely CRIMINAL
Where cops once stuck to their strengths and creeds, they were now more likely to form alliances of convenience across national borders. Their chameleon ways extended to the means used to commit and conceal their crimes. In short, they were proving far better at adapting to propaganda lying and the chance it offered to cover prime minister Howard the "rodent types" tracks. Innocent, not just those in Australia ran the risk of being nailed to the wall by the corrupt cops that were chasing scapegoats for HoWARd and the US alliance.
More:
http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/81715.php
US: Very superstitious? Writing's on the wall!
"Among them were the homes where British engineer Keneth Bigley and his two US colleagues, Jack Hensley and Eugene 'Jack' Armstrong were executed after being kidnapped in mid-September" But on a truth scale from 1-10 this statement rates at about 1 because of lack of evidence?
More:
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/83249.php
Allegedly the trusted lieutenant of Asia's most wanted demons, Azahari bin Husin and Noordin Mohammad Top.
The Un-Australian Newspaper reported, "In a major breakthrough for the investigation, Rois was caught in the act of planning more bomb attacks on targets in Jakarta, police sources said."
But in an exclusive interview we spoke to a representative of the CIA Mr Tomatoe Sauce and he said that Rois was chosen and then set up for the bombing.
Sauce said, "They will claim Rois was on the run since the September 9 embassy blast? Then police will remind you of the 10 dead so you will not think twice about revenge on this innocent person whose been set-up for the CIA," he said.
"The notion of the suicide bomber is a complete lie meant to attempt to convince the populace that this is the work of "Islamic radicals" that are willing to blow themselves up at a time when there is "no war" in Indonesia."
"Who would blow themselves up when there is no war? Who would give up their life for no struggle? The CIA would! Why? Because the CIA are at war with the world, and they aim to cause terror and slam the Iron fist of fear into the community in the Asian pacific region."
The Un-Australian reported: "Rois the slight man from West Java was rounded up almost two weeks ago. But his capture has remained a tightly kept secret? Police had offered a reward of 500million rupiah, or more than $70,000, for news of him. "
"Hunted by a detachment of crack US-trained anti-terror police, Rois has reportedly evaded arrest on several occasions. The "militant" is thought to have planned the logistics for the embassy attack, and decided on escape routes and hiding places for many of those involved. A senior Indonesian police officer told The Un-Australian that Rois and five others were caught in separate locations in mid-November, but the news of their detention had just begun to emerge"
"Rois was found with three bombs and other explosives, the officer said, and had planned to attack Jakarta over the week-long Idul Fitri holiday last week."
Makes you want to move to Indonesia doesn't it? Sounds like a great place for a holiday? A great place for civil liberties as long as you don't get set-up, framed and become a scapegoat for the golden triangle the US, Indonesia, and Australia!
Labelled and Tortured?
But notice The Un- Australian reporter goes on to say that the "militant", is thought to have planned the logistics for the embassy attack?
Now the man "without a second name" known as Rois has lost his name and is described as the "militant" another alias? Surely that will ensure a fair trial for the accused?
The Un-Australian "The militant, accused of recruiting attack operatives, has been interrogated along with the other captured operatives in a secret location by investigators from anti-terror police Detachment 88."
No doubt about being detached that I can assure you! Question is does Indonesia think all Australians are stupid? It seems they do!
Here we go now!
The Un-Australian: "At least three of the operatives were connected to an explosion in Cicurug, south of Jakarta, when militants accidentally detonated explosives. Four men escaped the scene."
"We captured Rois along with people from Cicurug," the officer said, noting that all were thought to be connected with the embassy blast.
"One of them had a wounded arm from the explosion. They are all now officially suspects."
"Rois used a variety of identity cards and aliases. Sources say he moved rapidly around Java and regularly visited Malaysia. He is believed to be close to both Azahari and Top, the two Malaysians integral to the 2002 Bali blasts that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians, as well as being the leaders in the bomb attack on the Marriott Hotel in Jakarta last year that killed 12 people."
But what about 911 you might as well add that to the melting pot in the grand scheme of things?
The 911 atrocity, and also for the 1012 bombing in Bali, there are three possible truths.
1. Muslim extremists, who hate the West, were responsible, as told in the official truth. In the case of 1012 the official truth has been played out in an Indonesian court, with accused who have admitted their guilt. The latter touch considerably increases the authenticity of the official truth in the eyes of those who don't look too hard.
2. Elements within the US government staged 911 and framed Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. The CIA, as is widely believed in Asia, were behind the Bali bombing. (But how does that explain the admissions of Amrozi and the alleged involvement of Jemaah Islamiyah?
3. Both 911 and 1012 were joint operations between governments, much like the Normandy landings. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is a possible line of citizens inquiry, and quite legitimate. Within this possibility, the US and Saudi governments colluded with regard to 911, and Osama bin Laden was part of the plot. The US had bought his loyalty long ago, in Afghanistan during the Russian occupation. In the case of 1012, the US, Indonesian and Australian governments colluded to spur public reaction and support for the War on Terror.
The second possible truth seems improbable to many people. This is particularly the case in respect of 1012, because there are people like Amrozi who have admitted guilt, and who face the death penalty. Although the third possible truth seems even more fanciful to most, it actually removes the issues around Osama bin Laden and Amrozi. If they were part of a joint operation by elements of the (OWO) Old World Order, they could be expected to convey the impression that they were solely to blame, as Muslim terrorists, and that the (CoW) Coalition of the Willing is, therefore, waging a just war on defenceless people in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries to come.
What needs to be remembered, when grappling with the enormity of the betrayal inherent in both of the second and third of the possible truths, is this. In the War on Witches, up to a million people were cruelly tortured and executed. But, as even a ten year old child could tell you today, just by basic reasoning, there were no witches in medieval Europe. None.
Allegedly Azahari and Top have both been accused of being senior members of Jemaah Islamiah, the terrorist network no one has even heard of in Indonesia until it was thought up by the CoW who blamed the demon, witches for a string of bombings across Indonesia, including the Bali and Marriott blasts. Allegedly it is reported that Rois has been more of a shadowy figure, but police say he played a crucial operational role in the embassy attack?
The Un-Australian: News of Rois's capture was also reported yesterday by Kompas Cyber Media, the website of one of Indonesia's most respected newspapers, which claimed in an unsourced item that Indonesia's national police chief, Dai Bachtiar, would soon report the arrest to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
Kompas Cyber Media most respected news good try but it's still bullshit!
Australian police have assisted Indonesian people in the hunt for the militants accused of the embassy attack, and Rois has been a prime target.
The Inquisition and the War on Witches were instruments used by the faltering Medieval World Order to contain change and maintain their power and control. The "witches" that the Roman church persecuted to further its own ends, were a fiction. The people who died during the terror of the Inquisition were real enough, but the threat they posed was conjured up to preserve an old, and unequal, way of life.
Today, the systems of government and state control are global. There is every reason to expect that government and industrial elites might mount another witch-hunt, to retain power for a little longer. There are already active secessionist movements in Indonesia, and the Australian government, as argued earlier, faces the same potential, as new technologies erode its relevance. While it is not yet possible for ordinary people in Indonesia and Australia to know definitely, that there is collusion between their central governments - step 8 on the Truth Scale from 1-10 - there are sound reasons to examine and discuss this possibility.
Safe Havens For Terrorists
People who rely on the mass media for their information are likely to imagine that terrorists spend their active lives, and their retirement, in caves such as those at Tora Bora in Afghanistan. They are thought of as living a precarious existence in difficult circumstances. However, as John Pilger and others point out, a great many monsters created by the West live comfortably in communities that have no idea who they are. Here are several excerpts from Pilger's book, The New Rulers of the World.
* "In 1998, President Clinton went before the United Nations to speak on terrorism. 'What are our global obligations?' he asked. 'To give terrorists no support, no sanctuary.' Following September 11, 2001, President George W Bush said almost the same words. 'In the war against terrorism,' he said, 'we're going to hunt down these evil-doers wherever they are, no matter how long it takes.'
Strictly speaking, it should not take long, as more terrorists are given 'training, support and sanctuary' in the United States than anywhere on earth. They include mass murderers, torturers, former and future tyrants and assorted international criminals who fit the President's description. This is virtually unknown by the American public."
* "General Prosper Avril, the Haitian dictator, liked to display the bloodied victims of his torture on television. When he was overthrown, he was flown to Florida by the US government. The notorious Haitian death squad leader Emanuel Constant, whose thugs terrorised Haiti, mutilating people with machetes, lives in New York. Armando Fernandez Larios, a member of a Chilean military squad responsible for torture and executions following the overthrow of Salvador Allende in 1973, lives in Miami. Argentine Admiral Jorge Enrico, who was associated with the infamous 'Dirty War' of torture and 'disappearances' in the 1970s, lives in Hawaii. Thiounn Prasith, Pol Pot's henchman and apologist at the United Nations, lives in Mount Vernon, New York."
* "In California, in the eighties, I met four Vietnamese who had been assassins in America's Operation Phoenix; one of them ran a fast food drive-in. He seemed a contented man. What all these people have in common, apart from their history of terrorism, is that they were either working directly for the US government or carrying out the dirty work of American policies. Operation Phoenix, for example, devised, funded and run by the CIA, was responsible for up to 50,000 murders."
* "Much was made of al-Qa'ida's training camps in Afghanistan, the target of American bombers. But these were kindergartens compared with the world's leading university of terrorism at Fort Benning in Georgia. Known until recently as the School of the Americas, it trained some 60,000 Latin American soldiers, policemen, paramilitaries and intelligence agents. Forty per cent of the Cabinet ministers who served in the genocidal regimes of Lucas Garcia, Rios Montt and Mejia Victores in Guatemala are graduates."
Although not on so large a scale, similar training arrangements have existed for many decades between Australia and Indonesia. Many of the senior officers in the Indonesian military, commanders of the special forces unit Kopassus, and other categories of police and intelligence personnel, have been educated and trained in Australia. And that practice continues.
Related:
SMS was Keelty's first choice: Alleged bomber
Keelty: "It was just days before Australia's embassy was attacked on September 9"?
But you couldn't believe SMS could you? If your life depended on it? What about inviting him to you birthday party? Would you believe answering his own SMS text message? Could you trust him with that?
More:
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The unlikely CRIMINAL
Where cops once stuck to their strengths and creeds, they were now more likely to form alliances of convenience across national borders. Their chameleon ways extended to the means used to commit and conceal their crimes. In short, they were proving far better at adapting to propaganda lying and the chance it offered to cover prime minister Howard the "rodent types" tracks. Innocent, not just those in Australia ran the risk of being nailed to the wall by the corrupt cops that were chasing scapegoats for HoWARd and the US alliance.
More:
![](/img/extlink.gif)
US: Very superstitious? Writing's on the wall!
"Among them were the homes where British engineer Keneth Bigley and his two US colleagues, Jack Hensley and Eugene 'Jack' Armstrong were executed after being kidnapped in mid-September" But on a truth scale from 1-10 this statement rates at about 1 because of lack of evidence?
More:
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