Last night on Newsnight , Gavin Essler & MP Vaz tried to make a joke out of this...


but the point of this action is to have some proof in the history books
that some believe democracy is a dead duck in UK PLC

even if it bombs
this will be achieved...

I salute you

So what will happen ? Yes in theory there is a process to remove a sitting Prime Minister using this legislation, however what will then happen.

If Blair goes there will have to be a General Election, the Conservatives currently lead in the poles with the UKIP a credible risk to the Lib Dems as the third party. Howard will become PM. Labour will be out of power for ten years.

10 years? Next time Labour are put out of power they can kiss goodbye at least 50.

They f..k it every time, big time. They do. You know they do. They're doing it now.

I disagree with the idea that if Labour loses power it will be out for many years. With UK politics becoming closer to the US model of two parties very close in their views and policies they can probably be back by the time of the next election.

Labour under Blair finaly got the message that the Tories had been hoping they wouldn't realise for years - The UK people will never elect a Socialist government, because of this they now represent the standard middle of the road message of European politics where presentation is everything. The only way for the Left to win real power is to do what we did in Liverpool and the old days of the GLC. Work in the background and take power after a moderate has been elected.

if blair goes this will give the anti-war movement a big boost and make bush even more isolated. however i doubt if the spinless labour mps would vote against him.

however if blair was put in the dock it would give the families who are the victims of his war a bit of pay back.

blair will already go down in history as the most dishonest PM we ever had in the last 150 years.

anyone who oppose this war should welcome this impeachment, remeber when clinton was impeached ,it made internatiional news, of course this is more of a serious crime and i woulld be in favour of him being publicly executed.

labour=conservative=neo liberalism

lets build the alternative and build on the success of RESPECT

"lets build the alternative and build on the success of RESPECT"

eerrrr what "success" would that be then ?

Actually Keith Vaz on Newsnight was pathetic. Remember its not so long since he was embroiled in some scandal that brought him close to being forced out. But Blair and co stood by him and now he is grovellingly standing by them. It was nasty obsequious viewing.

As the Hutton report was being drafted [whitewashed]
i put together a page on the e-mails that were released...

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I suggest you look into the United States Defense Department's Central MASINT Organization and it's role in collecting and analyzing weapons intelligence in Iraq.

On February 9, 1993 Department of Defense Directive 5105.58 created an intelligence office for the purpose of locating, characterizing and tracking Nuclear, Biological, Chemical, Smart Weapons and Conventional Weapons and associated facilities in Iraq and throughout the world through the use of spaceborn and airborne MASINT ( Measurement and Signature Intelligence) remote sensing technologies. This office is now known as the Central MASINT Oragnization.

In 1994 the CMO published a book with the provocative title "CENTRAL MASINT ORGANIZATION BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL WARFARE INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION STRATEGIES BRIEFING" yet it has never been mentioned in any news media coverage of such weapons intelligence collection in Iraq. Why not? It certainly seems relevant.

In 1996 the House Intelligence Committee designated the CMO as the primary source of, and supreme authority on, Weapons of Mass Destruction intelligence.

It was also considered to be the agency most critical to the survival of the United States of America as a nation in the 21st century.

In 1996 the CMO created the Covered Lantern real time hyperspectral remote weapons detection system that can be deployed on unmanned aircraft.

In Febuary of 2001 FBI agent Robert Hanssen was arrested in the most catastrophic espionage case in American history. What made Hanssen's spying so damaging was that he sold secret CMO documents to the Russians. At the time the news media widely reported that the CMO could detect and track nuclear, biological and chemical weapons anywhere in the world.

Yet two years later, as we prepared for war with Iraq, the same news organizations apparently developed selective amnesia and completely forgot about the CMO and it's amazing remote weapons detection technologies.

In all the months we have been hearding endless debates about the claims that Iraq possessed and deployed weapons of mass destruction the news media, including journalists who reported the Robert Hanssen story, have never asked the Bush administration if the CMO confirmed, or ruled out, to a scientific certainty that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. The Bush administration itself, in all it's endless talk about weapons of mass destruction, has never once mentioned the existence of the CMO even though it plans to spend one hundred and forty-four billion dollars over the next four years for new tactical remote sensing technologies to enable the CMO and the Air Force's National Air Intelligence Center to conduct real time detection , analysis and tracking of individual weapons anywhere on the face of the earth as part of Rumsfeld's "military transformation" program that includes the Department of Defense HYPERSPECTRAL IMAGE EXPLOITATION initiative.

Is it possible that President Bush and Tony Blair deliberately ignored exculpatory CMO data that inconveniently proved that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction? Did Iraq actually destroy it's old, and militarily useless, WMD stockpile as they claimed?

After all we never saId WE did not have proof they did, just that THEY did not provide documentation. MASINT would easily detect a weapons incinerator and it's 1500 degree plus temperatures anywhere in Iraq and could easily analyze the smoke to see exactly was was burned there and how much. The no fly zones place all of Iraq within easy reach of MASINT sensors on US remote sensing aircraft, not to mention the CMO's Covered Lantern unmanned aircraft designed to locate concealed and camoflaged weapons .

Why else would the Bush adminstration suppress the CMO's remote sensor "weapons inspections" intelligence?

Why was CMO intelligence never made available to United Nations Weapons Inspectors who distracted the news media on the ground in Iraq for years?

Does the news media censor all references to the CMO or are they just ignorant of it?

Why does the news media think the CIA and NSA are the ultimate source of "WMD intelligence" when the CMO reports to Donald Rumsfeld, not George Tenet or Condolezza Rice?

Both CIA and NSA have no MASINT capability of their own.

Why has the CMO been excluded from all discussions about Iraq and why is it virtually unknown to the public when it ought to be at the very center of the discussion on weapons of mass destruction and pre-emptive warfare?

With increasing violence in Iraq and no traces of WMDs yet found don't the people of America and Great Britain have a right to know the plain truth about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction or lack thereof?

The CMO is, according to the Congress of the United States, the ultimate authority on weapons of mass destruction intelligence. The budget for CMO technology over the past ten years has been vastly larger than the budget of the United Nations Weapons Inspections in Iraq.

Yet not one journalist has ever asked the obvious question.

What does the CMO know about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?

XXX X Pasadena, CA USA for more on MASINT see:
 http://www.wardrobe.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/murder_inc/masint.html

Blair and his cabinet are all a bunch of lying war criminals and, never mind impeachment, require due justice
But then, every member of parliament who's stayed in his or her party, who has failed to holler out against the warmongering and genocide, perfectly self-evident since,- oh- lets say September 01 - are perfectly complicit in the acts of criminality
These acting now are offering something in the way of redemption - funnily enough it's pleasing to see wankboy Boris in there, though purely for the purpose of his own agenda to be sure
Never mind the consequences - the lack of WMDs in Iraq fatally undermined Blair anyway - if he was intended to stay they'd have been there - rest assured

you may not know but RESPECT has won its first council seat in tower hamlets in july despite the party being only 6 months old.

it gain 12.5% in leicester bye election. no other non-stream party since 1979 (apart from SDP) has gained anything near figure in a bye election. the greens managed in 1989 to get 10%, the BNP in 2002 got 7% check the facts.


if that not a success i dont know what is.

it will be interesting to see the results of the hartlepool by election where RESPECT is standing. this is mainly a white working class area.