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Alex Jones & Jeff Rense- Shame on you...

victor ace | 16.06.2004 02:00

blimey here it is...

shameful bullshit
using several truths to hide misdirection using emotive string pulling...
rfid rfid NWO NWO global elite [truth]
border control - mexicans destroying sovereignty etc etc [bullshit]

SHOCKER: Both seem to think ALL foreigners are spies! listen here -

mms://207.36.181.111/rense/rense05-24-04.wma

to two people who have been brainwashed by rear of the police state...

into mis-trust because of Foreigners taking JOBS!!! They are misdirecting us...
they seem to contradict themselves several times...



my views:
We are all foreigners...to each other...until we try. There are no countries, only people on land. The ideology of love of country and sovereignty is semantic mind control enforced by a global CARTEL

victor ace

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16.06.2004 14:20

Why We Need Martial Law ...by John kamanski
 http://www.rense.com/general53/ggyr.htm

John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a collection of his Internet essays published on hundreds of websites around the world. In addition, he has more recently written "The Day America Died: Why You Shouldn't Believe the Official Story of What Happened on September 11, 2001," a 48-booklet written for those who still believe the government's version of that say day. A second collection of his essays, titled "The Perfect Enemy," will be published later this summer. For more information, or to make a badly needed contribution to his work, please visit  http://www.johnkaminski.com/





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Our government is out of control. The elections are rigged. The Congress is completely bought off. The White House administration is a gang of criminals who are stealing the nation blind. There is no proper accountability from any department of government. And the United States is conducting two major wars, irresponsibly squandering the lives of our young people, for reasons that everyone in the world knows are lies.

Be clear about this: no government official, nor any major media outlet, is objecting to two wars the United States is conducting that everyone knows the reasons for are lies. Tens of thousands of people have been killed for lies, and no one in a position of public responsibility is condemning it.

America has become a nation of monstrously perverted mass murderers. And if you're an American and are not condemning it, then you are complicit in it. You're supporting needless mass murder, you pig!

People are being jailed for no reason, illegally tortured while in custody and deprived of due process. Innocent families around the world are being humiliated and killed for no legitimate reason. Our law enforcement apparatus - corrupt courts and cops - are failing to stop obvious crimes committed by the very rich, and assaulting ordinary citizens trying in a lawful manner to protest these injustices.

I repeat, rich corporations are allowed to commit crimes, and ordinary people are being put in jail for committing no crime.

Legitimate law enforcement in the United States has completely broken down. The biggest criminal in the country right now is John Ashcroft, the top man in America's law enforcement hierarchy, who is guilty of thousands of counts of obstruction of justice by failing to investigate and prosecute a titanic list of crimes committed by those who gave him his job.

The Supreme Court, the highest law panel in the land, assisted in a coup d'etat in 2000 by failing to investigate thousands of people who were illegally prevented from voting that changed the outcome of the election.

The upcoming election promises no relief from the murderous tyranny that now grips Washington. Both candidates are privileged children of the rich who are members of a satanic fraternity at Yale University and won't talk about their perverted rituals. No matter who is elected, America's future is more wars, more deaths, more destruction.

An irrational president and his demonic accomplices keep talking about a new terror attack they are expecting any day. Legitimate researchers have pointed out the worldwide terror threat known as al-Qaeda is actually a deceptive construction of the U.S. CIA and Israel's Mossad.

The terror attacks that threaten us are actually coordinated by Washington and Tel Aviv. There exists legitimate evidence that the bombings in New York, Madrid, Bali, Istanbul, Yemen and elsewhere were actually the work of CIA/Mossad operatives, as are the murders of thousands of innocent people in Iraq. The anthrax murder investigation was stopped when the trail led back to the White House.

In 2001, terror attacks by this same organization created by White House speechwriters and CIA recruiters killed more than 3,000 Americans in New York and Washington. The government had steadfastly impeded an investigation of the events of 9/11, and the commission it has empaneled to conduct a probe has consistently failed to address the major questions asked by thousands of researchers around the world.

Specifically, billions of dollars were made in profits from insider trading in the days before 9/11. The FBI has investigated and said there was nothing suspicious about these profits. How the American people can accept this blatant lie is a preposterous example of the soporific stupor that has engulfed the U.S. populace. The identity of the perpetrators of the treasonous attacks of 9/11 is known by those investors, yet the government refuses to pursue those criminals.

Plentiful photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony exists that the World Trade Center was brought down by explosions. The evidence was carted off and disposed of without an adequate investigation. The Air Force failed to defend the nation against the air attacks on 9/11. The people in charge of our air defenses were promoted, because they were complicit in the crime of the century.

The mainstream media has for years failed to report on crimes by the federal government. It has failed to report that the ingredients of major soft drinks puts holes in your brain with extended use. Mainstream media conducted a powwow after the last election to review the voting process, concluded the election had been stolen, but then decided to cover up the crime.

Most people agree that Senator Paul Wellstone was murdered after an argument with Vice President Dick Cheney. There was no real investigation. A woman in Texas who filed a lawsuit against the president for rape and torture was found shot to death. It was ruled a suicide. No one is investigating. Bush reportedly dated the woman in high school and speculation is that he was using the woman as his sex slave because he is above the law.

Virtually all members of the Congress, shortly after 9/11, voted to pass legislation that nullified most of the basic protections in the Constitution for the American people. Few Americans protested. Additional legislation has further eroded the rights of Americans.

The right to privacy in America has all but disappeared. The government operation to deprive Americans of their privacy, once guaranteed by the Constitution, was headed by a known felon, who lied to Congress and was convicted for it during the reign of Ronald Reagan.

American citizens are being infected with unknown diseases by strange practices called chemtrails that appears in our skies. Doctors in league with evil pharmaceutical companies are forcing mind-numbing drugs on both children and adults, and after paying off politicians are granted legal immunity from mistakes they may make, from outright poisons they choose to prescribe.

The American government is criminal enterprise, and American law enforcement is complicit in the crime. The only way to stop the continuing crime spree is by a military takeover and a declaration of martial law. Hundreds of cops, attorneys and judges need to be in jail.

We need a new government, one that sees to the needs of people, not to the needs of bankers and corporations.

Ordinary citizens might be worried about such a move, but they shouldn't be. The purpose of this martial law situation would not be to curtail American liberty, but to restore it.

The thrust of a military takeover should be directed at the people committing the crimes, primarily government officials, executives of the petroleum and pharmaceutical industries, and bankers and stock traders. All officials of the Federal Reserve Board, Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission should be immediately jailed for future interrogations concerning their crimes against humanity.

And investigation needs to be conducted into the FBI and CIA for their creation of the terror apparatus known as al-Qaeda, which has been blamed for innumerable instances of terror around the world. A good place to start would be the Philippines, where American agents have fomented revolution against that government and exported terrorist double agents around the world as part of a devious plan to increase profits for American defense contractors.

The entire Congress needs to be indicted for treason, simply for their vote on the Patriot Act, but for plenty of other corrupt actions as well.

The entire Bush administration, and many officials from previous presidential adminstrations, need to be arrested for corruption for taking bribes from corporations and then promptly passing laws advantageous to those corporations.

Thousands of investment bankers, securities dealers, and stock traders need to be arrested for theft. Kenneth Lay, George Bush's top contributor, needs to be in jail immediately for his theft of a billion dollars from the people of California.

In addition, the military needs to take an immediate hard look at Israel, whose agents have penetrated virtually all aspects of the operation of the American government and American society as well. Next to the United States, Israel is the greatest threat to peace in the world, as it has already admitted it has missiles aimed at all the capitals of Europe, and it continues to conduct its heartless genocide against the hapless Palestinian people.

Ordinary people should not be affected at all by martial law. The military should leave them and their families alone. Ordinary Americans have not broken the law, but have been the victims of governmental leaders who have.

First of all, the military needs to bring as many troops home as possible, immediately. Arrangements can be made with other grateful countries to stem the needless bleeding America has caused in so many places around the world. Our continuing commitment to Iraq should not be to fatten the coffers of corporations, but to apologize to the Iraqi people that Americans have committed in the name of so-called democracy.

The military needs to investigate virtually every law enforcement operation in America. Every town, city, county and state in America is afflicted by criminal behavior in its law enforcement and court apparatus.

And first and foremost, as a new government of the United States is reconstituted in a democratic way guided by the principles of the Constitution, America needs to regain control of its money supply from the international bankers who control the world. Most of those international bankers need to be in jail, too, in orange jumpsuits at Guantanamo alongside the whole Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Myers, Rice, Perle, Wolfowitz, Libby, Scalia, Rehnquist, Clarence Thomas, Tenet, Freeh, and all those other corrupt law enforcement officials and judges, corporate presidents, and corrupt Congressmen.

I know, the prospect of a military takeover is scary. But consider the choice: do you want men in control who are sworn to defend the Constitution, as is the military, or those who are sworn to make money for the super-rich, as are both Bush and Kerry and practically anybody else who runs for office.

Consider what will happen is this DOESN'T happen. It's really no exaggeration to say we likely are looking at the end of the world as we know it. At the very least, we are headed toward a slave society in which many Americans will starve to death if Bush and Kerry are allowed to continue on their merry way.

In addition, there is another important reason for a military takeover, and that is to redeploy our forces to defend our country, rather than to misuse and abuse them by plundering innocent nations for the criminal corporations who control so many of our politicians.

I really trust our people in uniform, because I really am an American. And as an American, I am terribly ashamed of my country for the horrific things it has done, both to people around the world and its own citizens. It's the criminals in Washington who have no allegiance to any country who have ordered our military to do all those bad things. The Bush family and their criminal sidekicks are not really Americans, they're murderous crooks who lie about everything and whose only allegiance is to their own wallets, their own sexual perversions, their own sick visions of the world which decent people want no part of.

Martial law now. Military tribunals for Bush, Cheney and the rest of those sick sociopaths.

It's the only way we're ever going to find peace again. And the only way we're really ever going to be able to defend our country.

Otherwise, it's curtains for everyone.

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my views:

Accepting martial law????

in order to properly defend the country???

more titbits of truth: The end of civil rights in america

more lies: trust the military /[industrial complex]

this reminds me of Michael Moores 'anything but Bush' rant...

People should not be forced to accept 'anything other than'...

Tyranny by one name doesn't make tyranny of another any nicer looking...

How about educating ourselves into being involved in an ever changing world
via forums and debate...in the running of our own lives, instead of
indoctrinating people to obey a system of beaurocracy designed to control:
dehumanizing... stigmatizing ...a block to useful viable solutions to real problems.









victor ace


911 : Fox News praises Moore's F911 and Booker Elementary Footage

16.06.2004 14:43

from INN news:
 http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=431



'Fahrenheit 9/11' Gets Standing Ovation

FOX News -Tuesday, June 15, 2004
 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122680,00.html


The crowd that gave Michael Moore's controversial "Fahrenheit 9/11" documentary a standing ovation last night at the Ziegfeld Theater premiere certainly didn't have to be encouraged to show their appreciation. From liberal radio host/writer Al Franken to actor/director Tim Robbins, Moore was in his element.

But once "F9/11" gets to audiences beyond screenings, it won't be dependent on celebrities for approbation. It turns out to be a really brilliant piece of work, and a film that members of all political parties should see without fail.
As much as some might try to marginalize this film as a screed against President George Bush, "F9/11" — as we saw last night — is a tribute to patriotism, to the American sense of duty — and at the same time a indictment of stupidity and avarice...

...First, I know you want to know who came to the Ziegfeld, so here is a partial list:

Besides Franken and Robbins, Al Sharpton, Mike Myers, Tony Bennett, Glenn Close, Gretchen Mol (newly married over the weekend to director Todd Williams), Lori Singer, Tony Kushner, "Angela's Ashes" author Frank McCourt, Jill Krementz and Kurt Vonnegut, Lauren Bacall (chatting up a fully refurbished Lauren Hutton), Richard Gere, John McEnroe and Patti Smythe, former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke, Carson Daly, NBC's Jeff Zucker, a very pregnant Rory Kennedy, playwright Israel Horovitz, Macaulay Culkin, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Kyra Sedgwick, Linda Evangelista, Ed Bradley, Tom and Meredith Brokaw, director Barry Levinson, NBC anchor Brian Williams, Vernon Jordan, Eva Mendes, Sandra Bernhard and the always humorous Joy Behar.

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my views:

wow 911 goes celebrity:

In Farenheit 911 Moore apparently uses the Saudi flights to ask the question:

'Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia?'

wouldn't this be music to the NEOCONs ears...?

Surely ...Nobody should be attacking anyone!!!

victor ace


out in the open

17.06.2004 12:24

i'm coming clean on thisin the interest of debate


the following from an e-mail i just sent

I just listened to a radio show with Jeff rense and Alex jones
mms://207.36.181.111/rense/rense05-24-04.wma

the anti immigrant rhetoric and hypocracy of the
things they were saying made me so angry
that i decided to post something on indymedia:
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/06/293504.html

the next day i received a threatening e- mail

interestingly i posted the above as Victor ace
not as captain wardrobe or Cobbin Paul
names easily associated with my website

someone would have to be tracking my ISP

co-incidence? paranoia?

also

The Aussie bloke prank:
 http://www.weatherquestions.com/Aussie-bloke-end-of-world.htm
 http://www.wardrobe.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/murder_inc/blindskies.html
[various messages were posted on forums warning of an
impending asteriod that will wipe out huge areas of the earth]

On Rense -John Kaminski suggested it was a hoax...

I wrote to John agreeing with him and also suggesting
it might be a government drill / psyops / memetic experiment

and detailed the strange career of one John B Alexander-
 http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=John+B+Alexander
Non-lethal weapons / advisor to / NLP teacher / computer - console war-battle games design consultant
and member of National institute of discovery science
 http://www.nidsci.org/bios/alexander.php

an organisation which is involved in investigating ufo abduction / mothman / saucers etc


my question to John Kaminski was
Is this project a memetic steering device?

viral marketing?

a myth propulsion / distraction exercise...?
a cover up of government exercises involving
experiments on 'abductees'?...

he wrote back with an attachment:
that basically said [about the aussie bloke hoax] :

As I told Cindy, tell those Monitors to cram it. As I told Rense, this sounds like a Jewish thing, playing with people's lives just to amuse themselves. jk


I wrote back in disbelief asking him ...why just Jewish people?

i recieved no reply from either Jeff rense or kaminski



then after listening to the Alex Jones / Rense program
i checked other guests

John B Alexander appeared

05-05-04
mms://207.36.181.111/rense/rense05-05-04.wma

I know Rense & Jones gives a lot of exposure to the 911 cause
and i still visit the Rense & Infowars website on a regular basis

and of course i don't believe in censorship...
forcing veiws on people

but...I think they are jokers / distraction artists
who use legitimate issues to pull the 'emotional patriot strings'
in order to justify border paranoia and a fascistic fear of foreigners
[IE xenophopia]

one minute they talk of Muslims being detained then they switch real quickly to
how there is no border security !!! and how Mexicans are 'taking over'

[I think mexicans were there first by a few thousand years!!!]


John kaminski has since published this:
Why We Need Martial Law ...
 http://www.rense.com/general53/ggyr.htm


this is unbelievable...!

anyway
i'm not trying to cause trouble...
or stop you / put you off using these sites

just wanted to let you know...

I want to be careful and be aware
of where info comes from...
and why it is, where it is,
when it is!!!

because conspiracy is becoming an industry
and the rumour mill is becoming
a tool for viral marketing

[note: shortly after the Nick Berg beheading
Alex Jones made prison Planet TV a pay to access site]

Captain Wardrobe