BBC misreports the facts: the Fire dispute
capt wardrobe | 24.05.2004 22:52
BBC confuses the issues
"The row, over training on new equipment during overtime "stand down" time, has led to unofficial industrial action in several parts of the country. A union source told BBC News he feared employers wanted to scrap the rest periods taken between emergency call-outs in the early hours. "
[snip]
"union sources say they believe employers wish to park vehicles in lay-bys overnight and plan to close fire stations overnight..."
"Union members and employers have locked horns over the delayed 3.5% pay rise agreed last summer and due to be implemented last November. BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3741235.stm
[*my notes follow]
*overtime and stand down time are not the same thing:
overtime is time worked after the official ending of a shift
Stand down time is some of the hours during the night shift
when firefighter are allowed to rest between emergency call-outs
and other essential work. This time is used by some to study for promotional exams or, to carry out other work.
*the deal agreed in 2002 was the outcome of a strike and long negotiations
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"...if an incident like this one were to actually happen in the centre of London tomorrow, hundreds if not thousands of people would die through lack of proper equipment being available to access the affected area and bring people out in order for them to be taken to hospitals for urgent treatment. The Systems tested in the exercise no doubt worked to perfection AFTER the casualties had been brought to the surface, but the fact remains that with the gear we have at the moment, they would never be able to be brought to the surface for the transportation to hospital and further treatment to take place.
The armed police were there to shoot people if necessary who will not stay within the cordoned off area."
http://www.global-elite.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=152&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
"The row, over training on new equipment during overtime "stand down" time, has led to unofficial industrial action in several parts of the country. A union source told BBC News he feared employers wanted to scrap the rest periods taken between emergency call-outs in the early hours. "
[snip]
"union sources say they believe employers wish to park vehicles in lay-bys overnight and plan to close fire stations overnight..."
"Union members and employers have locked horns over the delayed 3.5% pay rise agreed last summer and due to be implemented last November. BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3741235.stm [*my notes follow]
*overtime and stand down time are not the same thing:
overtime is time worked after the official ending of a shift
Stand down time is some of the hours during the night shift
when firefighter are allowed to rest between emergency call-outs
and other essential work. This time is used by some to study for promotional exams or, to carry out other work.
*the deal agreed in 2002 was the outcome of a strike and long negotiations
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"...if an incident like this one were to actually happen in the centre of London tomorrow, hundreds if not thousands of people would die through lack of proper equipment being available to access the affected area and bring people out in order for them to be taken to hospitals for urgent treatment. The Systems tested in the exercise no doubt worked to perfection AFTER the casualties had been brought to the surface, but the fact remains that with the gear we have at the moment, they would never be able to be brought to the surface for the transportation to hospital and further treatment to take place.
The armed police were there to shoot people if necessary who will not stay within the cordoned off area."
http://www.global-elite.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=152&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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Media Whores Networking with Govenment
25.05.2004 12:45
geezer
is it all hype anyway?
25.05.2004 17:50
There was a plan in place to contain eveyone in the chamber and decontaminate them one by one. It was, as shown on TV, completely ignored.
Meanwhile, these same people expect the emergency services (and the army and so on) to deal with whatever arises - in the case of the first people on scene, probably getting injured or killed in the process.
The plans for the wider public are revealed by some of the training exercises that have happened in the last year where informing and evacuating locals has been a long way down the task list. (I'm not 'in the know' here - emergency planners have been quoted in the papers)
And while I'm ranting - remember a news story recently about how the govt doesn't want to put evacuation route signs on London's roads? Well just think what would happen if an area was contaminated with somthing nasty so everyone was evacuated - the nasty gets spread wherever the people go. There are scenarios where everyone inside the M25 gets quarantined.
Assuming the whole show is not just a fake to get us to accept ID cards.
bobby